On January 16, 2009 Rush Limbaugh famously said that he hopes Obama fails.
The left went nuts!
The SFGate took the first swipes. Think Progress and the HuffPo jumped in quickly. The Seattle Times called him a “Disloyal Clown”.
So “hoping” the president fails is disloyal, un-American or even treasonous?
Then what is actively assuring his failure through partisan legislation?
Who will be first in the media to call the entire Democrat caucus “disloyal”? Not for “hoping” Obama will fail but practically guaranteeing it?
there is some logic gap here. I really wish Liberals would be consistent with their message, desires and wants. Sadly I think 90% of them are as fickle as a 5 year old.
Furthermore, when will House Democrats be labeled “racist” for opposing Teh One?
Paging Janeanne Garofalo, Michael Moore and Jack Cafferty. . .
Who will be first in the media to call the entire Democrat caucus “disloyal”? Not for “hoping” Obama will fail but practically guaranteeing it?
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Well, didn’t they call their ‘dissent’ — and active undermining of the effort — with regards to the Iraq War “the highest form of patriotism”? It seems to me that simply stating that you hope the President fails is treasonous, but actively working to undermine the President is “the highest form of patriotism”.
Thus, I’m guessing they consider their work to guarantee Obama fails as “patriotism”.
See how that works?
Michael,
That tortured logic is pure brilliance!
Well, two years ago after Rush’s infamous comment, most people assumed Obama was actually a democrat. Of course now we know, having found out the hard way, he’s a big-business republican in the pocket of bankers. Thus the trend in democrats “hoping he will fail”, as you put it.
Joe,
You are stuck on stupid. Somebody had to say it.
The only person responsible for the Pied Piper’s failing is the he who stands behind policies that are ruining the Country. The only people more narcissistic than the PP, are the dems who managed to avoid the slaughter. Don’t worry, though, the rest of the sheep will be slaughtered come 2012 be they dem or rep.
Right, Joe, that’s why most Wall Street types are democrats and gave heavily to democrat candidates in 2008 and 2010. John Corzine is as “progressive” as you can get and which party did the former Goldman Sachs executive run to? How about Bill Gates, George Soros, the head of GE, etc.? Keep believing that all the money flows from and to republicans. As Defend said; you are stuck on stupid.
Joe, being part of a political party is not a genetic condition. You are not born with Republicanism or Democratitis. What Obama is, in the end, is a man who has far outstripped his level of incompetency. His political party doesn’t matter. HE JUST DOESN’T GET IT. He can’t make the right decision because he has no clue what the right decision is.
et’s see Joe.
This from the RNC, the 2008 Republican platform
On Govt reform;
“Constrain the federal government to its legitimate constitutional functions. Let it empower people, while limiting its reach into their lives. Spend only what is necessary, and tax only to raise revenue for essential government functions. Unleash the power of enterprise, innovation, civic energy, and the American spirit – and never pretend that government is a substitute for family or community….”
Hardly Obama’s stance, and neither is the rest of the Republican platform
On the economy;
“America’s free economy has given our country the world’s highest standard of living and allows us to share our prosperity with the rest of humanity. It is an engine of charity, empowering everything from Sabbath collection plate to great endowments. It creates opportunity, rewards self-reliance and hard work, and unleashes productive energies that other societies can only imagine.
Today, our economy faces challenges due to high energy costs. Our task is to strengthen our economy and build a greater degree of security – in availability of jobs, in accessibility of health care, in portability of pensions, and in affordability of energy. That is an urgent task because economic freedom – and the prosperity it makes possible – are not ends in themselves. They are means by which families and individuals can maintain their independence from government, raise their children by their own values, and build communities of self-reliant neighbors.
Economic freedom expands the prosperity pie; government can only divide it up. That is why Republicans advocate lower taxes, reasonable regulation, and smaller, smarter government. That agenda translates to more opportunity for more people. It represents the economics of inclusion, the path by which hopes become achievements. It is the way we will reach our goal of enabling everyone to have a chance to own, invest, and build. ….“
Also hardly Obama’s stance
On Education;
“…….Parents should be able to decide the learning environment that is best for their child. We support choice in education for all families, especially those with children trapped in dangerous and failing schools, whether through charter schools, vouchers or tax credits for attending faith-based or other non-public schools, or the option of home schooling. We call for the vigilant enforcement of laws designed to protect family rights and privacy in education. We will energetically assert the right of students to engage in voluntary prayer in schools and to have equal access to school facilities for religious purposes. We renew our call for replacing “family planning” programs for teens with increased funding for abstinence education, which teaches abstinence until marriage as the responsible and expected standard of behavior. Abstinence from sexual activity is the only protection that is 100 percent effective against out-of-wedlock pregnancies and sexually transmitted diseases, including HIV/AIDS when transmitted sexually. We oppose school-based clinics that provide referrals, counseling, and related services for abortion and contraception. Schools should not ask children to answer offensive or intrusive personal non-academic questionnaires without parental consent. It is not the role of the teacher or school administration to recommend or require the use of psychotropic medications that must be prescribed by a physician……”
Nope, still not Obama’s stance
On National values;
‘…Upholding the Constitutional Right to Keep and Bear Arms
We uphold the right of individual Americans to own firearms, a right which antedated the Constitution and was solemnly confirmed by the Second Amendment. We applaud the Supreme Court’s decision in Heller affirming that right, and we assert the individual responsibility to safely use and store firearms. We call on the next president to appoint judges who will similarly respect the Constitution. Gun ownership is responsible citizenship, enabling Americans to defend themselves, their property, and communities….
… Ensuring Equal Treatment for All
Precisely because we oppose discrimination, we reject preferences, quotas, and set-asides, whether in education or in corporate boardrooms. The government should not make contracts on this basis, and neither should corporations. We support efforts to help low-income individuals get a fair shot based on their potential and merit, and we affirm the common-sense approach of the Chief Justice of the United States: that the way to stop discriminating on the basis of race is to stop discriminating…
… Protecting Our National Symbols
The symbol of our unity, to which we all pledge allegiance, is the flag. By whatever legislative method is most feasible, Old Glory should be given legal protection against desecration. We condemn decisions by activist judges to deny children the opportunity to say the Pledge of Allegiance in public school…
… Freedom of Speech and of the Press
We support freedom of speech and freedom of the press and oppose attempts to violate or weaken those rights, such as reinstatement of the so-called Fairness Doctrine.
… Maintaining The Sanctity and Dignity of Human Life
Faithful to the first guarantee of the Declaration of Independence, we assert the inherent dignity and sanctity of all human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution, and we endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children. We oppose using public revenues to promote or perform abortion and will not fund organizations which advocate it. We support the appointment of judges who respect traditional family values and the sanctity and dignity of innocent human life…
… Preserving Traditional Marriage
Because our children’s future is best preserved within the traditional understanding of marriage, we call for a constitutional amendment that fully protects marriage as a union of a man and a woman, so that judges cannot make other arrangements equivalent to it. In the absence of a national amendment, we support the right of the people of the various states to affirm traditional marriage through state initiatives…
… Safeguarding Religious Liberties
Our Constitution guarantees the free exercise of religion and forbids any religious test for public office, and it likewise prohibits the establishment of a state-sponsored creed. The balance between those two ideals has been distorted by judicial rulings which attempt to drive faith out of the public arena. The public display of the Ten Commandments does not violate the U.S. Constitution and accurately reflects the Judeo-Christian heritage of our country. We support the right of students to engage in student-initiated, student-led prayer in public schools, athletic events, and graduation ceremonies, when done in conformity with constitutional standards…
…Preserving Americans’ Property Rights
At the center of a free economy is the right of citizens to be secure in their property. Every person has the right to acquire, own, use, possess, enjoy, and dispose of private property. That right was undermined by the Supreme Court’s Kelo decision, allowing local governments to seize a person’s home or land, not for vital public use, but for transfer to private developers. That 5-to-4 decision highlights what is at stake in the election of the next president, who may make new appointments to the Court. We call on state legislatures to moot the Kelo decision by appropriate legislation, and we pledge on the federal level to pass legislation to protect against unjust federal takings. We will enforce the Takings Clause of the Fifth Amendment to ensure just compensation whenever private property is needed to achieve a compelling public use. We urge caution in the designation of National Historic Areas, which can set the stage for widespread governmental control of citizens’ lands….”
Sorry, still not seeing that closet Republican in Obama. Perhaps you can show me where I’m wrong Joe?
Joe is a professional troll. Someone smarter than me once said that having a discussion with a troll is like wrestling a pig in its pen, with the usual predictable result. No so! I’d say, often the pig becomes bacon. But Joe is just a ham.
The current spate of histrionics on the part of the professional Left is pure obscuration smoke. The Left doesn’t hate the rich – they ARE the rich. Looking at the dollars contributed by rich folks over the last four election cycles shows the rich are very much on board. First they were hippies, then they were Yippies, then they were Yuppies, now they claim the Guilties. The arguments for increasing the tax rates to that of the Clintonian era (just under 40%) just do not make sense. Even Limbaugh’s assertion that the Democrats are just whining about the cash not being there for some of their pet programs doesn’t make sense: when has a Democrat ever said no to deficit spending?
What’s at work here, and why we see so many rich folks, like Warren Buffett, calling for increased taxes on the top two percent of income-earners is that increased taxation, and all that goes with it (tax forms and legalities) is enough to shut down economic competition. A raise to the tax rates, taken in combination with the individual mandate for insurance coverage (Obamacare), changes to how taxation is administered, rising food and fuel prices, and the projected economy (same as today’s economy) is enough to shut down the majority of entrepreneurs just starting up, or having hit a hard patch. Only large business entities, headed by extremely well-paid people, can absorb the costs and administrivia. Rich folks don’t like competition. America is filled with stories of folks who became fabulously wealthy, only to have that wealth completely dissipated within a generation.
Seeing the likes of MSNBC punk the POTUS may seem like blue on blue fratricide, but it’s really just a smoke screen.
you know what I think about the Rich getting to keep more of their money? Good for them. Why do the Democrats hate successful people so much? this is an actual honest question.
Joey…as my old Granny used to say…a conservative is nothing more than a liberal who has been mugged…get a life my precious little one…
Hey, Joey…. Feeling the love yet?
You went from telling us that Owebowma was a mere “centrist” to not quite a socialist, to a Republican? You really need to update your scorecard. And, aren’t most bankers, at the least, closet dems?
DaveO is right, the left don’t hate the rich, they ARE the rich. Gates, Soros, Buffet, Turner. I doubt that any of them voted other than a straight party ticket, and the pic at the top of the ticket was that of a jackass.
Do any other old army hands have issue with the Red Vs Blue analogy? Hearing about “red” states or “blue” states, its like I’m back on an FTX and I’m getting ready to assault the “Red” force.
Historical note: the election of 1824, was very similar in a way to the 2000 election. It was bitter and VERY close. Andrew Jackson and his Democrats Vs John Quincey Adams (Federalist? its kind of hard to tell in the transition between the first party ans second party systems), also Henry Clay, and William H. Crawford really mixed things up. The competition was fierce, and pretty nasty. Accusations flying back and forth. Jackson was often called an Ass. He thought it was funny, and made it the Party mascot.
I would also like to point out that the history of the Democratic party is not one to be proud of. Nixing the National Bank, screwed every one of his successors in the “Jacksonian” era. Also David Crockett was hailed by the party as a hero, but when he opposed the “trail of tears” in the House, Jackson personally took an interest in seeing he did not sit in that body again. As for being in favor of the Rich, can anyone argue that the classic example of American wealth is the Plantation Owner? Guess who THEY voted for? you know the civil rights laws? yeah REPUBLICANS passed that one. Johnson got the credit. Byrd, the long-standing senator from WV was a memeber of the KKK, and actually voted AGAINST said laws.
I really think its time people make a concerted effort to show, in reality, Dems don’t give a crap about the poor, and minorities. They are sadly easy paths to power. push through some piece of bullshit legislation to help [insert cause here] but word it in such a way that the implementation is horrifying to contemplate. Naturally if you oppose that you are [insert ism] and you hate [insert group] because you really support [insert nasty]
Its tried and sadly works. If you’re working fifteen jobs to get my and listening to the news with half an ear while fixing dinner for the kids, you’re only gonna think How could they not support [insert cause]? I mean that relates to me! I’m kinda like [insert group], and I need help. Add to that that the language bills are written in is confusing as hell if you don’t regularly read that stuff. add to that that bills are an astounding 1000 page Odyssey of legal jack assery, who actually has the time to read that? This is sadly the formula that has nearly lead us to disaster.
my solution is simple.
1). A rule on the passing of bills, that all amendments MUST BE DIRECTLY RELATED to said bill. no throwing in $30B on the Defense spending bill for “study on something I really want to create a law on but can’t find the justification.”
2). A limit to the # of pages a bill can be. the Highway creation act, which was a HUGE civil engineering project was 30 odd pages! Congress should not have the power over what type of hammer State buys to tack up their posters of self congratulations.
3). Term limits. Does anyone else find it just plain wrong that Byrd was a senator for 50 years?
4). repeal the 16th and 17th amendments. Income tax, is something that has been abused, and I think it gives Government the excuse to spend as one great American said “like drunken sailors, but that’s not fair to sailors, because they spend their own money”. What you earn, is your own to do with as you please. I don’t mind if you tax the shit out of “luxury” items like a giant boat that you try to dock in another state to avoid taxes, but I hardly make any money.
I also think the Senate should return to being “The State’s House” it puts the states directly back into the chain of command and makes the Federal government answerable to the states, sadly the reverse is true now
5). Constitutional Amendment that the Legislature MUST have a balanced budget, baring times of extreme national emergency (state or regional disasters can be dealt with on an as needed basis) or war. By war I mean DECLARED WAR.
I’m sure some liberal out there points to this and screams “AH-HA!”. This is absolute proof that I am a nutjob. Really we need to hit the brakes, and start taking a tough look at the Leviathan we have wrought.
Of course now we know, having found out the hard way, he’s a big-business republican in the pocket of bankers
Joe, you owe me a new laptop after that one! I have never spewed that much coffee out of me nose…
Doc,
I may be wrong but I think Adams was a Whig…
Old Tanker,
I won’t buy it for you, but the new MacBook Pro’s look nice…
Looks ain’t everything, Joe.
Just had to know he would suggest a mac book.
OT, well in that particular election there was no party, and it came down to regional support. He went through SEVERAL parties. but yes, i think he ended up a whig. Interestingly enough Jackson won the electorate but not enough to declare victory. This was perhaps the only time that the 12th amendment came into effect. Honestly the more i learn about it the more fascinated I become. It literally brought the country to a standstill
Yeah, Apple products are for subversive lefties….
And pretentious assholes who spend 4 times too much for what they need.
Thanks for the self-description, Joey. Confirms what we all thought.
#15 through 22 (excluding #19 Doc Bailey):
I cannot stop laughing at your banter. Yeah, it is Friday night and I am reading TAH for excitement. Heh.