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Elevating the tone of the discussion

Old Trooper sends us a link to Smoking Gun in which they post this picture of T-shirts that went on sale in Florida yesterday which will certainly go a long ways towards calming the situation there over the Trayvon Martin shooting;

Who do I have to see to get my picture on a shirt like that? I’d get to shoot more criminals if one of you would do me that favor. In a related email, ROS sends us a comment on Facebook from someone who clearly understands the issue;

If what is being said about Zimmerman having a gun permit is true, I don’t think any state allows a private gun permit to be issued for a semi automatic. Where did he get it? Who sold it? If he was so unstable, who signed off on his permit application? Yes deep rooted fears say that large black men dressed urbanely are dangerous (yet popular culture promotes this fashion and the media says it’s bad) and yes we as Americans have the right to bear arms, but no one should die cuz of their height/weight/fashion sense/race and no one should be approved for a permit or allowed a gun purchase if they could be mentally unstable.

Yeah, what are you people doing with those semi-automatic handguns, when clearly they’re more dangerous than revolvers. I’m not exactly positive on this, but I think Martin was shot once, and everyone knows that a semi-automatic pistol shoots one round faster than a revolver, right?

Recent reports I’ve seen are beginning to turn Zimmerman’s way. Police sources are saying that the forensic evidence is supporting Zimmerman’s contention that he was attacked from behind, his injured nose, injuries to the back of his head and grass stains on his back. They also say that Zimmerman was headed in the direction of his SUV when he was attacked.

Old Trooper wonders why this case which happened at Mississippi State this weekend isn’t receiving this much attention.

30 thoughts on “Elevating the tone of the discussion

  1. I’m a Mississippi State alum, so I’ll tell you why it’s not receiving any attention. 1) Mississippi is not a critical swing state for Obama and 2) it was a white guy (not even a “white Hispanic”) killed by three African-Americans, so why should the media care?

  2. I will focus on the photo. If this mole attempted to walk down the street in NYC … he would have his ass handed to him … BLACK and WHITE!

  3. Cracker? lol. I think he got the race wrong.

    Anyhow recent revelations are making all these Trayvon memorials look ridiculous. Somehow he wasn’t quite the little saint everyone was making him out to be.

    Funny how they are now backpedaling and making accusations about the media demonizing Trayvon. They sure didn’t have a problem with the media demonizing Zimmerman when the shooting was initially reported.

  4. This is why I have serious issues with today’s pop culture, the same that brought us Souja Boi. And when it comes to investigations, always look to the forensics. There are typically three viewpoints, what one side says, what the other side says, and what the evidence says… The icing on the cake to me (I minored in Crime Scene Forensics in college) would be the kids toxicology report. Owing to his previous suspension from school, to his facebook thug photos and to his home life (as a purely observational POV, nothing politically incorrect meant by that) I would bet three rounds of beer to any of you that the kid was on some sort of illegal narcotic and that he was the primary aggressor here not Zimmerman. I would also hope that Zimmerman sues the media and certain other groups for defamation of character and for mental anguish.

  5. SG also has a screen shot of the copyright application from the young mans mother.
    Stay classy.

  6. @4: Without a doubt, Master Chief. There are many that I know in the “black community” that aren’t drinking the racist koolaid, but there are enough that are and include black celebrities like Will Smith, who sent out a tweet that basically tried and convicted Zimmerman and gives his endorsement to the NBP mantra about “justice for Trayvon”. Those are the ones that will influence the weak minded amongst us and I’m sorry to say that this President has done more to damage race relations and forward racial division than any President in recent history.

  7. All I have to say about this mess is, “if I had a son, who was a member of a community watch program, was properly licensed to carry weapon in Florida, was apparently attacked from behind and recieved a broken nose and gash to his head, he would look like Zimmerman”.

  8. If the term “cracker” can now be used against those who are half-white, does that mean 0bama is a “cracker?”

  9. @10: Obama threw his white heritage under the bus the second he ran for State office back in Chicago.

  10. I was no where near Mississippi and I still don’t know why people always scream Kill Whitey! I didn’t do anything to deserve all this hatred.

    So looking forward to my year tour in the sandbox to get away from this all.

  11. Actually, I believe O threw his white (WTFE that is) heritage under the bus in his book, where he stated just so very clearly.

  12. Personally, I have always believed in this little thing that the media outlets are forgetting about… innocent until proven guilty. Unfortunately, in today’s America, people are guilty until they can offer proof of their innocence that will be ignored by the media. From the vitriol against Zimmerman by the NBP and Nation of Islam to the incident by the Fort Lewis soldier in the Rockpile.

    If Zimmerman goes to court, there is no way he can get a fair trial. If he does not go to court (the forensics point to his story being correct), then he will have to change his life (identity, location, etc) or risk being shot in a vigilante-style revenge killing.

  13. All I’ve gotten from this is that it’s not cool to defend onesself from an attacker or other criminal caught in the act if he/she is black, even though that’s the 20% of the population responsible for 80% of all USA crime, per the FBI stats.

    We’ve still not heard why the kid was in that neighborhood – he obviously didn’t live there.

  14. Holy Crap … Imagine this. What if I had a screen name “NO LIMIT WHITEY or CRACKER or HONKY or SNOW WHITE or HITLER MAN” (or whatever inappropriate bad word) and I went around talking about beating people up, showing off my gold tuffesses, and essentially acting like a total teen moron … well you know what would happen to me. But of course that is not what I would do. Like most I sit on the 50 yard line and watch the game.

  15. No Limit Nigga? Thats classy. From the Twitter posts he seems like a real fine upstanding and promising young man who wouldn’t even think about jaywalking, let alone breaking into cars. Oooohh, this is going to be the first time Zimmerman has smiled since this shit storm began.

  16. Sing Along with Me:

    No Limit Niggas (real song)

    [C-Murder]
    Say twins you know how we go do a fucking show
    Get that bitch rowdy how crazy they be acting out there
    Niggas can’t control theirself be like uh

    They call me C-Murder and I got TRU tagged on my motherfucking back
    Ever since I started rapping all my real ass niggas come and follow my lead

    Got my balls and my word nigga ask Young Bleed
    We come do a show in your motherfucking city

    They call me the baddest cause No Limit act shitty

    Beats By The Pound make them ignant ass beats

    When a nigga like me bring the shit to the streets
    Because the ghetto is my home nigga I’m ghetto raised

    I’m unpredictable ask the nigga with the braids

    My motherfucking music be jumping out of record stores

    Nigga where’s your proof motherfucker check billboards

    To all my tank dogs that’s bout it

    Then throw off your set and get this motherfucker rowdy

    Chorus

    We be No Limit niggas and we bout it
    We come to a club and get the motherfucker rowdy x2

    [Kane & Abel]
    6 shots of hennesey I’m feeling right in this bitch

    Hit the dash flow off Mike start a fight in this bitch

    I got the crowd jumping gangstafied shit pumping

    Tell that bitch and that hoe I’m trying to do something

    I cracked the optimal open in the middle of the club

    Don’t give a fuck about the popos niggas smoke some bud
    Let’s go half on a 40 sack show me some love

    I stucked a pistol in the club for them wannabe thugs

    TRU niggas smoke dank all the way to the bank

    [ From: http://www.metrolyrics.com/no-limit-niggas-lyrics-kane-able.html ]

    All the hustlers picks the baddest so love to bank

    Kane & Abel kick butt knuckle up don’t give a fuck

    We bout it and I’m gon’ get this motherfucker rowdy

    Chorus x2

    [Fiend]
    I was dropped from the clouds above given a gat and some slugs
    Killing whatever bugs that ain’t a soldier does

    For the love of drugs half of my paper go to bud

    Ebonic you speaking in the club uh nigga what

    Everytime I buzz the tank does when I it

    With the type of skills to knock a baller off his pivot
    I admit it I’m one of the baddest that ever lived

    You ain’t seen nothing wait till I’m full of that shit

    Take a pull of that shit

    And you can meet the pieces

    My ironic thesis first heard on a player’s leases

    Lyrical adhesives making these niggas meet Jesus

    I guess we just got them to pieces like greases

    To my tweakers it’s a piece of dope you was needing

    My vocals got wannabe slugs bleeding

    It’s believing get you tore up by my shotty

    Fiendzotie forever bout it staying rowdy

    Chorus x3

    [C-Murder talking]
    Yeah another example of that gangsta shit

    C-Murder in this bitch Kane & Abel the F. I. Fiend

    Shit just another motherfucking day another dollar

    Get it right cause we bout it peace

  17. @22, funny, I was just going to say that exact thing! This is really telling, and the fact that he struck a bus driver, had burglary tools and obviously stolen jewelry and pot in his book bag, and that he got caught graffittiing a wall means that he truly WAS an upstanding citizen! Wow, and his parents are si sure its just an attempt to assassinate his character… What character? Your kid was headed down the seriously wrong path and you are either too oblivious or too ignorant to see that! In college, I had to take class’ on victimology and sociology, where we learned what makes people perpetual victims and what makes people repeat offenders… Their environment, and look at the environment ‘little’ Trayvon grew up in!

  18. @21 I’ve had a few people say my nickname is racist and offensive. I tell them only if it offends me and it doesn’t.

  19. George Zimmerman saved Florida the cost of housing an up-and-coming criminal as well as at least five future liquor store robberies. I mean, Trayvon was 17. Little thuggish corner kids like him age in dog years. He was already a Bodie Broadus-style OG. Probably had some bodies on him, too. And since when did the criteria for self-defense become so stringent? This “kid” was black, 6’3, dressed like a gang banger, and stalking a neighborhood while reaching for something in his waistband. Despite all that, Zimmerman didn’t even pull the trigger until Trayvon initiated a physical conflict. He was ridiculously lenient. The majority would have pulled the trigger at the sight of a 6’3 black man prowling a gating community. The true tragedy is that this Zimmerman character is now being demonized in the court of public opinion for doing what anyone would have done when confronted by a violent, drug using, wannabe gangster in the middle of the night. That, and the fact a Latino has a Jewish last name, for some reason. You know some ignorant blacks are going to probably firebomb some synagogues in retaliation.

  20. Zimmerman’s friend is on Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnel right now, which makes me wonder what the point is of having a show if you never let anyone answer your questions?

  21. So, I’m incensed and offended that a Hispanic man would be called a cracker. Sorry, but that’s a derogatory-towards-whites-only racial epithet, not a cookie cutter, twist it to fit the situation epithet. What’s my Scot-Irish ass got left if I can’t even be proud of being Cracker?

    Makes me want to form the Million Cracker March to bring awareness to this alarming issue and take it back from the Hispanics! I’m also thinking of making myself the self appointed president of the “Keep Cracker White Party (KCWP)”.

    I guess the irony of printing shirts with racial epithets towards whites to showcase the racism against blacks is lost on some people…

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