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Totally legit; SF Cav

by Jonn Lilyea••52

Totally legit SF Cav

So we got this picture this morning along with this narrative;

A friend and I went out for a steak and a beer tonight and could not stop wondering about this gentleman. This green beret claims to have deployed to Vietnam, Iraq in 1983, and Afghanistan in 1993. Give me a hand here. I have a feeling that this guy is missing a thing or two. I’m an army veteran but, I must confess, I served three years active, and I have six ribbons for my uniform, and I need to go to rack builder.com to tell me how to line them up. I’m pretty much clueless on this subject.

Yes, he’s totally legit, I can tell from the Cavalry flash (On edit; my bad, it looked white and red when I first saw it – but I guess it’s the 11th SFG flash) on his green beret (it might be a black beret) behind the Special Forces DUI and there’s a POW Medal, too, right next to foreign awards from Vietnam. And a senior NCO is authorized to unbutton the last few buttons on the jacket because we need the room for beer.

Totally legit SF Cav rack

And he was in Vietnam 10 years after the combat troops left and he was in Afghanistan ten years before US troops arrived, so he’s totally stud. I want to know who spends that kind of money on a uniform for $5 worth of free beer?

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52 thoughts on “Totally legit; SF Cav”

  1. We should have a new law that on Veteran’s Day, *real* veterans should be able to publicly strip down and kneecap fakes at will, with extreme prejudice, and without repercussion.

    1. This the reason I don’t go out on Veterans Day to any public space. I’ll end up throat punching some dick weed and my family will be deprived of their father because he is jail.

      What a fuckstick.

      1. I am the same way. I stayed home, cooked steaks on the Grill and had a nice day. I just cant afford an assault charge !

      2. Same here.

        All the turds come out.

        I went to an event last year were all the proceeds went to WWP.

        I was curious.

        Not anymore.

        I stay in.

        WWP is joke.

      3. I stayed home yesterday and minded my own business. I had no desire to witness the poser freaks come out of the woodwork to claim free food and bennies that was meant for real veterans…

      5. Yep. Went to a Caps game, and didn’t seek out free shit. That was about the extent of my outings. I will not step foot into an Applebee’s or a Golden Trough (Corral) on Veterans Day, because there will invariably be a dick weasel that will be cruisin’ for a nut punch.

        2. Golden Corral wasnt giving out anything free on Veterans Day. They never have given anything out free on Veterans Day.

          They select a different day, maybe a week later. So, when was the last time you went to a Golden Corral?

          1. They used too, actually.

            At least several years prior out here in the Great NW.

            But they folded shop a few years back and moved on, so who knows?

    2. I left the house to go donate plasma (every Tuesday), and then stopped by Starbucks for a free coffee, after that, I went home and played Xbox for the rest of the afternoon.

      I don’t deal with posers. Just the idiot yuppies at the local coffee shop.

    3. “The American Veteran’s Valor Act, or A Bill to allow Veterans to Protect Valor

      “Whereas: Stolen Valor is a major issue, both financially and emotionally to not only the American population, but the American Veteran, and
      “Whereas: Veterans are fully ready to defend their hard-earned valor at any moment, but are held back by law,
      “Therefore: Every Veterans and Memorial Day, Veterans are hereby allowed to beat the shit out of any Stolen Valor thief they encounter with no due penalty law to be set against them.”

  2. And a senior NCO is authorized to unbutton the last few buttons on the jacket because we need the room for beer.

    Best line of the day, thank you.

    Regarding the object of our affection in this post, what a giant noodling fuckstick. Some of these guys aren’t even trying really, they just tell lies while clueless civilians buy them goods and services….WTF?

    2. More room for beer is the purpose of chained buttons (or whatever they’re called in militaryese) on the mess dress uniforms.

  3. Plus the fact he has what appears to be three (3), USAF ribbons on his rack. Things that make you go “HMMMMM”

    1. Well, I have a bunch of Air Force ribbons on my rack. However, I was in the Air National Guard before coming over to the Army but it is possible.

      🙂

    2. I have a few ribbons on my AF rack that were awarded by the Army from my first enlistment so that is possible.

  4. What was he doing in Vietnam? Building fish ponds? Planting rice in the paddies? Looking for that cache of beer up at Khe Sanh? Recovering unused C-rats?

    Or was he just lying about it all? Hmmm….

    This should be fun.

    1. I was just thinking that he looks awfully young to have been around for Vietnam. You know, because he looks several years younger than my Dad, who was 14 when they evacuated the embassy in Saigon.

    1. Ah! The ultimate warrior! The time travel warrior!

      Wait a minute – I invented that after many, many years of watching ‘Doctor Who’. This crapweasel is trying to steal my ideas.

      Let me at him. I’ll pull the hair out of his nose and teach him some respect1

      1. Maybe he’s like the Wolverine and doesn’t age…and may be shit will shoot out of his knuckles too…

    2. And the ONE item that most people have if they were there: NO GEDUNK MEDAL, with or without stars.

    3. As one of the resident zoomies, yes those appear to be AF specific awards/ribbons and wouldn’t normally be given to an Army guy. Also while it is possible for an AF member to serve with the Green Bennies, they would still be AF and wear our uniform not an Army one. Also while its possible to cross over and while I’m not 100% on which ribbons one could where from the prior service the likely.hood based on his story is virtually nill In this case.

      In agreement poser in the 1st degree!

      1. The only Air Force ribbon I was not allowed to carry over when I but on the green suit was the Air Force Longevity Service Medal because the Army has service stripes on the sleeve, which I then had to remove when I was commissioned. I also got screwed out of wearing the Air Force Good Conduct Medal because it wasn’t authorized for most of my time in the Air Guard. They reauthorized it and made it retroactive just before I transferred to the Army Guard but I never put in the paperwork to get it awarded because now, as an Officer, it is authorized for wear but highly discouraged based on the idea that “You’re an Officer, you’re supposed to be good all the time!”

        1. Mustang1LT sez:

          …as an Officer, [the Good Conduct Medal] is authorized for wear but highly discouraged based on the idea that “You’re an Officer, you’re supposed to be good all the time!”

          It was a great way to show you were a mustang. I never got flack for my GCM … And all mustangs I knew (OCS) proudly wore their GCMs.

          1. I guess I could put in for the 2 awards of the Air Force GCM that I am owed, but it’s probably going to be a royal pain in the butt. I’ll look into it when I get home. In my case, the Army folks wouldn’t know what it was anyway.

            1. Mine was USAF also; the grunts quickly figured out it was some sort of Birdman award.

              If your two GCMs are on your USAF DD-214, you should not have any trouble getting them added to your ORB.

  7. Nothing says authentic Vietnam Vet like a Class A uniform with a white, Oxford, button-down shirt. Nothing.

    1. The devil is always in the details, and dumb fuckstick liars usually miss the little things…

    2. How I miss the khaki shirt … and loathed the “Girl Scout” green shirt.

      White is better than GS green, but I have this addiction to khaki ….

      I suppose there is a support group somewhere for people like me.

      1. Yea.. Support group for that. go to http://www.spankme.com.

        Seriously, dont think there is a real support group. But you can create a group on FaceBook. maybe that where the posers meet to trade ideas, or offer suggestions, and maybe give each other some one on one time with the make believe priests.

    3. 2/17 Air Cav: I seem to remember that Greens with white shirt was authorized in lieu of Blues for enlisted personnel at formal occasions “many moon ago”. Don’t think a button-down shirt was authorized, though – and I think a bow tie, not a 4-in-hand, was also required.

      That was a loooong time ago now, so I could easily be wrong.

  8. It’s a little chilly here in N. Texas so last week I started wearing a light jacket that I bought at the bazaar at FOB Airborne. It’s non-regulation, OD Green, and I put an American flag on one shoulder. (A velcro flag that I picked up out of the dirt when we were shutting down COP Sayed Abad.) No rank, no nametape, no tabs, etc. So I was in Sam’s Club, shepherding the checkout girl, lifting boxes for her, etc. and a guy came up on my left with his hand out and said “Excuse me.” I pivot and see his hand, so I shake his hand as he says, “Thank you for your service.” As soon as I figured out what was going on, I said, “Thank you, but I never served.” After that I was self conscious the rest of the day wearing that jacket, but I didn’t hit the Golden Corral or anywhere where someone might put a free meal or drink in my hands. I hope each of you guys and gals had a good day yesterday in your own way. Myself and others appreciate your commitment and sacrifice. Meet me at The Goat sometime and $2 ice cold longnecks are on me.

  9. He’s a tool, Jonn – not a very intelligent one IMO. But best I can tell, I don’t think he’s wearing the ribbon for the POW Medal. The top-inboard ribbon appears to be an AF unit award.

    Here’s what I get when I decrpyt his hosed-up, out-of-order ribbon rack.

    Top row: AF Outstanding Unit Award, VSM, VCM w/1960 device
    Middle row: AF Commendation Medal, American Campaign Medal*, USAF GCM
    Bottom row: ASR, AFRM, American Defense Service Medal*

    The two marked with an asterisk (*) are World War II era decorations – the American Defense Service Medal actually precedes World War II.

    The ribbons are obviously hugely out of order. And while the AFCOM is theoretically possible (and I guess the AFOUA is as well), the USAF GCM and the two World War II-era medals are clearly bullsh!t. The ribbon for the American Campaign Medal is also upside-down.

    Box, tool, one each.

    1. Hondo…Damn you beat me to it. Top precedence award…AF Outstanding Unit Award. Why? Because all high speed SF operators wear their AF awards on top! Fucking tool. How do these guys make out of a bar without getting the shit kicked out of them? I mean, take a douchenozzle like him, mix well with bull shit stories and a way, jacked up uniform and lots of alcohol, in my day that meant “in here or out back…your choice but we’re having a go!!

    2. Most posers don’t give a flying fuck about awards precedence, or even that there is one; all they care about is that the colors of the ribbons don’t clash with each other, and that the different ribbon colors are spread out evenly to make the rack look color-coordinated and soothing to the eye…

    3. The phoney molester of the truth is also wearing an 11th Special Forces Group flash. That reserve unit was inactivated in the early 1990s. He is also wearing the 11th Group oval behind his jump wings. The wearing of an oval of an inactivated unit makes no sense!

      He is a throat punch Veterans Day target.

      Now as time passes, I see why my buddy hated going out in public…the phonies are everywhere…and wearing uniforms.

  10. Had a short Veterans Day Memorial at the USS EDSON (museum ship) yesterday. I am sorry to report that I spent most of my time not listening to the guest speakers, but scanning the crowd for phonies. Saw a Army COL in full dress and wondered about him. Asked around and was told he is the past commander of the local American Legion.

    I hope he is legit but Still do not know for sure. This site makes me suspicious about everyone. I used to accept everyone at face value. BZ to all who have served

      1. What years. The Edson is looking pretty sharp at this moment.

        There is an old POD still posted on the bulkhead. It is over a Christmas weekend. Next time I am aboard, I will look at what date. Perhaps your name will appear.

        Thanks for your service from a retired YNC

  14. This clown has a mixed bag of ribbons. Some Air Force, with and Army Traing ribbon and a couple of WWII ribbons. SLP

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