J Max Taylor; aka Ice Man, the Vietnam War phony

J Max Taylor

So there’s this secret squirrel dude J. Max Taylor, aka Johnny Max Taylor, code named “Ice Man”, tells the fanciful story about his tour of duty in Southeast Asia in “black ops”, of course, he explains in the video below that the military erased his records and he vanished as the military James Bond-type dude crawling on his belly and killing Viet Cong like crazy. So here’s his FOIA and his 2-1s;

J Max Taylor FOIA

J Max Taylor 2-1a

J Max Taylor 2-1b

No Vietnam service records, and he’s assigned to the Headquarters Company of the 8th Corps in Korea at G2 when he claims that he was in Vietnam. he did end up in Germany, where it looks like he was injured towards the end of his service. His job was on a “MUX team”. A MUX according to wiki is a Multiplexer;

An electronic multiplexer makes it possible for several signals to share one device or resource, for example one A/D converter or one communication line, instead of having one device per input signal.

He claims that he was fighting terrorists in the late 70s and that’s how he was injured. You know, even though there’s nothing in his records that would indicate that he had any special training and he was assigned to a Signal Company, which we all know is full of snipers and terrorist-killing folks.

But, he’s selling a book “Inside the World of Mirrors; the Story of a Shadow Warrior”, but I think the mirrors are in his head and anyone stupid enough believe this crap.

But you can listen to his wild-ass tale at this video, and he’ll tell you why the records we have aren’t accurate. Ice Man kills me (skip to about the 2 minute mark to get past the BS commercials);

There’s more at Scotty’s place.

Comments

111 responses to “J Max Taylor; aka Ice Man, the Vietnam War phony”

  1. Scotty

    Airborne qualified , Sniper qualified. But that is all blacked out on his FOIA. Because that’s what Black opts mean.
    What a freaking moron !

    1. Green Thumb

      Two-hole qualified is more like it.

  2. SJ

    “Legion of Mert”? On the FOIA form.

    1. Green Thumb

      Legion of Merit(s) are given to senior officers.

      1. darrell elmore

        I know of several legion of merits that went to enlisted soldiers. One was a on the spot award from a general officer to a soldier for doing a specific action. I was surprised when I saw it on the guys uniform (he was a warrent officer at the time) and he explained when and how he got it. It was legitimate. However most are to field grade officers and flag rank officers.

  3. Club Manager

    WTF: The FOIA shows he received the Legion of Merit Medal??? They also spelled Medal incorrectly below that.

  4. Pineywoods NCO

    Great.

    A Legion of Merit recipient. A Signal Soldier. And now, a disgrace to both and the military as a whole.

    Hangs and shakes head in disgust.

    1. Edwin Galloway

      you nailed it….

  5. JarHead Pat

    Fuck me,I could only take about 5 min of his utter bullshit,what a cunt giblet.He needs to have his ass kicked,they take a black felt pen and wipe out your records omg hahahahah.

  6. Mike

    They first start talking about the lack of truth in society.

  7. Pinto Nag

    It is both sad and fascinating to consider the moment that a person made the CHOICE to drag their honorable service through the mud of dishonor to become a poser.

  8. SFC D

    Tossing a big bullshit flag here. I was 24 years Signal Corps, a good portion of it as a 31M. I saw exactly 1 Legion of Merit awarded, and that was a retirement award for a CSM with 30 years. Something is amiss with that FOIA. It’s a full of BS as he is.

  9. HS Sophomore

    Yep. There really isn’t much truth in the world.

  10. Enigma4you

    Um… the FOIA has him going back in time in 1977
    8 September 1977 to 6 February 1977

    He must have been involved in some real deep doo doo

    1. 68W58

      Steinbrenner sent him back in time to carry out the Son of Sam killings to distract the media from the Yankee’s clubhouse turmoil. It worked and the Bronx Bombers won the 1977 World Series so Steinbrenner got him the LOM.

      See-there’s a simple and logical explanation for everything.

      1. HMCS(FMF) ret

        Dude know how to split atoms… WITH HIS MIND!

  11. Enigma4you

    It List him as Retired, 4 years ???

    1. EdUSMCleg

      Sure. I was in 8 years 4 months and am retired. Medical retirement.

    2. CLAW131

      E4y, it was undoubtedly a Medical Retirement. He did spend his last five months in the Army as a patient at Walter Reed. And, Mr. Taylor, just to let you know if you are reading this, you and I share the same GT score from the ASVAB and I don’t believe a word of your “story”

  12. FatCircles0311

    Military education: Code of Conduct

    Fail.

  13. Sapper3307

    OMFG! Da shit is getting deep.

  14. Mr Wolf

    Will somebody contact Mike Rowe? Da shit is gettin’ nasty around here…

  15. charles w

    I was a 31v assigned to an MP company. We had a guy nicknamed Sparky, destroyer of radios. I would put him up against Ice Man.

  16. rgr1480

    I still can’t get over the fact an E5 sergeant received a Legion of Merit with no prior Meriorious Service Medal. Seriously, whatever he’s not telling the truth about (or is) … he must have done something really hot shit to warrant the LoM. Quite possibly a (medical?) retirement award?? Must have done something special!!

    I would’ve killed for an LoM!

    1. There’s no Legion of Merit on his 2-1, so he probably Rieckhoffed the clerk who was typing his DD214.

      1. rgr1480

        Owch!

        1. Green Thumb

          Word has it that he is working for Commander Phil Monkress at All-Points Logistics as their VP of Public Relations.

    2. CLAW131

      rgr 1480, you need to remember that back in this time frame we Army types were allowed to hand carry our 201 files upon PCS. Access to forms/typewriter by a knowledgeable individual (and an S-1 buddy)and you can figure out the “Rest of the Story”

  17. nbcguy54

    It shows he had to go back through Basic also. back in the day I know that if you had a complete break of service of 5 years or more, then you had to go again, but he only had 4 years. These 2-1s are ate up.

    We know he is full of shit, but the FOIA stuff sure doesn’t help our cause any….

  18. Mike

    I’m probably late on this but here’s his site.

    http://jmaxtaylor.wordpress.com/

    1. charles w

      Wow.

      1. Green Thumb

        The “Ice Turd”.

      2. Mike

        Was that your experience as a 31v also?

        Maybe you didn’t score in the top 3% of the world like he did. LULZ

        1. charles w

          Almost. I still can’t talk about the “Antenna Incident”.

          1. Mike

            That might be a good thing haha

            1. charles w

              I am still scarred to this day. Maybe I will write a book and see if I can get a movie deal. At least a video game.

              1. Hack Stone

                Why do I have the feeling that your story revolves around erecting a field antenna in the immediate vicinity of overhead power lines? We lost a few Marines in 29 Palms that back in the early 1990s.

                1. charles w

                  Nothing that bad. It involved Privates with too much time on their hands.

                2. SJ

                  When I was in the Pentagon we got a report from an O6 in Germany who was field testing a new antenna mast for the 292’s. He wove into the report that “female soldiers had trouble with 50′ erections”. He was proud of that.

    2. Green Thumb

      The “Ice Turd” is wiping posts on his site.

      1. charles w

        You got to read his twitter. This guy is freaking epic.

        1. Green Thumb

          Yeah.

          Top grade Turd. Zero defects.

    3. Michael

      One of the comments for the book says, “I loved your book, Max. I also learned a lot. Losing a brother in Vietnam made it even more poignant for me. Thank you for your service.”

      But hey, stolen valor is a victimless crime isn’t it?

  19. SJ

    In my era, LOM was an O6 retirement award. I knew only one O5 who got one: my bro.

    I think some E8/9’s got them too.

    Nary an E5.

  20. Green Thumb

    I wonder if he and “Ranger” Burrell graduated from the same MFA program?

  21. streetsweeper

    YO! Holy f’ng *batshit*!! I’ll bet it was the “jungle radio school” at Gordon that did it to him. Listening to those taped convo’s and practicing to be a intel analist (see?) done took him by the nap of his neck and drug his ass back to 1960 something Vietnam.

    Wait, wait, wait…the NCO Club was prolly out of cold beer, pretzels and chips, so he caught a ride into Augusta to go drink at the White Stallion. Yea…man. That’s it!

    1. A Proud Infidel®™

      Hell, I’m surprised he didn’t spend the night with some Oriental Dominatrix and call himself a POW because of it!!

      1. streetsweeper

        Nah…that happened out at the recreational lake. Lotta small pines around there to play in, lol.

  22. streetsweeper

    Yo, Scotty…TWO phonies with one shot! You done purdy good for a Marine. Just saying, everybody read that link below. 😎

    http://jmaxtaylor.wordpress.com/2014/04/22/echoes-from-the-past/

    1. GDContractor

      “then Panama for 4 weeks of Sniper school training.” about sums it up.

      1. streetsweeper

        😉

  23. LebbenB

    I don’t care what he says, my ops are blacker than his.

    And I agree, his FOIA asks more questions than it answers.

  24. streetsweeper

    Actually that FOIA is easy to read…FT. Gordon for sig school, then off to conduct black op’s in GERMANY (Wish i coulda gone there) BUT! He got to close to the Russians on the eastern front and they shipped him back in time to Vietnam. 🙂

    1. AbnGramps82

      Black OPS in Germany??? Isn’t he the guy who rescued those guys in the movie “Stripes”? Yeah, that’s the ticket..I was driving the EM-50…no wait..I built the EM-50…..

      1. LebbenB

        “What we have here, is one heavily armed recreational vehicle.”

  25. GDContractor

    “Proceeds from Inside the World of Mirrors benefit The Arizona American Legion, an organization author J. Max Taylor is heavily involved in, for use in the Vets Helping Vets program.” http://jmaxtaylor.wordpress.com/donations/

  26. GDContractor

    An appology to all my readers ! ! !
    Posted on May 5, 2014 by jmaxtaylor

    I was putting together a set of visuals for my speaking engagements on my book “Inside the World of Mirrors – The Story of a Shadow Warrior”. I wanted to get a map showing the operational areas and the base at Nakhon Phanom. I kept getting a map of Thailand. It took several tries for it to sink in. Nakhon Phanom was not in Cambodia. It was in Thailand.
    I had been lied to about where I was. It was no wonder that I was never kept at Nakhon Phanom after a mission, but was immediately flown out to Korea. They knew if I stayed there I would discover the lie.
    After all the missions were long over many years ago, I now find out that I had been lied to about where I was. It was only one more instance where I was lied to, either intentionally, or by the omission of important information.
    I am deeply embarrassed by what I have told the many readers of “Inside the World of Mirrors”! It was not intentional on my part. I should have known better than to take anything I was told at face value. It was no wonder that it took hours to get to a mission LZ. It now makes complete sense why the helicopters all had additional fuel tanks. It now makes the small number of team members for any mission understandable. I am publishing this on this web site, and on facebook. I will also contact each of my followers on twitter to have them check this notification out.
    Some things just don’t make sense. Why would they lie to me about where I was? That was a silly question. I should have thought about why they always seemed to leave out important information.
    It is just further proof of my references in my book about the strange facts and circumstances that I kept coming up against for so many years. They would not even tell the people doing the work a simple truth. It is no wonder that so many died. We were working in the blind all the time.
    My sincere apologies to all my readers for my mistake of believing anything that I was told.,/blockquote> http://jmaxtaylor.wordpress.com/2014/05/05/an-appology-to-all-my-readers/

    1. GDContractor

      Meh…. I would have just used the “I had AML3 Cancer and I didn’t know what I was saying” defense, but I am no PhD.

      1. GDContractor

        E. B. Travers bent him over pretty good LOL.

    2. charles w

      They lied to him because he wasn’t there. Its a secret.

    3. Mr. Blue

      Translation: He once went to Thailand, got really wasted, and woke up entwined with a couple of ladyboys.

    4. LebbenB

      Sounds like the plot to a Metal Gear Solid game.

      What a loser.

  27. Valkyrie

    Ugh! I just drug my fever addled body from bed to mark all the reviews praising his book as “no, review was not helpful” and clicked “yes” on all the negative ones. That’s all I can offer now.

    Jonn you should write a book titled “something that plays off the title of the phoney’s book but I am to sick to think of anything clever or witty. Use your own clever or witty imagination”.

    Btw that name “Ice Man” is already taken by a mafia hit man. He wasn’t even cool enough to come up with his own nickname. He’s not only guilty of Stolen Valor but stolen nickname coolness also.

    Peace! I’m out.

    1. charles w

      And the movie Top Gun.

  28. Beretverde

    Another phucking phoney. He could have gone to Vietnam if he really wanted to… but went to Korea instead. Now home safe and happy…he says he served in Vietnam as a quick killing machine. Pisses me off.

    In EVERY school in the Army the class should start off that the Airborne, Rangers and Special Forces are hiring. Always have, always will be. No phucking excuse from these clowns.

  29. Open Channel D

    Although I have 30+ years in the Navy, I did 4 years at Tripler AMC. I saw a number of E-7’s get LOM’s as retirement awards. It doesn’t surprise that it’s POSSIBLE than an Army E-5 got an LOM, it just surprises me that this guy did.

    1. B Woodman

      That’s Crippler AMC.
      There. Fixed it for ya.

      1. Twist

        Isn’t that the same hospital that once operated on the wrong knee of a guy? That was the rumor when I was stationed in Hawaii.

        1. Green Thumb

          Among other things.

  30. 2/17 Air Cav

    I made it, oh, about 10 seconds into J(eneral) Maxwell Taylor’s story. How did we get this far into the comments w/o anyone pointing out that the J(eneral) is being interviewed by a guy named KLutz?

  31. His book is listed on Amazon.com

    If you have the chance, feel free to go over there and sign up. When you do, you can leave a review of his “book” and also comment on other folk’s reviews.

    Seems like a good chance to set the record straight to those poor fools who bought his book and are “looking forward to other stories” by him.

    File under “fiction” and “fucknugget”.

    1. streetsweeper

      LMAO!

  32. CLAW131

    With this coming Saturday being Armed Forces Day, it’s probably too much to hope he’s setting up a “Book Signing Booth” somewhere to take advantage of the increased military traffic on that day. Unfortunately, no mention of that on his Facebook/web site. Would be nice to pay him a visit.

  33. Jorge, did you ever get that NUC?

    And here I thought we’d all get Silver Stars and shit 25 years after the fact.

    1. Jorge

      Yup, about 15 years later!

  34. A Proud Infidel®

    Maybe one day he’ll tell us about his sooperdooperseekritsqwirrel missions out of his underground base camp at Pho Née Phuk?

    1. Green Thumb

      This dude can blow my SnoCone.

    2. HMCS(FMF) ret

      Probably love slurping down some of that Cream of Sum Yun Guy waiting for his missions into “the shit”.

      1. A Proud Infidel®

        …While he’s at a gay brothel in Al Phuk Tup!

  35. jonp

    IDK, I was in Signal and our company was full of heart breakers aND life takers. During black ops of course none of which are in my records for obvious reasons.

  36. Mr. Blue

    I’m sure that DuLlAsS, Crash, and Frankie can all back him up

  37. GoldenDragon

    Lying ass, POG.

  38. LebbenB

    LOL…He “ran ops” out of Korea and into Viet Nam. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

    Let me guess – His planning cell was the Navy Club in Yongsan or Polly’s Kettle House over in Itaewon.

    1. Geetwillickers

      Haha! Polly’s Kettle House! I ran some black ops out of there in my day! And by black, I mean that’s what I remember about them after the third or fourth kettle…

      1. ChipNASA

        Wow…I spent my time at Osan in 1986 briefly…. Wish I knew about Itaewon.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQrRbnvzVrU

        1. Retired Master

          I ran ops out of Osan in 73-74. The Aragon club and Five Spot were my headquarters. Had to run missions outside the gate at Osan AB //

        2. Geetwillickers

          Holy Crap that brings back some (fuzzy) memories!

        3. A Proud Infidel®™

          Itaewon? *WHOOP!* THAT was MY FAVORITE destination when I got a Warrior Pass on a weekend!!

          1. A Proud Infidel®™

            My liver STILL has seizures in fear any time I even think of all the Soju I drank on that tour!

            1. LebbenB

              To paraphrase Hunter S. Thompson, there’s nothing more depraved than a man in the depths of a Soju binge.

  39. Martinjmpr

    Wasn’t “Ice Man” the one in “Top Gun” who told “Maverick” (Tom Cruise) that “You can ride my tail anytime you like?”

    Gayest. Line. Ever.

    😀

    1. HMCS(FMF) ret

      It ain’t gay if it’s underway.

      It ain’t queer if it’s at the pier.

      If it’s Tom Cruise saying it… it’s gotta be one of the above

      1. Green Thumb

        I always though Slider was the two-hole bandit.

        I bet the Iceman here would know.

  40. Maddie

    I must have been Black Ops in a career I was unaware of. I am getting ready for retirement and finding out its hell to get copies of 214’s.

    So hey, he could be telling the truth. 🙂

    1. 2/17 Air Cav

      You too, Maddie? I spent 35 years in service. Alas, after my intial hitch, I was erased. I simply did not exist on any records anywhere, least of all in the philes, as we called them. That’s really all that I can say about it. I wonder how many of us there are. In my nonexistent group, each of us swore to kill any member who attempted or effected contact with another group member outside of a mission. And that explains why we ac never have a reunion.

      1. Maddie

        rofl, we are not prone to violence in combat comm, just laziness. 🙂

      2. OWB

        Yep. ‘Splains also why so many were on food stamps. When we were “erased,” the paycheck stopped and we were on our own again.

        Why would anyone begrudge us the wearing of some imaginary medals and stuff?

  41. 2/17 Air Cav

    I guess I can share this, too. Each month, I get an anonymous message telling me where to find the bops pension money. The medium and method vary from month to month. Sometimes it’s a call, an email, or a note left on my windshield. Last month’s contact was rather unusual. My doctor’s office called to confirm my appointment there and just as we were about to hang up, Mary (the receptioist) said, “Oh, I was told to tell you it’s under second base at the Little League field nearest your domicile.”

    1. Martinjmpr

      Yeah, I’m calling BS on that. If you were REAL Black Ops they would have implanted a microchip in your brain and sent you signals by radio using reruns of “Gilligans Island” to carry the message.

  42. CLAW131

    OK, Folks, I have it on good authority that this guy J Max Taylor and Forrest Gump are interchangeable in every way, shape, and form. In reality, Taylor’s military service is what Forrest was doing for the Army after Vietnam instead of being on The All American Ping Pong Team. It’s just that the scenes of his life ended up on the cutting room floor and were deleted from the movie. See, figured it out for you.

  43. ArmyATC

    Anyone, and everyone, should go to his site and post reviews of his lies.

    http://jmaxtaylor.wordpress.com/2013/05/31/my-battle-with-ptsd/

    1. Hack Stone

      The publisher of this literary masterpiece is a company named Authorhouse. Is anyone surprised that is a vanity press (You pay; We publish)?

      1. streetsweeper

        Wait….wait. He paid them to publish his true life adventure book? Lemme see here…counting on my toes and fingers the ways I could profit offa his junk were I to charge him.

        Sum is! *zero* File it under make believe and call it a day, troops! lol

    2. streetsweeper

      I see nobody has tried yet OR somebody has and he is deleting comments…Hehehe!

      1. ArmyATC

        He’s started moderating comments. Several of mine are “awaiting moderation.”

  44. ArmyATC

    His FB page is still open. Anyone can make comments on it. I say go over and let him now what you think.

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/J-Max-Taylor/470084949731078

  45. HMCS(FMF) ret

    Taylor and Burrell must have had the same “handler”, if you know what I mean…