Someone sent us their work on this Jeffrey D. Allen fellow who claims on his LinkedIn profile to be a special forces demolitions soldier and a recruiter (for some reason);
He may or may not have been in the 82d Airborne Division. His Facebook contains a picture of him that he claims was taken in 1978, but the rank on the uniform indicates that he was an E-4 Specialist, but he never went beyond E-3 Private First Class in his four years on active duty and seven years in the National Guard. His records aren’t clear on his assignments during his active duty time.
It is clear from his records, however, that he was not special forces-trained, nor was he a school-trained recruiter. His FOIA says that he completed Jump School, but it doesn’t record his jump wings in the awards.
His records also say that he was in Saudi Arabia for Desert Storm, but there are no awards listed for his presence there. The 72nd MP Company of the Nevada National Guard did deploy to Desert Storm and they had responsibility for Enemy Prisoner of War Camps (EPW) 401 and 403, so he could have been there.
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118 responses to “Jeffrey D. Allen; phony SF operator”
— SIGH —
Here we go again.
ex-OS2:
Bring it.
Cleared hot.
With all the action this morning; EX-OS2 just has to be about BINGO on his fuel. Someone launch the Alert 15 Tanker.
Good point.
He’s probably also just about WINCHESTER on ordnance.
Cocksucker.
Cocksucker.
RTB.
BZ!
I wonder how many fake legionaries claimed to cross the Rubicon with Julius Caesar…you just know some asshole claimed it.
I was there with Caeser. That water was cold
I was there with Caesar. I was only a lowly cook. I invented the salad.
Just as long as you didn’t “toss” salad, I’d believe you about being with Caesar.
Did you know Biggus Dickus?
He was a friend of a friend of mine.
He had a wife you know.
Gigantus Vaginus?
Missus Dickus
Ywho Two…
Stwike Them, Centuwion, vewy woughly!
Oh, yes. Thwow thim to the floor, please.
I remember her fondly.
Incontinentia Buttocks.
Bwingho
And the others will run with Mucus!
Just kidding
In this day and age with the internet that it is and easily attainable information…..why do people insist on these lies?
No one ever said these posers and embellishers were smart.
The fact is the only one claiming I was in the SF is the libel writer of this rag blog.
So whose LinkedIn profile is that above, pray tell?
The AlGoreNet knows all, sees all.
Bullshit- are you trying to say that this ISN’T from your LinkedIn page: Soldier
Company NameUS Army
Dates EmployedFeb 1978 – Aug 1992 Employment Duration14 yrs 7 mos
Occupations:
Paratrooper (airborne infantry)
TOW missile gunner (anti-armor)
Public affairs photojournalist
Mechanized cavalry (recon)
MP (EPW ops) military police
Public affairs newsletter editor
Armored personnel carrier (APC) driver
2 1/2 ton transport truck driver
Firing range instructor (LAW missile)
Portable PRC-77 radio operator
Recruiter
Diplomas & certificates:
Emergency Medical Tech (EMT)
S.F. Demolitions/Explosives
Medals, Ribbons, & Awards:
Bronze, Overseas, Federal Service, Army Achievement, Airborne wings
Overseas tours included:
DMZ, So. Korea & Desert Storm, Saudi Arabia
You are talking about a country where 80% of the people claiming to have served in Vietnam are lying about it. It could be a lot worse.
Apparently a new ambulance driver in our town is claiming SEAL service. I predict an interesting conversation in a couple of weeks.
I’m pretty certain that S.F demolitions refers to San Francisco Rectum Wrecking and seminal pool diving.
LOL
It’s sad that hearing and reading disorder is rampant. The only one claiming I was in the SF is the libel rag writer.
Such a shame that your LinkedIn profile says otherwise: Soldier
Company NameUS Army
Dates EmployedFeb 1978 – Aug 1992 Employment Duration14 yrs 7 mos
Occupations:
Paratrooper (airborne infantry)
TOW missile gunner (anti-armor)
Public affairs photojournalist
Mechanized cavalry (recon)
MP (EPW ops) military police
Public affairs newsletter editor
Armored personnel carrier (APC) driver
2 1/2 ton transport truck driver
Firing range instructor (LAW missile)
Portable PRC-77 radio operator
Recruiter
Diplomas & certificates:
Emergency Medical Tech (EMT)
S.F. Demolitions/Explosives
Medals, Ribbons, & Awards:
Bronze, Overseas, Federal Service, Army Achievement, Airborne wings
Overseas tours included:
DMZ, So. Korea & Desert Storm, Saudi Arabia
Demolition expert…he should start with that loud tie
Why does that pic of him at the top just scream PROUD FUCKING COCKSUCKER?
JEFFERY D. ALLEN = COCKSUCKING ASS HAMSTER!
Not certain that this guy rises to the level of the WALL O INSULTS.
Thoughts?
Naw. He’s kinda like a sunflower seed. Too much work for too little meat. So don’t waste a Wall on him. I’m sure there will more deserving individuals in our future.
But, then again, in the uniform photo, (supposedly taken when he had only six months on active duty) he is sporting the Army Good Cookie, so…??
Yeah, that’s why I posted my less then enthusiastic question.
Just not feeling it with this jerkoff.
Noticed the blue cord and disc in his picture. Did MPs get them back then?
He was infantry in the late 70’s – early 80’s. 11H = Heavy Antiarmor Crewman, AKA TOW Gunner.
Who does he think that pose reminds people of, Underdog? Truth, Justice, and the American Ballsucker? Four years active duty and never made E-4… there is a story in there. Probably not a pretty one.
Or made it, then decided being a PFC was more fun, so gave the Sham Shield back.
I suppose he could have been an E4. The DD214 gives rank at discharge, not highest rank obtained. So, I guess it follows that he could have rocketed to E4 over three or so before returning to E3.
For the uneducated. You do not need to go to recruiter school to serve in that capacity and receive an Army Achievement medal for doing so. So the only lie is the libel is suggesting fraud where none lies. Also the only nitwit claiming I was in SF is the writer of this rag and nitwits who believe him
Hey, Jeffy-boi… go look at your LinkedIn profile.
“S.F. Demolitions/Explosives”
Uh, actually, yeah you do.
There is a HARP (Hometown Assistance Recruiting Program) where junior folks can spend 30 days telling their former classmates, etc., what a great deal the service is, but that is TAD, not permanent, rarely (if ever) results in more than a hearty handshake from the District, and they didn’t go to school and qualify as “bag-toting” recruiters.
Next?
Sincerely,
Former Recruiter (among other things)
I think we called it recruiters assistant (MC). It was an opportunity to spend 30 extra days banging your girl friend after boot camp, before MOS school. Mostly involved the recruiter showing off what a physical specimen you now were and taking advantage of the post-boot camp moto.
One possible explanation regarding the lack of wings on his paperwork is that he may have graduated and then terminated jump status. At least when I was in if you had less than 18 months on status and voluntarily terminated you were not allowed to keep your wings. The school remained in your file but the wings were removed from your awards.
Also, in the photo he appears to be wearing a Good Conduct Medal which isn’t listed on his awards. In 1978 the GCM and ARCOM were about the only two ribbons an E-3/E-4 would have had.
No mention of those unit citations in the FOIA either.
Unit citations only go on a soldier’s records if the soldier is in the unit when the award is given. Pretty sure there were few (if any) unit citations from 1978-82.
If he was in the 82nd (looks like he was in some component of it) then the unit awards probably go back to WWII, and are only worn while the soldier is in the unit.
So Army folks wear citation just for being attached to a Unit? That’s odd…doesn’t work that way in the USN/USMC
Isn’t that a major PITA every time you PCS?
Yes, that’s correct. When a soldier is assigned to a unit, he wears that units awards only while in that unit.
That goes not only for ribbons but for other awards as well – when I was in 2nd ID, we wore the French fourragere from WWI.
PITA? Eh, not really. Takes a minute or two to put a ribbon on or take it off (it helps that in the Army unit awards are worn above the right pocket while individual awards go over the left – they’re not mixed in like some other services.)
Besides, even back in the “peacetime” 80’s and 90’s when I was in, it was rare for a soldier to wear class A uniforms more than a couple of times a year. Usually just promotion boards, graduation from some NCOES school, or the rare formal event.
I was thinking of the pin holes left from different size ribbon bar holders. Figured that would be a SGM’s wet dream.
The Marines do that also with the Fouragierre (5th/6th Marines if I recall)…but other than that the only citations we wear are the ones we earned serving with the unit.
To each their own.
*Fourragere
It’s always fun trying to find out if your old command got a unit award after you left. I got to the point that if I didn’t get it while I was there, I didn’t bother.
My first thought was that he was sporting a lot of Unit Citations considering he said that he only had a year in when that pic was taken. But Martinjmpr educated me.
They are supposed to go on your personnel record if you are in the unit when the unit award was made, but sometimes it doesn’t happen. I was in the 3/12th Inf Bn/4th ID in RVN when it was awarded the Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry, but it isn’t on my Form 66 or my DD-214. I know the unit award was made because I was standing in formation in front of my company when it was awarded to our battalion. We were the last infantry battalion to leave the An Khe base camp in December, 1970.
Barry did you notice the cord and discs? Did MPs get those back them?
MP’s have never worn the blue discs or the blue rope, as they are specific to infantry. In the period photo, he is wearing the maroon beret of paratroop units (worn by the 82nd at the time and now). He was apparently an 11H at the time and assigned to the 82nd Abn Division or the 18th Abn Corps at Ft Bragg.
Takes 3 years to get a GCM, so my guess is that the photo dates from 1981. That also coincides with the time when the maroon beret was officially authorized for the 82nd.
Him being a SP/4 after 3 years would also make sense. What’s missing is that there is no apparent FOIA record of his first active duty enlistment from 1978-82. It may be that he got up to SP/4 and then stepped on his dick hard enough to lose a stripe but not hard enough to warrant a punitive discharge (could have been drugs, there was a lot of that going on back then) and then ETS’d.
Possibly a jump refusal,,,he would loose them that way also.
Possible although if that happened it must have happened near the end of his career.
Again, there’s a huge gaping hole in the records that is his active enlistment for 4 years from 1978 to 1982. He did a full 4 year enlistment, so he very likely did not get booted out. A record of assignments for that period would be revealing but apparently the FOIA didn’t include that.
As far as the lack of jump wings and the characterization of his rank at discharge as a PV2, that could be because of misconduct and it could also be a simple clerical error. That 2-1 form appears to be from his National Guard days since all of his active duty is summarized in one line.
At that time, many national guard units had atrocious paperwork and record keeping issues and it’s entirely believable that the clerk screwed that up (in fact, you can strike the “at that time” portion: when I retired from the NG in 2005 my NGB-22 was a complete soup sandwich.)
I’ve seen a E-4 do a jump refusal, and not only loose his wings, but also got a Art. 15. Could he possibly did a refusal and not only loose his wings, but a stripe also?
I suppose it’s possible but if he was still on jump status after 18 months he would keep his jump wings even if he was a refusal, IIRC.
I think sometimes we read too much into these FOIA request responses. They’re good for determining the “big” things like if someone ever served and when, but on the smaller things like whether they earned this or that award, they can be very hit and miss.
This makes sense because as far as I can tell, that FOIA data is coming from someone who has to physically transcribe information from a service members record. If the transcriber misses something and it doesn’t show up, we can’t necessarily take it as gospel truth that the soldier didn’t earn it (absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, IOW.)
Put more simply, while it’s pretty clear that he was never the SF demo expert he claims to be (because that would surely have shown up on his NG 2-1) stating without foundation that he never earned his SP/4 rank or jump wings simply because they don’t appear on the FOIA request response is pretty much unsubstantiated speculation at this point.
Obviously it’s a different story if the service member himself provides a DD-214. But it does not appear that we have a 214.
A record of assignments from his AD days would clear up a lot of this. If he was assigned to the 82nd as a SP/4 and then suddenly transferred to leg-land as a PV2 then we could figure he must have done something to get himself both reduced in rank AND booted from the Deuce.
A jump refusal fits that scenario because no way would he be kept in one of the line battalions after being a jump refusal – my understanding is that any 82nd trooper who was a jump refusal would not only be Article 15’d and booted from the 82nd, but since there are no other 11-series MOS slots on Bragg, they would most likely find themselves on PCS orders to some undesirable location like Korea.
Who lies about being a recruiter of all things.
I have to lie and deny being one on occasion.
Or a LAW range instructor.
Sheesh!
Someone wanting to dip a DEP. Happens more than you think. Usually they are sex predator or a faker who needs to explain why they are in uniform 300 miles from the nearest base.
The two least fortunate years of my life I spent in recruiting I ran across two. Since recruiters don’t have any valor to steal you don’t hear about them much.
For the uneducated. You do not need to go to recruiter school to serve in that capacity and receive an Army Achievement medal for doing so. So the only lie is the libel is suggesting fraud where none lies
What about the rest of your bullshit, Jeff? That’s the only reason you called me and called me a liar? The most petty point in the entire post?
You’re reading in what’s not there Jeffrey old bean. The info posted is qualified as having come from gov’t records of your service. No one has concocted anything. No one has published a falsehood. You can set the record straight if you like. Of course, that would begin by taking exception to the records. If you have an original that you would like to fax to Jonn, he will gladly accept it. Be careful with the typeset, not that you would alter a doc but, believe it or not, others have tried (and failed) to do just that.
I tried to explain that to him on the phone but he was more interested in calling me names.
He identifies as an “unofficial recruiter” on his junk page. I am an unofficial Supreme Court justice myself so I know what he means.
Called you names? I assume he didn’t call you ‘sweetheart’.
I don’t think that going home for a month and being a PV2/PFC Hometown Recruiter qualifies you to call yourself a “Recruiter” and being put on mission at a station.
It’s all just Dog and Pony show stuff, anyway.
It doesn’t.
Yes you do. USAREC takes their doctrine very seriously, you’re not allowed to do much of anything until you complete the school.
An AAM!
High speed!
Fake? I don’t believe it. Only a heart breaker and life taker would wear a tie like that
I’m betting based on the beret flash and oval he was in E-325 Abn Inf. It was the 2d Brigade Antiarmor Company. The 82d had a strange TOE, no heavy Antitank at the Rifle Company level, double the Heavy AT (TOWs) at the Battalion level and a Brigade level AT Company.
I had a Bn level platoon in 3-325.
Still don’t mean he was SF…
I just contacted the writer of this rag blog to notify him he is a liar posting libel remarks on the internet. While the DD214 may need to be updated there is no comment from me ever being IN the SF. Prime example of people with selective hearing and reading disorder. Luckily, in a court of the law the person stating published false remarks known as libel is a crime.
You might want to check the definition of “libel”, junior.
I did sonny
While you were doing sonny, I was doing cher. Thanks. You’ve been a great crowd. Oh, and try the veal.
Awesomesauce!
Ha! 🙂
2/17, a spew alert was indicated on that delivery. Luckily now using a ruggedized keyboard.
Look up the term, “discovery” while you’re at it.
The butt hurt is strong in this one, Kemosabe!
Uh-Oh!! Underdog speaks.
Oh, Jeffie, Jeffie, Jeffie…!
Aren’t you just the pot calling the kettle black, Toots! So I guess it hurts to be found out, huh? Y’know, I coulda claimed I was in a combat camera group but anyone who was in when I was in knows that would be pure BS.
So, jammit, Jeffie. And get rid of that idiotic cheap burgundy shirt, willya? What are you, some kind of gay mobster or something? Geez, even my cousin Vinnie has better taste than that.
He reminds me of that Jimmy Wah character from Good Morning Vietnam.
“You like my shiny red shirt? Maybe next time you bring me naked picture Walter Brennan?”
Yeah, the shiny red disco shirt does kinda indicate bad taste in either clothing or sexual partners.
So where did the “S.F. Demolitions/Explosives Certified” come from, Jeff?
By the way, libel is not a crime. If it can be proven, it’s a civil matter.
But no matter how you slice it, expressing an opinion based on disclosed facts is not libel. Jonn posted your LinkedIn profile, and your official military records obtained from the NPRC, and people commented on the discrepancies between the two. If you have documents that might clear up some of the discrepancies, by all means submit them.
Jeffie, PUH-LEEEZZZE!
You put ‘S.F. Demolitions Explosives Certified’ on your CV, Big Boy. If it ain’t there, no one would mention it. You put it there, Jeffie.
Jeff,take a min to read this post
http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=39711
So you’re saying that your LinkedIn profile doesn’t include the “S.F. Demolitions/Explosives Certified” claim?
HEY, ya DINGLEBERRY of a buck-toothed Swamp Donkey, sue me too and if you get anything, I’ll split it with you, mighty liberal of me, ain’t it?
Get a new tie.
And a new batch of lies….
You might want to remove your LinkedIn profile from the internet, then- since it lists you as being SF: Soldier
Company NameUS Army
Dates EmployedFeb 1978 – Aug 1992 Employment Duration14 yrs 7 mos
Occupations:
Paratrooper (airborne infantry)
TOW missile gunner (anti-armor)
Public affairs photojournalist
Mechanized cavalry (recon)
MP (EPW ops) military police
Public affairs newsletter editor
Armored personnel carrier (APC) driver
2 1/2 ton transport truck driver
Firing range instructor (LAW missile)
Portable PRC-77 radio operator
Recruiter
Diplomas & certificates:
Emergency Medical Tech (EMT)
S.F. Demolitions/Explosives
Medals, Ribbons, & Awards:
Bronze, Overseas, Federal Service, Army Achievement, Airborne wings
Overseas tours included:
DMZ, So. Korea & Desert Storm, Saudi Arabia
An AAM!
Impressive.
Cripes. He sucks at threats of legal action, too. The only cause of action I see comes from him. He called Jonn a liar.
These clowns. They all fail to understand that some of us have ethics, don’t lie about stuff and learned a very long time ago to recognize liars without ethics at a distance.
Notice you’re not addressing the Desert Storm issues. Pretty much you’re staying away from anything specific except for the recruiter point. I think you protest too much.
FWIW, I don’t have a reading disorder, nor am I uneducated. What I do have is a lot of experience in dealing with liars and you’re walking the walk pretty well right now.
Jeffrey. You wrote bullshit. You got caught. That’s the way the cookie crumbles. By the way, how did you go from E4 to E3, or didn’t that happen?
Still trying to figure this out from his LinkedIn profile:
Under Medals, Ribbons, & Awards he says he received a “Bronze”.
A Bronze what?
Surely he’s not implying he received the Bronze Star Medal.
If so, he should prepare himself to get a ChipNASA style Wall of Shame beatdown comment.
I noticed that too and the coveted 2 1/2 ton transport truck driver training.
Unless of course Jeff is referring to the bronze 12″ Lex Steele dildo he has crammed up his ass, it’s really anyone’s guess.
Umm, got it. Lex Steele dildos come with an Olympics style rating. NSFW/Spew Alert Warning:
12″ – Bronze
14″ – Silver
16″ – Gold
Is an 18 incher Platinum?/smile
Shakey Walls sports the 18″ Platinum, so he says.
Left ball low, Jimmah!
I’m sure that they all have “gorilla fist” action, for that “just freshly violated” feeling
Or a 12″ Phildo.
The “Gentleman’s Special”.
A truly “Phildoesque” dude this clown is…..
You’re in deep now, Jonn. I think he may obtain a ‘lawer’ to get the $32 you have in the bank. I wouldn’t worry, though, unless he tries to get your cheap cigars and cheaper booze.
Bwhaaaa
‘Truth, Justice and the American Way’
Don’t worry about cigars, Jonn. Just say the word, and I’ll have the cigar store ship ’em to you.
I’ll match you on the booze.
Crickets from Jeffie. Guess he took his ball and went home. Or he’s busy scrubbing those 2700+ photos from Facebook.
Or the balls are in his mouth and thus preventing him from speaking.