NBC4 New York City took the opportunity that Esteban Santiago, a Puerto Rico National Guardsman, shot people in Ft Lauderdale last week to highlight 11 incidents of veterans and eleven “high profile mass shootings” over the last twenty-five years. Yes, eleven incidents in twenty-five years deserves scrutiny.
Some of the veterans listed in the slide show were deployed to war, but most weren’t. The ones who did deploy weren’t in military occupational specialties that would have trained them in their nefarious endeavors.
They include Nidal Hasan without mentioning that he was actually a terrorist on a jihad at Fort Hood, Texas on November 5, 2009. In fact I wonder if they have a slide show for folks that singles out mass shooters of the jihadist variety.
The list includes Micah Johnson, who even the New York Times admits “had an affinity for Black Power organizations”.
Wade Michael Page was dishonorably discharged for being a racist more than ten years before his crime, but he makes the list for shooting Sikhs at their temple. Aaron Alexis, the Navy Yard shooter is on the list, but he had his military career cut short because of his mental problems, again several years before he committed his act.
Regardless, eleven incidents in twenty-five years is not an epidemic – nothing more than click-bait for low-information voters.

But, unfortunately, many of those from the state of my birth, mostly those from “Da City”, will just gobble this shit up.
Just for shits and grins…I’d like to see the numbers of Active Duty and Veteran members who STOPPED shooting situations.
That would be great Jay, but you know they never report on those kind of stories??
Shhhhh…Larsie is still wiping the sleepies out of his eyes.
And you know that you just can’t go against the anti-gun agenda.
I bet he’s trying to start a protest demonstration from a “safe space” because his college cafeteria was out of Froot Loops and Lucky Charms this morning!
They make shit like this up to make us look like we Vets are a problem while cities like NYC and Chicago call themselves “Sanctuary Cities” and harboring criminals from Law Enforcement, further proof that LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER.
Speaking of mental disorders, there are already FB and GoFundMe pages trying to support the perps in Chicago.
Yeah. The perps. No shit. There’s even one claiming the victim called them a racial slur and that teh PTSD made all 4 of them do what they did.
I wish I was kidding.
Dear Lord … that is just sick …
I have no doubt they’re being run by the same variety of candyassed snot-headed libs that refer to criminals as “Victims of Society” and shit like that.
Proud, we vets ARE the problem – at the ballot box.
Yep! Maybe that’s one reason why B. Hussein 0bama & Company have done all they can to take what they can from us Vets and hand it out to illegal aliens, welfare flunkies and “refugees” long with getting rid of Voter ID laws.
This sort of reporting besmirches Veterans and those now in uniform. It also serves to make those in blue havens such as NYC feel better about the fact that because they never served, they are free of any guilt by association. If these hacks were truly interested in finding the elusive common denominator for these crazed killings, they are more likely to find one in the type of car the nuts drove or whether they attended private or public school. The exception, of course, is the glaring common denominator for the terrorist types. It’s their religion, but that’s too sensitive to point out.
Seems to me that the New Yawkies are trying to paint all veterans with the same brush, because they want the 1960s back, or something.
I guess they didn’t do a survey of how many LEOs who don’t do stupid things are ex-military, too. That would spoil their disinformation racket no end.
If you are looking for a way to slam a population group, you do cherry-picking like this. Maybe someone should look into the useless lives of the people at NBC New Yawk who came up with this crap.
Given New York’s prior, and Chicago’s current, crime rates, you could probably make a pretty good case that civilians are the problem. 11 incidents over 25 years among the vet population… probably get higher numbers from Chicago last weekend.
Think about what an infinitesimally small percentage eleven perpetrators constitute out of the total veteran population of tens of millions over a period of 25 years. Those assholes went searching for the proverbial needle in the haystack and happened to find it. I hope the vets out here ram that sucker right through their journalistic thumb.
Left hand of course…
Well, Poetrooper, lumping all members of a population demographic into the same negative stereotype, based on the misbehavior of a few, is something that seems to be a common thread these days.
Why not do the same thing with African Americans or Latinos involved in street gangs? See, that would throw off their results and blow a massive hole in their conclusions. It would also make them into racists.
Maybe we could do a little bit of research and come up with the common theme that members of the media are 92% prejudiced against anyone remotely connected to the military and have been since the Civil War, or something.
What’s good for the goose is good for the gander, isn’t it?
Those “ticking timebomb” veterans, you know… (Thanks, liberals. You suck.)
A handful of guys with association to the US armed forces kill people. The media portray vets as ticking time bombs, “something needs to be done”.
A whole bunch of folks with association to a particular fanatic flavor of belief system kill a whole bunch of folks, over and over and over again. The media cautions us not to rush to judgement “Don’t profile! Don’t be a hater!”.
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At some point, “stupidity” is an insufficient answer. Once has to recognize that they see themselves as co-belligerents in the effort to overthrow and destroy Western Civilization, to replace it with one they prefer. The really sad part is that the Stupids think that once Civilization goes down, they will tame their co-belligerents, versus serving them as slaves.
What was the MOS of the Fort Lauderdale shooter? I have not seen any mention of it in the news, which tells me he was probably a carpenter like the Dallas shooter.
I believe he was a Combat Engineer and had received a CAB.
Semper Fi I’m a Marine Corps Vietnam vet,yes I own guns. If you look at the facts military service members and vet’s rarely cause problems with weapons,we have all been trained on there proper use. Look at the crimes and accidents that non military folks do, the numbers speak for themselves. We have all served our country and some of us continue to serve even after release from the military.
Re the four yuts who tortured the poor man while displaying their hatred for White people, Dr. Drew made the following two quotes:
In a video on TMZ, he says: ‘I had a very strange reaction where I felt bad for the kids perpetrating it, I really felt horrible for them.’
and
‘Their lives are going to be over, we’ve failed them, we have failed them.’
Those are direct quotes, available on Google for all to see. Well, ‘we’ didn’t fail them, at least “I” didn’t. I’m thinking the failure started in their home and extended into the community. I certainly did nothing to fail them. Already the maneuvering is underway to blame everyone except the scum who committed the atrocity. Seems legit.
Really? Hmm, that’s weird. I felt horror at what they were doing, disgust that they did it to someone unusually vulnerable and incapable of defending himself, a profound wish that someone would kick the door in with a shotgun and rescue the victim, despair that that wasn’t happening, a burning–if futile–desire to see the four racist fucks in my rifle sights, and a righteous hatred of four parasitic cocksucking cowards who perpetrated the atrocity. I don’t pity them for choosing to commit an abomination.
Dr. Drew can go fuck himself. I’d love to hear Adam Carrolla’s reaction to this.
When that guy in South Carolina with the funny name killed 9 black people in a church nobody from the right tried to justified his crime. On the contrary, I remember clearly everybody called for the full weight of the law to fall on him.
No imagine if any of us had said about him what Dr Drew, whoever the hell he is, said about hese 4 yuts that tortured that poor guy.
Double standards is the least of it. The complete corruption and immorality of the progressive left is what I see here. Clear as day for all to see.
Don’t know Dr. Drew is but nobody I know supports what those 4 did. So what are your double standards but to talk shit up here about it. Yes I’m black and I hope they go to prison for a long time as for the guy in S.C. he said he wasn’t sorry, so it might be prison but they are looking for the death penalty for him.
Chief, the failure didn’t start in their homes, it started in their culture, a failed culture that continues to exist solely for the reason that it is a useful political tool for Democrats. Poor blacks are such fools for not realizing they are being totally exploited by the Democrats in general and by their Black Democrat leaders in particular. Black criminality exists on its present scale because the Liberals need it so that they can point at those of us who denounce it and scream, “Racists!”
then there is the clown who says every white should maintain an IRA, an “Individual Reparations Account.” Me, I already have one… I contribute proportionately every day as much as I have ever oppressed or enslaved anyone of any race. 0=0.
Ditto that, NONE of them are entitled to any part of what I’ve worked my ass off for all my adult life.
I wonder how many professional journalists committed sex crimes of some kind in that same period of time. I’m guessing there’d be a bit more than twenty-five incidents. Not because journalists are inherently rapists or pedophiles, just because that’s a very big sample size over a very long period of time. In other words, it means nothing. Jack shit.
But that’s the left for ya. Last night, one of the guys on my crew insisted on watching the Golden Globe awards. Personally, I find Hollywood’s various mutual-admiration societies to be less useful than tits on a boar hog and less entertaining than watching paint dry, and I really hated having to listen to them pretend to be moved to tears over who got what–seriously, several people who I know are actually good at acting were less convincing than the average internet pornstar. Then listening to them gush ad nauseam about eachother. I swear to God, I was thinking about taking an axe to the TV if I had to hear Viola Davis say one more word about “Dame Streep.” And Meryl Streep herself didn’t miss the opportunity to shill as much left-wing rhetoric as possible, fucking sanctimonious cunt (still remember how she wants to make gun owners “wish they were never born”). And they kept plugging the “Hollywood Foreign Press Association,” whatever the hell that is.
Afterwards, I was told that the real reason they watched it was because my running commentary (which naturally included a lot of “fuck off”‘s) was entertaining.
Look at the number of TSA pukes busted for kiddie pr0n and one could make a statement calling for the abolishment of that living abortion of a bureaucracy
Whitey, I think one member on your crew maybe should have been told to go watch the effin’ Globes on his phone in the head.
if its of any interest….
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyclay/2013/01/05/the-top-10-jobs-that-attract-psychopaths/#316a2dd373c3
The fields with the most?
1. CEO
2. Lawyer
3. Media (Television/Radio)
4. Salesperson
5. Surgeon
6. Journalist
7. Police officer
8. Clergy person
9. Chef
10. Civil servant
Journalist comes in at #6…..members of the Armed Forces didn’t even break into the top 10.
The jobs with the least?
1. Care aide
2. Nurse
3. Therapist
4. Craftsperson
5. Beautician/Stylist
6. Charity worker
7. Teacher
8. Creative artist
9. Doctor
10. Accountant
Definition of a psychopath:
http://johnnyoptimism.blogspot.com/2017/01/psychopath.html
yeah, that ticking time bomb damaged Army Vet was taking on the alias Aashiq Hammad and posting Facebook videos praising Allah 3 years before joining the military but I bet that has nothing to do with it.
Funny how Esteban adopting a Muslim name and reciting the Shahada isn’t important now.
An article in yesterday’s Mpls. Star and Sickle said the shooter was a “private” and “decorated”. I doubt he was a private, unless he got busted before discharge.
I guess the three ribbons and one unit citation I wore upon my discharge made me “decorated”.
I read the same article in the Mpls “Red Star”….makes me wonder why larger papers have no military staff writer…..or someone with an understanding of the military.
According to a Breitbart article he was in Guard units (first Puerto Rico, then Alaska) 9 years before getting discharged as a PFC. One year in Iraq in 2010. Army Public Affairs lists an ARCOM, GCM, NDSM, IRaq service medal, GWOT, and several less ‘prestigious’ awards than the distinguished set already listed.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3254582-Private-First-Class-Esteban-Santiago-s-service.html
Kent Brockman of the Simpsons was onto this story way before the MSM:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EI-TIUycqk
I still have a copy somewhere of that Janet Napolitano sponsored Dept. of Homeland Security Report that says we ex-military veterans are a fifth column likely perpetrate terrorism against the federal government and warning LEO’s we are a serious threat. It is marked classified as FOUO, as I recall. I suppose someone will trot out that tripe soon.