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Category: Antiwar crowd

  • Good for the goose

    One of my ninjas sent this video of Ray McGovern being removed from a Hillary Clinton discussion at George Washington University a few days back. McGovern, it seems, stood with his back to the panel and then was forcibly removed from the room by a cop and someone in a suit. McGovern is wearing a Veterans For Peace shirt.

    Of course, the hippies are outraged that McGovern was treated this way and highlight his military service.

    I suppose it’s too much to ask the hippies to remember that several VFP and union thugs pounced on 60-year-old Gerry Kiley, a Vietnam veteran, tackled him to the floor and then dragged him from the room at Winter Soldier in 2008.

    McGovern was treated gently compared to what TSO and I witnessed at Winter Soldier.

    Grow a pair, Ray.

  • Duff and his minions on trutherism

    TSO sends this link to the latest nuthatchery at Veterans Today and Gordon Duff entitled “FINALLY, EXPERIMENTAL EVIDENCE DEBUNKS N.I.S.T. 9/11 COVERUP” He includes a video which has the same quality of experimentation as the famous Democratic Underground’s “Fire can’t melt rabbit cages” post. As usual, it’s lengthy (15 minutes) and hardly worth your time;

    But, of course, to Duff it’s irrefutable;

    A decade after 9/11, there is still a debate about how the towers were brought down, even though most aspects of the 9/11 Commission report have been discarded. 3000 murders are simply being ignored.

    There is no debate. There’s general agreement throughout the entire planet, with the exception of a few crackpots…and the Arab world. But the real story is in the comments section of the post, among the crackpots;

    Brian says:
    February 15, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    I’m waiting for a brazen Mossad agent to write a book about how the Mossad and their traitors in the US government did 911. Surely some Mossad agents want to boast about their evil accomplishment. Yes, they may use a moniker.

    Ingrid B says:
    February 16, 2011 at 5:53 am

    If there are MOSSAD agents running loose in the US, who knows where they will strike next.. I get the strong impression that they are crazy psychopaths who perfect the art of death and destruction..

    Michael J Volz says:
    February 16, 2011 at 7:50 am

    They are everywhere and anywhere. “Our” “leaders” have been leaving the back door open and the light on for them, forever. CIA is now a mossad subsidiary.

    Duff certainly knows how to de-medicate the straight-jacket crowd.

    Here’s what I’d ask; Don’t you think someone would have noticed the Mossad ninjas planting the hundreds of thermate charges that the job would have required? Does anyone else think that there are hundreds of easier ways to get into a war if that was the goal? Am I the only who thinks that some self-promoting glory hound who was involved would have written a book or been on television by now? I mean we found out about Abu Gahrab, right?

  • So where are the apologies?

    I read yesterday about the admission by “Curveball”, actually Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi, our main source on Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction, admitted that his information was all bullshit. Of course, dicksmith pounces on this tidbit like a dung beetle on a turd;

    Well, there you have it folks. The source of the intel that got us into Iraq, a conflict that has killed over 4,400 American troops, says it was all bullshit. Those weren’t just empty faces in camo sacks. Those were someones father or mother, someone’s son, someone husband, someone’s wife, someone’s daughter. And they all died, each and every one of them, over deliberate lies.

    I’m not surprised. We’ve known this for years. But there is something about hearing from the hourses [sic] mouth that makes me extra angry.

    First of all, it’s probably pretty important to determine whether al-Janabi was lying then, or if he’s lying now. I mean when a liar admits he’s lying, you should figure when he’s lying, right?

    Secondly, IF the Bush Administration was victim of a lie, that pretty much absolves them of any responsibility for sending troops into Iraq. All of those “Bush lied” placards were wrong, since lying is different from being misinformed by intelligence sources.

    Thirdly, weapons of mass destruction were just ONE reason we went to war in Iraq. There were other things like Hussein massing his troops on the Kuwaiti border to rattle sabers for more than ten years. There were all of the potshots he took at our service members patrolling the skies over the No-Fly zone. There was the misuse of of the “oil for Food” program. There was the failure to cooperate with UN inspectors on an annual basis. Not to mention the 500 tons of uranium he had stored which we shipped to Canada a few years after the war began.

    But since the anti-war doofuses have chosen to ignore all of the other reasons we went into Iraq and cling pathetically to the WMD issue (while ignoring the WMDs we actually discovered in Iraq), it seems they owe the Bush Administration an apology for accusing them of lying.

    If dicksmith wants an investigation at this point, he should conduct one at VoteVets about all of things VoteVets has flatly lied about over the years since it’s founding. I wait patiently with unabated breath.

  • Mainstreaming Paulians

    By now, you’ve probably already read that Ron Paul won the straw poll at the CPAC conference this weekend for the second year running. Paulians led the jeering at Donald Rumsfeld’s and Dick Cheney’s speech. It maintains the image that we all had of the Paulians during the 2008 Presidential campaign. A small group which doesn’t represent the majority take control of small venues presenting an image that they’re larger and more influential than they really are.

    Thankfully, they no longer spam blogs with their “read a book!”

    I’ve said many times that although I agree with much of Ron Paul’s domestic policy, but his foreign policies are completely irresponsible and negate anything else he might have to say. I’ve also commented before that the Tea Party movement has a “Ron Paul feeling” to it…just like the feeling I had when I was watching the Oath Keeper movement.

    And now that feeling has nearly taken over the Tea Party crowd. In the Guardian yesterday, the lines between the Paulians and the Tea Party have disappeared.

    What had been a relatively low-grade domestic dispute between the Republican party establishment and the libertarian-minded Tea Party movement boiled over into the public arena during this week’s CPAC conference in Washington….

    Rand Paul’s campaign blindly embraced IVAW member Adam Kokesh’s congressional run in New Mexico until it became a political liability. Oath Keepers embraced Adam Kokesh and Eric Oereski until This Ain’t Hell exposed them (here and here). But who is going to expose the Ron Paul connections to the Tea Party and expunge their corrupt effect on the conservative wing of the Republicans?

    Elements of the Tea Party, like the Oath Keepers, hide their true Libertine intents behind pretty words and populist signage. Those elements need to be purged.

  • I will remember that you said that.

    This is what is going around FaceBook from Rethink Afghanistan.

    Yea, the Taliban will all go away if we leave. It is all our fault.

    Except that people conveniently forget what the Taliban truly are.

    But don’t worry this is all our fault too. But somethings will never change.

  • Kucinich and Brad Manning

    Dennis Kucinich is taking time out from his lawsuit against the Congressional cafeteria to focus on Bradley Manning’s treatment at Quantico. On his website, he posts his letter asking the SecDef, Robert Gates for a visitation;

    Private Manning’s guilt or innocence is a question for adjudication and his treatment at Quantico severely undermines the presumption of innocence as enshrined in the U.S. Constitution and raises questions as to whether he is truly able to stand trial. His care while in the custody of the Department of Defense is the responsibility of the U.S. Government and as a member of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform it is my duty to conduct effective oversight.

    The ironic part of the letter, he defends Manning’s right to the assumption of innocence while Kucinich presumes that the DoD is guilty of Manning’s lawyer’s charges of mistreatment. You’d think he’d wait to visit Manning before giving a defense lawyer any credence.

    Thanks to Daniel for the link.

  • More idiot hippie crap

    StrikeFO sent us a link to an article in his school’s paper, University of Tampa’s “The Minaret” (Seriously?). The article written by Camilla Chabet is entitled “Military Service Preys On Fragile Minds Of The Youth“. Yes, it’s says what you think it says;

    Although military drafts were banned back in 1973, it is not hard to see instances where military service is heavily persuading and aiming for young people. The army openly stated that it was looking to attract and recruit more young people.

    The draft wasn’t “banned”, cupcake. In fact it may surprise you that the Selective Service System still exists, and all of those 18-year-old men around you at college are supposed to be registered for the draft. And of course the Army wants to recruit young people…cuz old people like me don’t make good soldiers. Dipshit.

    I was perturbed that the minimum education requirement for a person to be recruited into the U.S Army was a high school diploma, while the minimum age requirement was set at 18. Even this requirement has been over looked at times by allowing 17-year-olds to be deployed.At the age of 18, and even with a high school diploma, a person is too young to be recruited into military service.

    Yeah, most of the people in the United States only achieve a twelfth grade education. If teachers would get off their fat asses and actually teach, that’s all of the education we generally need. I went through most of my adult with just a high school education and when I did graduate from college, all I needed was the diploma because I learned more in high school.

    They are young and still fresh. They are yet to be exposed to the real world, or even college, which is a diluted form of the real world. It is during the 18-25 age bracket that a person develops and tests their beliefs, it is at this time that they explore who they are and what they are about.

    College has absolutely nothing to do with the real world. In college, you learn HOW to learn for yourself, your real education happens AFTER you leave college. In fact, college is so unlike the real world, folks in the real world giggles behind the recent grad’s back. The only thing you get from college is the sense that you know something.

    I’d hire a twenty-two year veteran with a high school education before I’d hire a twenty-two year old college graduate.

    t is in college that these beliefs are formed, fully developed and make up a person’s character and personality. People get to see a greater extent of what they hear about, they get to experiment with the process of making a decision by themselves and dealing with the implication of the decisions they make.

    You’ve obviously never seen a twenty-year-old buck sergeant lead a fire team against an enemy. Or a twenty-year-old buck sergeant lead physical training. What have you done in your pathetic little college student life? Planned a kegger?

    This is clear when observing the choices made by a freshman at college, compared to those of a junior or senior. As a person is exposed to more, they learn the difference between good and bad and right wrong; it is these that form the basis of what a person chooses to believe in and the path of life they choose to take later in life.

    Yeah, learning the difference between good and bad is different than doing the right thing. Hell, these days, most college students can’t even pick a major in their first two years. Because they don’t have to. Army recruits make their career choices before they even enter the service. They know what they want.

    The main problem with trying to recruit people who are young and mostly fresh out of high school is that they are not fully aware of what they are going to do. Some people’s main motivation for wanting to join the army is the allure of adventure and being exposed to guns and actually being able to use them. A young man is willing to lose his life for a cause that he may not even fully understand.

    Why? Because you were such an immature airhead that you didn’t understand at that age?

    Young people are quicker and more aggressive at defending their decision to join the army as opposed to veterans who will tell you the thick of what it really is, without all the puffed up promises of glory.

    You don’t know any veterans either do you?

    The only redeeming portion of the article is the comments.

  • Manning updates

    The Washington Post reports this morning that Bradley Manning, the soldier who released mountains of classified information to Wikileaks, was diagnosed as unfit for duty in Iraq by a mental health professional at Fort Drum, but that Manning’s command disregarded that diagnosis.

    The Army investigation, which is separate from an ongoing criminal inquiry, found that Manning’s immediate supervisors did not follow procedures for overseeing the secure area where the classified information was kept, greatly increasing the risk of a security breach, the official said.

    Yeah, that doesn’t excuse Manning’s treason either.

    Meanwhile, Amnesty International has busied itself with Manning’s treatment while he’s at Quantico’s confinement facility;

    On his website, [Manning’s lawyer David E.] Coombs says Manning is being kept in solitary confinement 23 hours a day, barred from having sheets or using a pillow, prohibited from keeping personal items in his cell, and forced to respond to a guard’s queries every five minutes. Manning cannot exercise while in his cell, and he must strip down to his underwear before going to bed. If guards can’t see him clearly when he’s sleeping, he is woken.

    And Amnesty International is trying to convince the Brits that Manning is a Brit, too. I wonder when was the last time AI checked in on Bowe Bergdahl, the paratrooper being held by the Taliban.