Update
Senior citizen shootout: Detroit love triangle lands four in the hospital
By Charlie Langton
The Brief
Four senior citizens were shot at a Detroit apartment complex in a love triangle that turned into a violent shootout.
The shooting happened when a man in his 70s allegedly shot his romantic rival, a man in a wheelchair, at a barbecue.
The suspect was then shot by a woman in self-defense; all four people are in stable condition
DETROIT (FOX 2) – Four men and women who live at a Detroit senior citizen apartment complex are all recovering in the hospital after a love triangle that turned into a violent shootout at the apartment building.Detroit Police were called to the shooting at Sheridan Place Apartments in the 7500 block of East Jefferson Street, where officials said a loud party led to a shooting outside the complex.
However, with the light of a new day on Tuesday comes new details that the shooting had nothing to do with loud music next door – but was actually a love triangle. The shooting at a barbecue outside the complex when one man confronted another man in a wheelchair.
What we know:
Reginal Ervin lives at Sheridan Plaza Apartments and says he’s in the know on the comings and going at the complex.“I’ve been here six years. I know everything that’s going on,” he said. “(It was a) love triangle. He said he was gonna kill him and that’s what he said he was going to do.”
According to Ervin and many other residents, one man was upset that his love interest, a 65-year-old woman – who they identify as ‘Johnnie’ – was dating a new man, a man in his 70s and in a wheelchair.
Neighbors said the suspected shooter, a man in his early 70s, took his gun and shot Johnnie’s new boyfriend and two others
After the shooting, the suspect was tackled and dropped the gun. Johnnie then picked it up and then shot the man in self defense.
Ervin made it clear – he wasn’t there.
“I don’t mess around like that,” he said.
He took us to the scene of the shooting, behind the apartment complex where we ran into other neighbors.
Earnest Clark said they’re not a particularly rowdy crowd.
“We’re senior citizens. We’re supposed to retire, we’re supposed to have a good time, drink our daiquiris,” said Clark.
In total, four people were shot and all are in stable condition. Ervin said even though they’re not rowdy, there are other issues happening.
“Well, there are a whole lot of things going on here. I’m surprised this is the first time you came,” he said.
What we don’t know:
It’s unknown who will be facing charges in connection to the shooting.Whether it’s loud music, a BBQ, or a love triangle, you cannot use a gun.
Police said Johnnie acted in self-defense but she had
What they’re saying:
During an update late Monday night, Detroit Assistant Chief Arnold Williams said the shooting was ridiculous.“This is a shooting so ridiculous in nature that you can’t even explain it,” said Williams. “We’re having incidents again where people can’t resolve common issues. You don’t have to resort to a gun because somebody is playing loud music. It is just irrational. You are in your 70’s, this should not be what’s going on.”
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The merit of our Constitution is not that it promotes democracy, but checks it.
—HORATIO SEYMOUR
Don’t try to fight a senior, they’ll just shoot you.
At that age, a prison sentence isn’t a punishment, it’s a retirement.
That Flux Raider looks….interesting.
Not something to carry concealed, but still interesting.
Does it come with a Flux Capacitor, so you shoot boolits into the past? Or do you have to be traveling at 88mph, with several GWatts of electricity available?
Interesting is a good way to describe stuff like this. Cool, neat, groovy, tubular, etc. are others. I view the Flux Raider and similar products kind of like I do semiautos based on SMGs or rifles. The CZ Skorpion, really short AR pistols, and even the Draco seem fun to shoot, but I wouldn’t exactly consider them my first choice for a real-world application. They probably do fill a very particular niche, though, where you might need compactness with a bit more accuracy (and punch, for rifle caliber pistols).
Maybe I’m a traditionalist, but I like the practicality of a PCC coupled with a pistol. My Ruger PC Carbine fits the bill perfectly. While I bought the Security-9 to complement it, I swapped out the mag well pretty quickly, so it’s a go-to if I want something with more reach than my G17 or G45.
That said, the Flux Raider takes advantage of one of the P320’s most notable traits–the fire control unit. Disregarding the safety allegations against the design, the P320 really does permit an owner to use the FCU in nearly any frame or housing, making it a bit easier to create these “conversions” than, say, a Glock, where the conversion kit would have to make use of the entire pistol to a large degree.
A lot of people jumped onboard with the P320 due to its modularity. While the project I worked on in PEO Soldier wasn’t the MHS or NGSW, we had a contractor who’s an SF Warrant Officer in the Guard and former cop who was enamored with the FCU concept. I guess SIG provided an overabundance of different-sized frames, so they were “free” for the taking. I never bothered even asking about them, as I didn’t own a P320 and wasn’t planning to buy one in the immediate future.
Ugly gun. I wouldn’t get caught dead with that thing.
Wait….what?
I’m 68, retired, don’t eat much BBQ, stopped listening to loud music decades ago and don’t have a love interest to shoot someone over. I now feel like I’m not living a full life. Thanks.
Get you some Viagra and some daiquiris and let your hair down and show the ladies some “Edge love”. But if you are going to be a playa, make sure you have your gat handy because haters going to hate.
Words of wisdom…
Sounds like way too much work.
By the time we are in our 70s (::ahem::) we should be over that kind of nonsense. Y’can’t even blame hormones at that age – that is just full-on idiocy.
Houston PD put a lot of rounds downrange to get him one in the stomach and one in the buttcheek. But in that situation I’m not sure I’d do any better.
That FluxRaider won’t find a home in my safe. I want useful tools, not playtoys.
No reason not to have both.
Financial limitations keep me grounded to the practical, I’m afraid.
Now, if I had the ‘disposable income’ to get some playtoys, I’m not denying that I would. Still probably not the Flux Raider type of toys, tho’.
Some collection of precision rifles, some nicely engraved over/under & side-by-sides, ivory-handled 1911’s and SAAs… a collection of night vision devices, suppressors, AR patterns… a fella can dream.
One can dream…
I need to find a good range. The Bass Pro I worked at has a pistol range, but the retired BRPD Captain that works the range full time is a stickler for what can be shot. No 5.7×28, even if it’s from a pistol, for example. The rules are .44 and 2000 fps max. Honestly, that’s not a problem, but the big thing is that they haven’t sent anyone else to the RSO course since I left. For a while, we had six RSOs besides the full-time guy. One got moved to Hunting when they split away from Firearms, one got promoted to manager, and three of us left. The one remaining fill-in is the Used Gun Lead, and though they hired a Firearms manager, they rely on the one guy to act as Firearms Lead, used gun appraiser, and RSO. I used to be his backup for used guns (I own a few I’d appraised–offered a fair deal per Bass Pro guidelines, but got a relative steal, like my Inland M1 Carbine for $350) but my replacement works solely in the Gun Vault. Unless the full-time RSO is there, the range is closed depending on the lead’s availability. Anyway, I digress, retail wasn’t my forte and I think the management knew I brought more to the table than just sitting in the back room acquiring guns and putting out displays.
There are some ranges out here somewhere. I used to go to the wildlife management areas in VA and shoot, and there was one in Land Between the Lakes in Kentucky (or Tennessee, forget which). Unfortunately, they’ve built up around my house to where I don’t feel comfortable doing a lot of shooting. The occasional pistol or rimfire, but by and large my rifles stay in the house. Investing in suppressors would alleviate things a little, but I’d have to be sure of my backstop and range fans.
We have a gully on our land, with a hill behind rising another 50’+ above the top of the gully behind it. I’ve used it as a short range, have some stuff set up in it.
But it’s been hot, my post-radiation body don’t handle the heat well, and the mosquitoes this wet year have been plague-level.
Hopefully when it cools a bit I can get back down there.
Otherwise there are a number of indoor & outdoor ranges South of the GB Compound 50 klicks or so, but they want paid (go figure). I go when I have a few spare greenbacks.
Tune in again tomorrow to “The Old and Wrinkled”…
LOL!
I can’t wait till the senior citizen’s shootout movie comes out. It could be the romcom of the year!