Daniel sends this link from Business Insider and Military.com about gang members stealing military munitions from bases;
The FBI released its gang assessment in October saying that of the 1.4 million gang members in the U.S., many are in the American military.
I don’t know what “many of them” means, but I’m sure it’s meant to make us think that millions of gang members are in the military. At the Business Insider link there’s a picture of a 105mm artillery round found in a gang member’s home. What is a gang going to do with an artillery round?
While it appears the Army has the largest problem with gangs, some experts feel other branches may be underreporting the number of gang members within the rank and file.
“I think the problem — percentage wise — is bigger in the Marines but there are no statistics to back that up since the Marines fail to admit it ever existed,” said Richard Valdemar, a retired Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department sergeant and gang expert. “In incidents I am personally familiar with, it seems to be mostly in the Marines.”
Like that, Marines? No one can pin down numbers, so they’ll just paint with a broad brush.
Former Marine and previous gang member T.J. Heyden told the Daily Press that none of this surprises him.
“It’s a lot harder to get firearms and rifles off a base but artillery rounds aren’t that difficult,” he said, pointing out firearms are counted three times a day, but it’s much harder to account for artillery shells.
“It’s easy to say you fired 10 rounds when you only actually fired eight or six.”
Yeah, and artillery rounds come in so handy on the street, too.
Gang experts feel a more stringent qualification process during recruitment plus continued vigilance and education about gangs and their practices could help identify gang members within the ranks.
Recruiters want to tell us what the military can do? It sounds to me like the the gun thing with VoteVets, if they have a clean record, the only left to do is profiling.
To paraphrase Mae West, ‘Oh-oh-oh. Is that an artillery round in your pocket or are you happy to see me?’
The Taliban has been doing pretty well with tons of ordnance and no guns. Let’s hope the crips and bloods don’t start planting ieds all over southern California.
All of this crap is based on an original report from the “Southern Poverty Law Center” that was released over three months ago. Make up your own mind on how accurate it actually is.
I call BS, especially on the artillery rounds accountability.
To quote the dickhead in the article:
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“It’s a lot harder to get firearms and rifles off a base but artillery rounds aren’t that difficult,” he said, pointing out firearms are counted three times a day, but it’s much harder to account for artillery shells.
“It’s easy to say you fired 10 rounds when you only actually fired eight or six.”
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That assumes that everyone on the crew is in on the theft, that those calling in the fire can’t count impacts, and that those in the chain of custody for the munitions are complicit as well.
There is NO WAY you can have that many people around and just have a few rounds “walk”. Doesn’t happen.
AS #3 points out, this original report was from the cock sucking assmaggot anti-semitic crapweasels at the SPLC so anything they put out should be automatically suspect by anyone with more than a 3rd grade education.
Shocking! Gang members in the military?
Well, back in the mid part of the last century there were gang members in the military. I would highly suspect anyone who declared that there are NO gang members in the military today.
Is this another one of those answers to a question not asked? File this one in the circular file.
Remember, the FBI gang “assessment” that listed Juggalos (yeah, the fans of rap group Insane Clow Posse) as a gang threat was taken down.
Yup, they’re on to us. They make stupid statements and put stupid crap on line and it gets taken down.
The “Gangs in the military stealing ____” meme has been going on since the late 1980’s.
Time did a story on gangs stealing C-4 from military bases. Remember national guard armories were also being robbed of M-16s! Alert votevets!
Seriously, they need a “folk devil” to justify more money.
This is another one of those myths that will never die, despite being disproven over and over again.
And, aside from the urban myth, it’s a way for certain departments to enhance their funding. Sen. Feinstein, gangs are stealing military ornance, please help us get another $2 million in “anti-gang” funding.
I can honestly say that, in 27 years in LE, I never ran into a veteran gang-banger. Military veteran gang-banger, that is. Plenty of veteran gang-bangers, mostly on parole, looking for chances to go back inside.
I find the gangs-in-the-military angle very suspect, too, UpNorth. But we seem to be in the minority. There are not very many gang members who can avoid arrests or detentions, graduate from high school or complete GED courses, and qualify for enlistment at age 18 or 19. However, the anti-gang grants for LE training, intel data bases (GangNet)and other goodies are a fat cash cow for LE agencies from Mayberry to the NYPD. Meanwhile, what group or their sympathizers have been responsible, nearly exclusively, for the murders of out troops at home? But, sssshhhh, on that.