Hillary Clinton is arguing that had it not been for the fact that President Trump was president, he would’ve been indicted for obstruction of justice. This coming from the same person who got away with doing something that would’ve landed us in hot water.
She’s insinuating that the Mueller Report made it clear that this would’ve been President Trump’s fate. From CNN:
Clinton pointed to the obstruction section of the redacted Mueller report released last week, saying it “could not be clearer” in compelling Congress to act.
“Basically what I thought it was saying is, ‘Look, we think he obstructed justice — here are 11 examples of why we think he obstructed justice, but we’re under the control of the Justice Department, and their rule is you can’t indict,’ ” she said.
“But we do have checks and balance in America, and there is this thing called the Congress,” Clinton continued. “I mean you could not be more explicit than, ‘Please, look at this. You may look at it and conclude that it doesn’t rise to an impeachable offense — that’s your job — but I’m giving this to you.'”
Her talk about Congress’s oversight of the President’s actions here is based on the report. The Mueller Report references constitutional procedures related to when Congress takes actions related to the President’s action. This part of the report doesn’t argue that President Trump committed obstruction to justice. It simply stated the procedures that the constitution lays out.
From the Mueller Report:
The anticipated effect of removing the FBI director, however, would not necessarily be to prevent or impede the FBI from continuing its investigation. As a general matter, FBI investigations run under the operational direction of FBI personnel levels below the FBI director. Bannon made a similar point when he told the President that he could fire the FBI director, but could not fire the FBI. The White House issued a press statement the day after Comey was fired that said, “The investigation would have always continued, and obviously, the termination of Comey would not have ended it.” In addition, in his May 11 interview with Lester Holt, the President stated that he understood when he made the decision to fire Comey that the action might prolong the investigation.
There was insufficient evidence to support an obstruction to justice conclusion. This can’t be said with regards to Hillary’s actions regarding emails that should’ve stayed within the proper channels. Why all the destruction on her part? Unlike the president’s case, Hillary’s case has smoke rising from it.
You can read more here.
I think we all know if she had won no one would be talking about Trump at all, never mind prosecuting him for anything. He would have disappeared faster than a Twinkie at fat camp from the public view.
Then he’d just go back to being Trump the developer and donating to both parties to keep his business moving forward.
We damn sure know she wasn’t going to be prosecuted had she won for any of the things that were in her past or present.
The satisfaction for me is knowing that none of the contenders for president on her side of the aisle wants her endorsement. She is now the kiss of death to Democrats. That is perfect poetic justice.
Almost choked on my eggs when read Cankles McPansuit’s take on this…really? It goes to show you how she’s out of touch with reality. I’m sure she doesn’t think her political operatives working within the high levels of government, and the fact she probably has a few unnamed suicide notes just floating around waiting to be used had any bearing on her case. Efff her and her whole party?
Signed 50+ year old Christian, white, veteran with 2 college degrees Deplorable.
She’s not out of touch. Far from it. She knows full well at least 45 percent of the country will believe her without question no matter how blatant the bullshit she spreads.
She’s as out of touch as Judge Napolitano, senior judicial analyst of Fox News, not to mention various prosecutors. Here’s a paragraph from Napolitano’s op-ed the other day:
Article: https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/judge-andrew-napolitano-did-president-trump-obstruct-justice
It seems quite clear that the choice not to indict President Trump is because he’s the President. So much as it pains me to say, Clinton is actually correct on something for a change. This doesn’t mean she’s not a huge hypocrit who has avoided prosecution due to her own position, it just means she’s right in this specific case.
But LC it was a bullshit aka insurance policy probe to begin with
Two the fact that he made it public is even more then these
Turds would have even allowed
It pains me to say this but why is she still walking free
And two why are former Obama people still waking free
Instead of being investigated
This is the biggest reason why I don’t like Trump
He’s a moron but he has more ethics then anyone
On the left that I’ve been tracking
I also understand after reading the whole report
It reads like a piece of DNC Garbage
Maybe Barr will turn the tables here
Soon because I understand one of these fruit cakes
On the left could be leading our country in November of 2020
Andrew Napolitano: Mueller laid out at least a half-dozen crimes of obstruction committed by Trump
False. Mueller clearly indicated what would constitute obstruction. What I quoted above presents an argument as to why one can’t validly say that the President engaged in obstruction. Andrew Napolitano brought up an example of someone tackling someone else to prevent him from giving testimony. Yes, that example would be obstruction. However, that doesn’t apply in this case.
Andrew Napolitano should have come up with an analogy that comes closer to what is going on. In this case, causing the removal of the head judge, who assigned the trial judge to the case where the testimony is needed. This wouldn’t necessarily constitute obstruction to justice, as described in the report, as causing the head judge’s removal wouldn’t exactly stop the trial judge, and the trial, from continuing.
This analogy comes closer to what the Mueller Report argued. Firing people at levels above the investigation would not have stopped the investigation. Hence, not necessarily obstruction.
I downloaded the redacted Mueller report soon after it was made available. I’ve been going through it since. Based on what I read, there is clearly insufficient evidence, or information, to reach the conclusion that President Trump “obstructed”. It clearly states that the Trump campaign didn’t knowingly or willingly collude. Where there was interaction between a Russian, and the campaign, the campaign was under the impression that they were dealing with an American.
Judge Jeanine Pirro, unlike Andrew Napolitano, nailed this topic with an accurate explanation of what was going on.
Andrew Napolitano: — from asking former Deputy National Security Adviser K.T. McFarland to write an untruthful letter about the reason for Flynn’s chat with Kislyak, to asking
From the Mueller report:
“The next day, the President asked Priebus to have McFarland draft an internal email that would confirm that the President did not direct Flynn to call the Russian Ambassador about sanctions. Priebus said he told the President he would only direct McFarland to write such a letter if she were comfortable with it. Priebus called McFarland into his office to convey the President’s request that she memorialize in writing that the President did not direct Flynn to talk to Kislyak.” — Mueller Report
You don’t “confirm” or “memorialize” something that didn’t happen. “Fabrication”, or something similar to it, would be more applicable. In this case, you confirm or memorialize something that’s fact… Something that President Trump wanted in writing.
“Finally, the President’s efforts to have McFarland write an internal email denying that the President had directed Flynn to discuss sanctions with Kislyak highlights the President’s concern about being associated with Flynn’s conduct. The evidence does not establish that the President was trying to have McFarland lie. The President’s request, however, was sufficiently irregular that McFarland-who did not know the full extent of Flynn’s communications with the President and thus could not make the representation the President wanted-felt the need to draft an internal memorandum documenting the President’s request, and Eisenberg was concerned that the request would look like a quid pro quo in exchange for an ambassadorship.” — Mueller Report
President Trump knew that people were going after him, and would use anything they could get their hands on to do so. President Trump did not break a law, or commit obstruction. He was simply trying to get something he knew was the case put in writing. She didn’t draft that correspondence on the account that she was not privy to the entire conversation that the president had with the affected person. This has nothing to do with her “refusing” to write something that “wasn’t the case”.
Andrew Napolitano: Corey Lewandowski and then-former White House Counse lDon McGahn to fire Mueller and McGahn to lie about it,
What the Mueller Report says:
“On June 19, 2017, the President met one-on-one in the Oval Office with his former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, a trusted advisor outside the government, and dictated a message for Lewandowski to deliver to Sessions. The message said that Sessions should publicly announce that, notwithstanding his recusal from the Russia investigation, the investigation was “very unfair” to the President, the President had done nothing wrong, and Sessions planned to meet with the Special Counsel and “let [him] move forward with investigating election meddling for future elections.” — Mueller Report
That’s not a request to fire Mueller. Likewise, Lewandowski was an outsider and had no power to fire the special counsel. Don’t get wrapped around the axle with regards to curtailing the investigation to future elections. The Mueller report found no evidence that anybody in the Trump campaign willingly or knowingly colluded with Russians.
“In February 2017, Attorney General Jeff Sessions began to assess whether he had to excuse himself from campaign related investigations because of his role in the Trump Campaign. In early March, the president told White House counsel Donald McGahn to stop Sessions from recusing.” — Mueller Report
That clearly is not a call to have Mueller fired. Another mention of Donald McGahn related to Flynn. Not exactly a discussion about having Donald McGahn fire Mueller.
The Napster has sold out to the Aussie boys whose Daddy owns FOX news. After his brief suspension, he changed his tune. I wouldn’t believe anything in the Mule-ear report if he and his crooked lawers were under oath and standing on a stack of bibles holding lightning rods in a thunderstorm. Anyone who believes the Mule-ear report needs to read about two years of posts on TheConservativeTreehouse.com. Sundance has been right about 90% of what has been going on with this criminal conspiracy to void the will of the voters in the 2016 election.
Andrew Napolitano: to firing Comey to impede the FBI’s investigations,
What the Mueller Report says:
“On May 3, 2017, Comey testified in a congressional hearing, but declined to answer questions about whether the President was personally under investigation. Within days, the President decided to terminate Comey. The President insisted that the termination letter, which was written for public release, state that Comey had informed the President that he was not under investigation. The day of the firing, the White House maintained that Comey’s termination resulted from independent recommendations from the Attorney General and Deputy Attorney General that Comey should be discharged for mishandling the Hillary Clinton email investigation.” — Mueller Report
If Comey privately told the President that he was not under investigation, then refused to state such in front of a congressional hearing, I’m sorry, but Comey lacks integrity. He couldn’t be trusted.
If you read the report, President Trump’s advisers did not have a positive outlook on Comey, based on a track record of his performance in his position. He was fired for reasons related to his lack of integrity, and for how he handled Hillary Clinton’s email investigation. The report also pointed out that the firing of an official above the investigation was not going to prevent the Mueller investigation.
Andrew Napolitano: to dangling a pardon in front of Michael Cohen to stay silent,
From the Mueller Report:
“On April 24, 2018, the President responded to a reporter’s inquiry whether he would consider a pardon for Cohen with, “Stupid question.” On June 8, 2018, the President said he “hadn’t even thought about” pardons for Manafort or Cohen, and continued, “It’s far too early to be thinking about that. They haven’t been convicted of anything. There’s nothing to pardon.” And on June 15, 2018, the President expressed sympathy for Cohen, Manafort, and Flynn: in a press interview and said, I feel badly about a lot of them, because I think a lot of it is very unfair. ”
President Trump accurately described this as a witch-hunt. The investigation was supposed to be on whether there was knowing/willing collusion between Russian agents and members of the Trump campaign. Cohen, Manafort, and Flynn got hammered for violations having nothing to do with the question on whether there was collusion between Russia and the Trump Campaign or not.
President Trump understood that these individuals were being pressured to pull s(BEEP) out of their a(BEEP)es in order to harm the President in exchange for leniency. Hence, the discussion of pardons zeroed in on this aspect, and not on any attempt to get witnesses to “lie”.
Andrew Napolitano: to ordering his aides to hide and delete records
Mentions of “hide” in the report:
“As early as spring of 2014, the IRA began to hide its funding and activities.” — Report
And…
“Both the GRU and WikiLeaks sought to hide their communications, which has limited the office’s ability to collect all of the communications between them.” — Mueller Report
Mentions of “delete” in the report had mostly to do with Clinton’s deleted emails, as well as procedural, mundane, communication procedures where communications would be deleted. The later is not that much different from any of us deleting emails, text, and other communication that’s either not relevant, or have served its purpose but must stay internal.
Nothing mentioned in the report that President Trump ordered that records be hidden, or deleted, in order to hide “wrong doing” or “potential wrong doing”.
LC: It seems quite clear that the choice not to indict President Trump is because he’s the President.
False. It’s quite clear, based on reading the report, that the decision not to indict the President has everything to do with insufficient evidence to determine obstruction, let alone to build a case for obstruction, and nothing to do with the assumption that he “was”, indeed, “guilty” of collusion or obstruction.
LC: So much as it pains me to say,
It should pain you to advance an argument that’s devoid of fact. But, since it didn’t, I subjected your argument to a blistering fact check scrutiny. It appears that neither Andrew Napolitano, Hillary Clinton, nor you have read the report… Or, if you guys did read the report, you guy’s cherry picked the report, or read just enough of the report to come to your factually challenged conclusions.
LC: Clinton is actually correct on something for a change. This doesn’t mean she’s not a huge hypocrit who has avoided prosecution due to her own position, it just means she’s right in this specific case.
False. She’s incorrect in implying that President Trump is “guilty” of obstruction. The team that wrote this report consists of Democrats. If President Trump was actually guilty of something that would get him indicted, they would’ve found real evidence much sooner. They wouldn’t have pushed the BS that they pushed in the report, BS that amounts to allowing this argument to continue despite the fact that the basis for this investigation amounted to a nothing burger.
You left off “Gun owner and NRA member.”
“Psychological projection is a defence mechanism in which the human ego defends itself against unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others. For example, a person who is habitually rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude. It incorporates blame shifting.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
hillarythehypocrite
WAITAMINNIT, didn’t Das Hildebeast gloatingly say to us all that it was our duty to abide by the results of the election no matter which side won? I bet she looks in the mirror each day screaming something like “MINE, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MINE, IT WAS MY TURN!!!” as she chokes on her own hate and bile. She along with AOC, “Hairplugs” Biden, Bernie, Buttplug and others do barge loads of favors for President Trump and the GOP each day, I’m staying stocked up on beer, nachos, pretzels and popcorn!
I am praying for the day when Cankles McPantsuit gets the perp walk in an orange jumpsuit for the whole world to see! That evil bitch needs to be shot at dawn!
You and I both, WW… the “Bitch of Benghazi” needs to be wearing Jailhouse Orange for a long, long time.
One day Hillary…
Orange is going to be your color.
About those discs that were destroyed…?
Some day, they will turn up undamaged, copied for posterity, and unlike Nixon’s missing 18 minutes of tape recordings for Watergate, she won’t get punished for anything because they won’t come up until she’s long gone and buried.
Which with her obviously precarious physical condition could be any day now.
Exactly.
Hopefully she will be reunited with her twin sister and in the same manner.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Ceau%C8%99escu
I hate that phuckin’ bitch and her husband they are so scummy that even scum no longer wants to be associated with them.
JUST go away, hopefully into solitary confinement in Leavenworth or Gitmo both of them parasites
May they both pass away ostracized and forgotten.
past away hanging from the gallows pole would be most appropriate
Yes indeed, as well as left there for the vultures and maggots to feast on.
Vultures and maggots don’t eat their own kind.
Rot in hell as Satan devours your soul you effing Bitch of Benghazi. And take blow job willie with you. Scrunt!
Yet she doesn’t think her husband having a private conversation with the attorney general while she’s under investigation is obstruction.
Just when I think her hypocrisy couldn’t get bigger she opens her evil, shark-like maw.
Don’t point out truths to everyone, Mason. They were just talking Little League baseball and grand kids and stuff that close down areas of airports every day. Then tell the Secret Service to shoo the local cops and local reporters away so the meeting will be secret.
You forgot that they talked about golf too, cuz Bubba was out in that 115 degree heat playing golf that day, with his heart condition. By the way, Ms. Lynch didn’t have any grandkids and Bubba only had one.
Well if you want to talk about obstruction of justice, perjury, suborning perjury, witness tampering, destruction of evidence, and threats to national security, you obviously want to hear from an expert. And now that Hildebeast has spoken, we’ve heard from an expert.
She and Kim Foxx…Double Standards:
“Citing Smollett, Cook County Judge Slams Kim Foxx’s Office On Double Standard”
https://www.foxnews.com/us/smollett-cook-county-kim-foxx-double-standard
“A Cook County judge recently called out embattled State Attorney Kim Foxx for upholding a double standard by prosecuting a woman for filing a false police report — but dropping similar charges against embattled “Empire” actor Jussie Smollett.”
“Cook County Judge Marc Martin, who was presiding over an unrelated case, chastised Foxx and her office for creating a situation where anyone charged with filing a false report would expect the same leniency her office afforded Smollett.”
“Candace Clark, 21, is facing one felony count of making a false report. Prosecutors accused her of giving a friend access to her bank account and then telling authorities the money had been stolen. She denies the charges and claims she’s the victim of Foxx’s double standard — something the judge weighed in on.”
“Well, Ms. Clark is not a movie star, she doesn’t have a high-price lawyer, although, her lawyer’s very good. And this smells, big time,” Martin said to prosecutors during a recent hearing, Fox 32 reported. “I didn’t create this mess, your office created this mess. And your explanation is unsatisfactory to this court. She’s being treated differently.”
“The judge continued, “There’s no publicity on this case. She doesn’t have Mark Geragos as her lawyer or Ron Safer or Judge Brown. It’s not right. And (if) I proceed in this matter, you’re just digging yourselves further in a hole. (If the) press gets a hold of this, it’ll be in a newspaper. Why is Ms. Clark being treated differently than Mr. Smollett?”
That was on local news last night. This young lady did something very, very stupid, and got caught, but because she has no money and no public status as someone “special” like Smollet, she wanted to know why she gets whacked and he didn’t.
Fair is fair: let her go or bust him – one or the other. She can do community service as a penalty, but don’t favor one over the other.
Foxx should be fired just for this.
Ex-PH2:
Agree with you 100%.
The same with the Democrat Party…if they are going after President Trump for “obstruction”, then they need to go after HRC.
Too many Policital Hypocrites…hopefully, Americans are getting tired of the Hypocrisy and Double Standards and will make the right decision when casting their vote on the next Election…
IMHO it’s further testimony of what a whorehouse our Justice System can truly be.
Bible Lesson for HRC:
Matthew 7:3-5
“Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?”
“How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye?”
“You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.”
Her next Bible lesson:
Revelation 19:11
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
Amen!!!!!
It is past time to water The Tree of Liberty with the blood of tyrants, and if need be, the blood of Patriots too. Shall we draw our swords and throw away the scabbards? “Then, Sir, we will give them the bayonet.”
Coming from someone who would have been indicted, tried, convicted, and imprisoned for intentional mishandling of classified information (including TS/SCI material) had her name been anything other than “Hillary Rodham Clintoon”, this is indeed chutzpah personified.
And yes: the spelling “Clintoon” is intentional.
Hondo:
Clintoon fits the symptons of having Narcissistic Personality Disorder:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662
That’s been pretty obvious since her “We are the President” comment roughly 25 years ago, AP.
And to think that some poor deluded fools still think that epically corrupt wretched creature would have been the better choice for President….
That clinton lady really knows how to razzle dazzle her peeps with her Bull shit.
Cunt punt!
HRC is a disgusting, evil, and useless criminal.
Clinton is the perfect example of a woman cheated on. First Bill the Dill played hide the bacon with a younger woman, then the “Don” destroyed her dreams by thrashing her in Politics.
It is true, the one with the most to hide yells the loudest about the crimes of the other. Projection of a guilty person who has so much to hide. She just like any other deprived looser can’t deal with reality.