This kind of thing was toyed with back in the early 80’s. Some people think Marines that are at least on their second enlistment are better killers. Marine Corps Times reports:
Older. Wiser. More seasoned. Deadlier.
There’s a controversial idea taking root at the Pentagon: That Marines should wait an enlistment before joining the infantry, coming into traditional rifle squads only after getting some experience in another career field. It would be a profound change that would make Marine infantry units older, but potentially stacked with additional skill sets.
It would also further blur the line between conventional infantry Marine and special operator, as they’d be plucked from the same pool.
I got plucked from the pool…we just worded it a bit different.
Whether the 18-year-old grunt Marine model can continue to compete on the future battlefield is a question being scrutinized at the top levels of the Defense Department and among top officials close to Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, who is himself a former Marine infantry commander.
One such man leading the charge is a retired general who chairs Mattis’ Pentagon task force focused on boosting lethality of grunts.
“The optimal age for a close-combat soldier, the balance is … mid to late 20s,” retired Army Maj. Gen. Robert Scales told Marine Corps Times.
That’s probably about right, I started at 17. Most are done with their first marriage by their second enlistment, their pay goes out in allotments and the Driftwood has them on the banned list, death doesn’t scare them anymore. Some of us even have a stripe or two left.
Today’s grunts have increasingly taken up the mantle of special operations missions where small detachments of Marines have deployed to advise and train foreign military units in remote and hostile environments — missions that require mature operators and problem solvers.
Oh, they mean like Marines have always been doing. I can tell them from experience, maturity comes on pretty fast when you’re on the chopper flying into a country you can not pronounce in the middle of the night.
“Significant focus is being placed on the human dimension,” Marine spokeswoman Capt. Karoline Foote told Marine Corps Times. “We are evaluating and implementing improvements in how we recruit, train and retain our infantry Marines.”
Ahh, I have read that kind of stuff before. It’s one of those “say nothing in 20 words or more” things.
“The way JSOC [Joint Special Operations Command] operates is a telling point,” he explained.
Aaaaaaand there we have it. People who have no idea what an EGA is, trying to dictate the manner in which Marines are to kill people.
One option the Corps could consider is saving a large portion of infantry slots for a second enlistment. A benefit to this would be the added experience and skill sets carried over by Marines hailing from other support billets and functions into ground combat units.
Infantry squads could potentially be stacked with Marines with experience in intelligence, electronic warfare, engineering or communications.
WTF? Ok, so I have to prance up to a platoon with Sgt (electronic warfare) and tell every one he is the skulling coach. Get the F*** outta here with that s***. The average 19 year old LCpl will break his ass. All I am trying to say is Combat Arms Marines can be a bit brutal…age got nuttin to do with it.
“With 16 years of infantry background, I learned 80 percent of my ground pounding in my first four years,” one Marine combat instructor told Marine Corps Times. “And as the war has kind of slipped away from us, the majority of the seasoned fighters have moved on because with no war they feel cheated.”
Bingo, all we are asking is Give War a Chance. People, we have to keep our heads about us until this peace craze blows over. They go on and on but you will have to follow the link because they start quoting General Neller and it gives me gas. I have led Marines into the unknown, never questioned the maturity of a singly one of them.












