Joshua’s coming home…thanks to an army of robotic judges at the refugee board….
Canada’s Immigration and Refugee Board has rejected granting refugee status to Joshua Key, 32, a deserter from the U.S. army who says he is haunted by atrocities he saw committed by American soldiers in Iraq.
“I find that the claimant is neither a . . . refugee nor a person in need of protection,” ruled Ken Atkinson of the board.
The negative ruling means the Canada Border Services Agency could move to deport Key.
From a post I wrote about his book:
“Joshua Key and his book are more full of fecal matter than the honey wagon trucks sucking out the port-o-johns at Ft Polk. I’d rather have a suppository applied with a tomahawk missile than read this book again.”
From the article about his impending return:
After fleeing to Canada, Key wrote The Deserter’s Tale, a book in which he described seeing two civilians decapitated and their bodies desecrated.
“There were American soldiers kicking the heads around like soccer balls,” Key wrote.
Key told the board he joined the Army after a recruiter told him he would be assigned as a bridge builder and not deployed in combat.
His unit entered Kuwait on April 10, 2003, and within weeks, he was in Ramadi, Iraq, where he said his duties included conducting night-time raids of Iraqi homes in search of weapons.
During these raids, he said, he witnessed several instances of unjustified abuse, unwarranted detention, humiliation and looting by fellow soldiers, much of which was ignored by his superior officers. He said that at other times in Iraq, he witnessed unwarranted physical abuse, including the killing of apparently innocent civilians.
Anyway, I am glad this dirtbag is finally getting booted. About friggin time. He’s been procreating with some Canadian broad like mad, so prepare yourself for the inevitable “how could they seperate this hero from his children” story. My response would be to ask how many of you cried about thepile of fetuses that David Bellavia was forced to boogie board down in Iraq. pile of fetuses that David Bellavia was forced to boogie board down in Iraq.
(I could live to 150 years old and still be most proud of my 3 minutes as the producer of “Blue Falcon Radio”. Great moment in the history of radio.)
BTW- Here is the lying sack of shit crying on Canadian TV.
Thanks to Olga for the link.
I can understand Canada booting him, but do we have to keep him? Can’t we send him to explore the far side of Mars or something?
Uh, almost hate to ask – did Key actually witness war crimes committed by American troops, like actual human beings getting murdered – or does that get in the way of your nice, neat little diatribe against this guy? You never do discuss whether or not he witnessed war crimes committed by American or NATO forces. I guess you couldn’t care less whether or not civilians got murdered? Not worth the trouble of investigating? Is your cavalier dismissal of his war crimes claims your way of saying that’s how you do (? did) business over there?
Well, if you had actually read the other posts etc, you would see that he witnessed things that also violate the laws of physics, like machine gun bullets igniting gas tanks of vehicles.
And yeah, I researched it, and there is no evidence that exists that suggests US Troops played soccer with a decapitated head.
I’ll tell you what Joe, you get Joshua to name just one individual, one date and location, of ANYTHING violative of the laws of war, and I will bug the shit out of the Pentagon daily until I get an answer. Or, you could read his book, and you’ll realize he’s completely full of shit.
At one point he talks about a “Gunny” in the army. You ever meet an Army Gunny joe?
Joe the Troll:
You are in red-filter defilade dude. If there was a shred of evidence to back up Joshua’s fairy tales, there’d be a half-dozen JAG officers wetting their pants at the thought of prosecuting soldiers for war crimes.
But you already knew that, right Joe?
OMG. I am so glad I don’t watch tv. I had to stop the first video before one minute. The second one a bit longer. So… the U.S. has sent us draft dodgers and deserters, and we send you people with money who spend their winters in Arizona and Cali. Is this guy going to be ostracized if he returns to the U.S.? Is he going to be tortured? Will he fear for his life? The Immigration and Refugee Board has made a perfectly sound decision, see if they can follow through with it.
Spockgirl
We didn’t send you folks the deserters and draft dodgers, they went on their own…we’d just as soon send them to jail. Please feel free to return all of them, we’ll gladly put them where they belong 😉
With the microscope that has been focused on this operation for so long, true instances of the types of crimes Key speaks about would have been outed and acted upon long, long ago Joe. If a SEAL operation in a war zone where a team member smacks around a detained known murderer results in a lengthy trial for the Team members involved, don’t you think atrocities of the number and scope this boob is wailing about would have come to official attention and been acted on?
Come on, apply some of the common sense you acuse us of lacking.
Spockgirl: I’m not sure how much of your comment was meant
as sarcasm, but the straight answer would be: yes, he could and probably will face desertion charges from the Army.
Joe: a straight answer to your question is that, if he did actually witness some form of war crime, he will definitely use that information to mitigate any desertion charges he faces. He would, almost certainly, attempt to shift any blame off him and onto the Army, so that he doesn’t have to go to jail for desertion.
“Uh, almost hate to ask – did Key actually witness war crimes committed by American troops, like actual human beings getting murdered…”
I don’t really know “Joe”, and neither do you fuck-stick.
As was mentioned above, if there was one scintilla of truth to what this POS coward was claiming, CID, JAG, you name it, would have been crawling up the collective asses of everyone he named from his old unit. Or is it a case of, he didn’t/couldn’t finger anyone by name?
Locations, units/persons involved, DTGs? Any of that provided by Key? Corroboration by anyone else? And I don’t know, because I ain’t spending money on the fuck-tard’s book to find out.
Apparently that has not happened…and you know why, “Joe”?
Because it didn’t FUCKING HAPPEN. It’s BS…he’s a coward and a liar.
So, “Joe”, why don’t you tell us about all the atrocities/war crimes YOU personally witnessed during your combat tours in Iraq and/or Afghanistan? I mean, you were there…weren’t you?
…and Joe, I gotta tell you, guy…
I haven’t decided yet if you’re fearless or lunatic, coming on a milblog and asking these folks if they committed autrocities when they served…
I do know this, though:
You must really love a good dog-pile.
#3 TSO wrote:
“At one point he talks about a “Gunny” in the army. You ever meet an Army Gunny joe?”
I was in US Army Artillery units in my first enlistment. A Btry 1/13th FA, Ft Stewart, GA, and A Btry 2/17th FA in Korea.
I recall we called our E6 “Gunny” and our E7 “Smoke”, and our E8 or course was “Top”.
FYI
You are correct about many arty units rad, however I’ve never heard the title gunny used in the engineers, which is apparently what Key claims to have been.
PintoNag #8
“…the straight answer would be: yes, he could and probably will face desertion charges from the Army.”
Yes, I figured he would face desertion charges, but that is a whole heck of a lot different from being stoned, whipped, beaten or shot, which refugees from some other countries might be able to claim as fact. If he had remained in the U.S. in the first place and been caught, he would have faced the desertion charges regardless.
And, who the heck moves to Saskatchewan voluntarily? Heh.
Oh, I bet he’s stoned.
What? Different definition?
I’m with Spockgirl on the Saskatchewan. That right there makes him all too suspect to me lol
I also would remind you all that he hasn’t been picked up yet. I fully expect to now hear that he is applying to stay on ‘humanitarian/hardship’ grounds because he has Canadian children or something..*gasp* His pleas will, of course, be supported – loudly as usual – by opposition politicians who have long declared that we should have open borders for all your poor deserters. So far I think we have only sent one deserter back across the border to be tortured by the US military. Robin Long, I think it was, and last I heard, yes he was put in the brig.
By the way, I got a chuckle out of he was “going to be building bridges..”
Joe,
First, I would go to the previous posts done by TAH, ROK Drop and others showing the inconsistencies in the stories.
Second, the reason that stuff like this receives “diatribes” from Military Bloggers is because they understand the law of war and believe in the profession of the service. People like this perpetuate the myth of a dehumanized military by providing examples using completely unbelievable atrocities and providing absolutely zero hard evidence.
In almost every case, protesting war because killing is bad is not enough; they need to include “head soccer”, “ear necklaces”, or any other dehumanizing action to make it more tragic. This goes completely against what 99% of us condone as professional Soldiers.
Therefore, it is completely understandable that when someone does this, they are ostracized and ridiculed accordingly because they dishonor through lies and deception.
….Blue Falcon Radio….
Bwahahahaha!!!!!
(TSO) “He’s been procreating with some Canadian broad like mad, so prepare yourself for the inevitable ‘how could they seperate this hero from his children’ story.”
In the second video of his interview on Canadian television, he said that his ex-wife and four kids left Canada to go back to the US. Did he then marry a Canadian woman after that? Or were you mixed up as to the nationality of his wife/ex-wife? If he was procreating in large volume with a Canadian woman after he already had four children with an American woman, well, that is quite a lot of children. (Not that it’s any of my business…assuming that he’s supporting them all… Well, they must be paying him really well in Canada for him to be able to support that many children…)
Anyway…
TSO (#3) wrote, “At one point he talks about a “Gunny” in the army. You ever meet an Army Gunny joe?”
Actually, I can recall that one of my ex-husbands would sometime address one of the platoon sergeants in our company as “Gunny” during casual conversation when he would come over to our house to visit when he was a Spec 4. I was so young and naive back then (over 30 years ago), I didn’t even know that’s what E-7’s in the Marines were called. I kept asking him why he called the Sergeant First Class, “Gunny” and what does it mean. I think the best I could get from him was that it was like a term of affection and respect. I remember thinking it was weird and fake- sounding because I was in the same Army as him (heck, we were in the same platoon), and the Army never taught me that, so I couldn’t figure out where he was getting it from because I had never heard it before. Probably heard it in some stupid macho movie or something.
First, I would go to the previous posts done by TAH, ROK Drop and others showing the inconsistencies in the stories.
Daniel — You know that’s asking quite a lot of Joe to actually do research on a topic instead of just talking out of his ass, right?
Well, they must be paying him really well in Canada for him to be able to support that many children…
Or it could be that he’s enjoying the socialist welfare state they have in Canada, similar to the one we have here in the US, where if you pop out a baby, you’re then entitled to steal your fellow citizen’s money… err… a welfare check from Obama’s stash. I wonder what the Canadian version is of Obama’s stash.
It would REALLY help if you guys read the links embedded in the story.
Regarding Timothy McVeigh:
It was an American – a former gunnery sergeant in the 1st Infantry division in the First Gulf War – who had blown up his own people. [Ed Note- The army does not have “gunnery sergeants” which is E7 in the Marine Corps, McVeigh was an E5. You’d have thought a graduate of Basic/AIT would fricken know the rank structure, no?]
And the wife leaving him is a new development. I understood she was Canadian, but perhaps not. Not sure, but she hadn’t left him the last time I saw him doing some asinine video when he was saying that was why he had to stay in country.
So, wife flees with kids. Wonder why.
Oh, you’re right…I should read the links. But hey, I watched the video and you apparently didn’t!
Actually, the “BTW” was a post facto addition. I didn’t have it when I first wrote the post.
Joe; no matter how bad you want to make American troops out to be these eeeeevil doers, who ignore the Geneva Accords, ignore their training, and basically just kill without conscience or reason, that’s not what happens. You’ve been watching too many hoolyweird movies and listening to too many hippy types from the original “Winter Soldier” circus. Why is it that you immediately believe that our troops devolve to the lowest form? Why is it that you believe, without question, that our troops are constantly engaged in the wholesale, purposeful death and destruction of un-armed civilians? Did you hang around with John Murtha, because he was the same way; convicting Marines of something he knew nothing about before there was even a trial and before any facts were presented.
You say your dad was a WWII Vet? I wonder how he would feel about you talking like this about American troops? Did you feel the same way about your dad? If you did; did he know that? Did you tell him that?
Joe; you stepped way over the line with this one and I take personal offense to your bullshit. To me, you are nothing but a bleeding heart, whining maggot, no-load, pus-nuts, POS that I wouldn’t walk across the street to piss on if you were on fire.
Stay home on Thursday, because men and women that are your betters are going to be honored throughout the country and I wouldn’t want any of your stench to get on them you fuck stain.
OT, well said. And I concur whole-heartedly. Stay home, Joe, if you showed at a Veteran’s Day event honoring the troops, you wouldn’t mean it. And, you would, indeed, demean the service of your betters.