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Weekend Open Thread

by thebesig••175

One of the ways to annoy a conservative is to lie. One of the ways to annoy a progressive/leftist is to provide the facts. We see this with the reactions that Rachel Maddow and Tucker Carlson get from those that disagree with their political views. Enjoy your weekend. 

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      1. No worries Brother. I’m willing to share it with you since we show at the same time. When milliseconds count, who knows? I did not think I would make it because I use a VPN which has a small delay.

      2. When I saw you’d taken 1st?
        Its was a three-way, you, Sparks, me under a different name.
        Oh well. Whomever: dang you (but congrats)

      3. CW, next time use a hand grenade…or an atomic bomb. That’s the only “close” counts.

        Rats of the Cong on your FIRSTNESS, Sparks. I just KNOW that you gonna lay out some mid rats snacky stuff and some refreshing beverages? Cotton picken’ Hack Stone didn’t serve up anything but a possible discount on some outdated software that he pilfered from that Proud, but humble, woman owned group that sells such to the Federal Grubermint…Oh and a ride in the company car…bring your own tag.

        1. If you were here KoB, it would be the snacks of your choice and Jack Daniels.

          Regarding Rats of the Cong and such things. I ate enough in Vietnam. I was one of the rare GIs who loved ham and motherfuckers. I could get a lot in trade for taking H&Ms off a guy. I’d get the H&M, smokes, and their desert for anything I had other than H&M.

    2. If Claw is around, it would be great to know the last time I hit a first. I’d like to thank my F-5 key, my parents for having me, and having hit the coveted First I will now use my piano to write a song the whole world can sing. Thank you, thank you, yes, thank you!

      1. Sparks, a thorough examination of The Coveted Book of WOT Firsts reveals that even though you scored a First on the “Big Guns” Open Thread on 06 Jan 21, and prior to that on a One-Day Mini Open Thread on 04 Jul 17, your scoring a First on a Weekend Open Thread has never occurred until now.

        1. Claw, thank you for the information. So, today is my first and only actual WOT first. Thanks again.

          1. You’re Welcome. Your request is only one of the reasons why I maintain a hand-written, readily available log of all the WOT Firsts, without having to rely on computer archives to tell us what we want to know.

        1. And WHO is the only deplorable with the 5 in a row (ACE for Air Kills) of the Coveted FIRST on the TAH Weekend Open Thread, Chippy? There is ONLY ONE (1). There is also ONLY ONE (1) that had the millionth comment. Lonely at the top.

          Mess with me and I’ll make my 2 millionth comment by Christmas.

    3. A BIG CONGRATS to you, Sparks!

      Well Deserved!

      Enjoy your week as The Ruler of TAH!

      😎👏👏👏

    1. Direct Guest Posting update…

      On last week’s WOT, I announced a proposal that would allow you guys to directly provide guest posts to the site. After discussing it among the other blog article contributors, a unanimous agreement with the concept was forwarded to Valor Guardians/This Aint Hell top management.

      Should this get approved, and become available, you guys would be encouraged to provide links, as well as commentary in your own words regarding the article. Your guest post submission is reviewed and, if accepted for posting, would be posted as a blog article as you’ve seen us post.

      1. I’m going to be the first of FIRSTS to propose a link to me showing my ass, only because we really need something fresh to get the visual of Dave in a Pink Fuzzy Bathrobe out of our Mind’s mouths.

        Here’s an example test….(if approved by Valor Guardians/This Aint Hell top management and This Meming has been Copyrighted by ChipNASA Productions for the Private use of our audience, Any other use of this meming or any pictures, descriptions, or accounts of this meme without the consent of ChipNASA Productions is prohibited.”(This is actually product in the public domain on Tube of You for Cartoon Network…Any other use of this test post or any pictures, descriptions, or accounts of the game without the NFL’s consent is prohibited,”

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYIHS7j4_XI

      2. thebesig:

        I still like your idea and hope Top Management will approve it.

        If it does go thru, I highly encourage LC, Commissar, C2Show, STEELY (misspelled) and others that have dfferent viewpoints to author a topic for discussion.

        Just My Two Pennies.

        😎😉

        1. This is so bullshit, but I just heard this joke:

          “I’d tell a killer delta variant joke, but chances are 99.97% of you won’t get it.”

          And now I feel better about your bullshit.

          Cheers!

          (I don’t always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer a Bud Light. Bullshit. I always drink beer.)

        2. Thanks. Two or three years back, Dave made an open invitation to everyone that posts regularly in the comments section to submit guest posts. This included both veteran and non veteran, conservative and non conservative, etc.

          I’d anticipate that LC, Commissar, C2Show, and others would put guest posts up that would get engagement. There are others here, who have put out well thought out posts, that we’d like to see submit guest posts.

        3. Inviting the likes of the resident moron to prove just how dumb it is means only one thing……
          “I don’t see how anything could possibly go wrong with this idea”…
          Like Captain Edward Smith with his idea to leave the Titanic at full speed in the middle of a known iceberg field in the hands of his First Mate while he goes below to catch a few winks in the chartroom……
          Yep…….
          We are doomed…….

          DOOMED I SAY !!!!!!

          1. Nah. Lars is just a yappy little cross-eyed dog that always needs to play ‘Fetch’. Trouble is, once the stick has been tossed, Lars never finds it…

          2. Guess post submissions would be subjected to moderation. They would be reviewed and, if qualified for posting, given “air time.”

      3. I’m down with that. I’ve been wanting to work on my writing but I’m too much of a technological luddite to bother with a blog or website.

        Got a few ideas in mind already.

      5. Personally think the idea of TAH’s readership contributing and/or writing is a good one and if it counts, you have my vote.

      6. To piggyback on this. We have mentioned before anyone is welcome to submit guest articles.

        Many of you already have AW1Ed’s Email or mine, but for those that don’t, masonvalorguardian@gmail.com is mine. Reach out any time with story tips, questions, or suggestions.

        1. Just add “@yahoo.com” to my username for those who want to submit their ideas to me. Place your username in the subject line.

  5. Hack Stone would like to claim First Post for The This Ain’t Hell Weekend Open Thread for Friday August 6, 2021. Will the Internet cooperate and bestow that highly coveted and rarely awarded Two Consecutive First Post title to this deserving Director Of Media Relations for a proud but humble woman owned business that sells software to the federal government formerly located in Bethesda Maryland? We shall see.

    1. Shit! Shit! Shit! The thrill of victory, the agony of defeat. Hack gets the Bronze Medal, but will be kneeling in solidarity with BLM during The This Ain’t Hell Anthem. Hack Stone has always been a supporter of BLM, Bureau Of Land Management.

      2. Negative!! On the first time a five-way tie for First has occurred.

        Back on the 03 Feb 17 WOT, ex-OS2, CWO5USMC, ChipNASA, Mick and David all entered the same time stamp of 12:52 pm.

        ex-OS2 claimed the title that day./smile

        2. Anyone hear from CWO5USMC recently? The last time Hack heard from him was when he invited Hack to his retirement ceremony. Hack had to decline because he could not find someone to cover his shift spinning the big arrow sign hawking Red Hat Software at the River Road exit of The Capital Beltway.

        3. Added info:

          Another five-way tie for First occurred on the 23 Aug 19 WOT when 5th/77th FA, ChipNASA, 26Lima Beans, Thunderstixx and The Stranger all entered with the same time stamp of 1:04 pm.

  6. President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neanderthal B Woodman Domestic Violent Extremist SuperStraight says:

    Mother-eff! Fourth?

    1. President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neanderthal B Woodman Domestic Violent Extremist SuperStraight says:

      Correction. Fifth. And I’ll take that much of Johnny Walker Black, or some other suitable top shelf distilled aged alcohols in compensation

  7. With a nod of acknowledgement to Sparks for his achieving the coveted, always-earned, never-given FIRST on the WOT, and another acknowledgement that my F5 key isn’t as fast, I present instead my weekly collection of trivia for all to enjoy.

    DID YOU KNOW…?
    What was the “surprise” in a 16th-Century Surprise Pie?
    By Commissioner Wretched

    The Dog Days of Summer are once again upon us. Are you aware of why we call them that?

    Long ago, during this time of year, people thought that the additional heat of an August day was caused by an additional star. The Sun, of course, is our closest star, but ancients thought that the brightest star in the night sky, Sirius – also called the Dog Star – provided additional heat.

    Thus, since the heat came from the brightest star in the constellation Canis Major, or the Great Dog, these are the Dog Days.

    These are days of trivia, too. Right here!

    Did you know …

    … the kind of peanut butter you prefer may depend on where you live? A survey conducted by one of the major producers of peanut butter found that people living on the east coast of the United States prefer creamy, while those living on the west coast prefer chunky. (I guess Midwesterners like me prefer both, eh?)

    … the word “toady” has a rather gross etymology? The word is now used to describe someone who flatters in the hope of gaining favors from another person. But originally, a “toady” was an assistant in a magician’s act who ate live toads as part of the show. Because toads were considered to be poisonous, when the “toady” didn’t die, it was seen as an indication of the magician’s abilities. (Ribbit!)

    … a porcupine’s quills are soft when it is born? It takes about an hour after the porcupette is born for the quills to dry out and become prickly. (I would certainly hope they’re soft at birth!)

    … French bank customers can write a check on just about anything? Since 1935, French banking regulations have stated that a check can be written on any durable surface that can be reasonably handled without damage. (It’s highly unlikely that you can write checks on toilet paper, though. It’s not durable.)

    … you can get carpal tunnel syndrome in your feet as well as in your hands? If the syndrome develops in the feet, it’s called tarsal tunnel syndrome. (Whatever they call it, it’s painful!)

    … for every dollar you spend on popcorn at the movies, 90 cents is profit for the theatre? The markup is 788%. (Hey, they have to make their money somehow!)

    … a 16th-Century “Surprise Pie” really packed a surprise? Popular in England, a “Surprise Pie” was called that because once the crust was cut, a live animal would jump out of the pie. The pies were baked hollow on a wooden scaffolding, and had a trap door underneath. The animal would be put inside the hollow crust just before it was served. In most cases, small animals such as squirrels, birds or frogs would be inside the pie, just waiting for the unsuspecting pie cutter to wield his knife. (Eww, what a surprise!)

    … Roman gladiators did product endorsements? Sure, you thought athlete endorsements were a modern thing, but no – particularly successful gladiators in ancient Rome would actually endorse goods in the arena before fighting, and they would have their names promoting products on walls throughout the city. Additional trivia note: This fact was planned for inclusion in the 2000 movie “Gladiator,” starring Russell Crowe (born 1964), but was scrapped because the producers thought audiences would not believe it. (Nah, too modern.)

    … the first British monarch to set foot on American soil did so in 1939? King George VI (1895-1952) visited the World’s Fair in New York City that year. (If His Majesty tried to go to the Brooklyn Zoo, he may have accent-uated a diplomatic problem.)

    … the first woman to graduate from a U.S. service academy did so in 1980? Jean Marie Butler (born 1958) graduated from the U.S. Coast Guard Academy on May 28, 1980. Butler, who retired from the Coast Guard as a captain, was not the only woman in her graduating class, but because graduates are announced in alphabetical order – and because the Coast Guard Academy held its graduation before any other military academy – she is considered the first woman to graduate from an American service academy.

    … Greenland and Iceland are both misnamed? The island of Greenland has more ice on it, while the island of Iceland has more grass and trees. (Basically, Greenland is icy and Iceland is green.)

    … cold weather does not make people more susceptible to illness? Rather, it’s the fact that people are inside more, exposed to others, that leads to more colds and flu. (My mother never heard of that one.)

    … the Disney logo used from 1948 to 1972 was incorrectly based on its founder’s autograph? Though it is supposedly the way he wrote his name, Walt Disney (1901-1966) was quoted on numerous occasions as saying how difficult it was to sign anything to match that Disney logo.

    … geckos have no eyelids? Geckos actually have to lick their eyeballs to keep them clean. (Which makes their offering insurance somewhat icky, if you ask me.)

    … the movie role which had the most extensive screen tests was the lead role in “Gone With the Wind”? More than sixty actresses tested for the role of Scarlett O’Hara in the 1939 cinematic masterpiece. Before producers agreed on Vivien Leigh (1913-1967) for the iconic role, 149,000 feet of black and white test film and 13,000 feet of color film had been shot. (Frankly, Scarlett … well, you know. You do now, anyway.)

    … in Youngstown, Ohio, it is illegal to ride on the roof of a taxi? (Of course it is – you block the “Off Duty” sign.)

    Now … you know!

    1. Thanks as always CW.

      Roman gladiators endorsing products.

      “Buy Tracius’ Sandles and fight like a gladiator!”

      “I only use Ramius Maces in the arena. Nothing divides a head like a Ramius Mace. 10% off if you mention my name.”

    2. President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neanderthal B Woodman Domestic Violent Extremist SuperStraight says:

      Greenland was an appropriate name for that location, back-in-the-day when the calendar was dated in triple digits. The Vikings had several settlements there that lasted for several generations……..that is, until the encroaching ice sheets pushed them out. There are archeological digs going on that have found some of those settlements.

    3. “people living on the east coast of the United States prefer creamy”
      There’s a joke in there somewheres. I like the rough blend stuff, Teddie’s in the glass jar. None of those crappy oils, stabilizers.

      As always, great data!

    4. Thank You, again, CW, for another week of interesting trivia!

      Never knew that Geikos lacked eyelids as well as the info on Jean Butler..Good to see the Best Coast Guard In The World get some recognition!

      Keep Up The Great Work!

      😎😊

    5. Within GB’s lifetime in Texas it was legal to write a check upon any durable surface as well – and wooden shingles were one of the more common.

      J. Frank Dobie had a story about a man who did just that and the surprised (young) bank clerk didn’t know what to do.

      Someone got all sniffy about that and made the law we now suffer under.

    1. TOW, that is beautiful and professional modeling work there. You should be proud of your work. It takes much effort, time, patience.

      Bravo Zulu.

      1. I like to think that my skill level has finally reached “mediocre” after having been in the “shitty” category for so long. I’m far, far from professional. But thanks.

        Just closed up the fuselage of my baby daughter’s B-29 and discovered stepped seam around about 85% of the plane lengthwise. Blending that in will be only slightly more fun than dental surgery.

    2. Always interested in seeing your talented Artwork, TOW.

      Really appreciate you sharing it with us!

    3. Look forward to these posts every week TOW. Fine work, no doubt. Keep ’em coming, there’s probably more folks than you realize that appreciate it.

  9. In yet another ‘throw shit at the wall and see what sticks’ election conspiracy from Mike Lindell, China has hacked our votes. Not in one place, but literally every state. Let’s ignore, for the moment, that the data he shows is publicly available data just shown in ‘scary’ hexadecimal format, and instead zero in on just one of his many dubious claims that are explicitly mentioned. That Adams County, PA, had 33,111 votes ‘stolen’ from Trump.

    Now, per Adams County’s own results, link below, Trump won there 37,567 votes to Biden’s 18,254.

    Source: http://www.adamscounty.us/Dept/ElectVoteReg/Documents/Election2020/GeneralElection/AdamsCountyElectionSummary-ElectionDayMail-InProvisionalAndMilitaryOverseas.pdf

    Now, clearly, he can’t mean votes were switched for Biden, since Biden has far fewer than the 33,111 votes stolen. So the only reasonable interpretation is that in Lindell’s mind, Trump should’ve had an additional 33,111 votes – for 70,678 votes. Making the grand total of Trump’s and Biden’s votes 88,932 votes. Yet, there are only 72,388 registered voters in the county, per the same official document above.

    This shit is so stupid. Rudimentary math disproves it.

    Link for more – sadly no direct source from Lindell yet, as he’s going to ‘reveal all’ at his “cyber symposium” next week. I can’t wait.
    https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/05/politics/mike-lindell-mypillow-ceo-election-claims-invs/index.html

    1. LC,

      Reference your post:

      This is supposedly the report that Mike Lindell shared with President Trump:

      https://theamericanreport.org/2021/01/11/exclusive-proof-china-russia-hacked-2020-election-ip-addresses-in-china-russia-hong-kong-germany-canada-czech-republic-hacked-pa-nv-mi-ga-battleground-states-raw-data-analytics-show/

      Who knows what may transpire years from now.

      LBJ stole an election, which was not uncovered to the general public until after his death.

      IMHO, something bizarre DID happen the night of the 2020 election. Too much of a coincidence that when the ninja family retired to bed on Election night, that not only President Trump was ahead, but other Republicans were ahead as well.

      Even happened in our District for a seat for the House. The Republican candidate was leading HIGH in the votes…and yet, mysteriously, after 0200 hours, the Democrat starting getting votes to beat the Republican candidate…and yet, all the local election seats (e.g Mayor) went Republican.

      Too much of a coincidence.

      Have always believe (1) Something Good Always Comes Outta Of Something Bad (2) One Reaps What They Sow and (3) Karma Is A Bitch.

      Most important, I believe in a Higher Deity. Some Folks BELIEVE they can get away with their lies and deceit, but in the end, God and his Son ALWAYS prevail.

      ALWAYS.

      Again, time will tell. We all have different viewpoints, look at situations through different perspectives.

      Because after all, if we all think alike, our world would be pretty boring…KoB and I would not get to mess with AW1Ed on “gabn” as well as the “Danger Zone” movie….Plus, we need Commissar and you to sharpen our Debate Skills as well as being our ChewToys or get new sayings for our very own ChipNasa “Fire In The Hole!!” Sandblast….

      😆😅🤣😂

      (You know I’m messing with you, right?)

      Thanks for sharing, LC.

      😎😉

      1. Who knows what may transpire years from now.

        I know that 2 + 2 will still not be 7.

        Again, these claims are impossible via basic math.

        With that said…

        MHO, something bizarre DID happen the night of the 2020 election. Too much of a coincidence that when the ninja family retired to bed on Election night, that not only President Trump was ahead, but other Republicans were ahead as well.

        ..I’m not unsympathetic to people who feel this way. Because I’ve been through that too. I recall watching the results come in during the Bush v Gore election in 2000, and, again, as a bit of a math nerd, I was very alarmed when I saw a large and sudden movement in the results in my state.

        It wasn’t going to change the outcome, but all of a sudden, votes that were roughly 60/40 flipped and had a roughly 20/80 split the other way! Pretty fucking shocking, certainly!

        I was damn near convinced something nefarious was up,… until I learned that results don’t come in randomly – the batch of votes just dropped came in from a very rural, Republican area in that batch. And it was one of the last few batches, with outlying counties trickling in slowly now, so there weren’t any other areas also reported giving a balance to things.

        Our brains aren’t good at that sort of thing; it’s like how people who gamble ‘feel’ like Red is due on the roulette wheel, because it’s been Black the last five times. Or how someone thinks it’s preposterous that the lottery might come up as 1-2-3-4-5-6, even though that has the same likelihood as last week’s winning Mega Millions numbers, 19-26-31-52-68-10.

        In the election, often bigger counties take longer to tally things, and thus report later than smaller ones, leading to a natural skew in votes based on time.

        This is like if I said to you, I’m going to give you and AW1Ed each some numbers to add up, and I want you to report to me the tallies, and I gave Ed 10 numbers to add, and you 1000, well, even if we played “Top Gun” in the background the entire time, driving Ed a bit crazy, he’d still finish sooner than you. I’ve given you both the same task (‘add up these numbers!’), but it’s going to lead to a natural ordering in who reports when.

        Now add in the demographic differences we see in smaller, rural counties and larger urban ones, and you can surely see why things can shift as late results come in.

        Too much of a coincidence.

        And I imagine you’d feel the same if someone pulled the numbers 1-2-3-4-5-6 for the lottery, correct? But like I said, it’s the same chance as any other set of numbers. Counterintuitive as that might be.

        Hope that makes sense – and, again, I sympathize, as it took me a while to come to terms with it, too. As for Lindell, nothing in that page had actual data, but the ‘cyber conference’ is just next week. I eagerly await the evidence, but it’s going to take a heck of a lot to explain how Chinese hackers attacked unconnected systems to delete so many votes for Trump that, were they counted, would indicate 129% turnout of registered voters. 😉

      2. Oh, and:

        (You know I’m messing with you, right?)

        I don’t mind; I come here to learn, and hopefully sometimes offer a reasonable alternative perspective on things.

        Again, time will tell. We all have different viewpoints, look at situations through different perspectives.

        Sure, but let’s agree on basic math, please! 😉

  10. Remembering today is the 76th anniversary of the bombing of Hiroshima, which along with the next bomb on August 9th, 1945 brought an end to the war with Japan.

    In honor, all those who fought were wounded and died in WWII. They will never be forgotten, at least not by us and others like us.

    God bless and keep the United States of America, now and forever.

    1. Thank You, Sparks, for reminding us.

      While stationed in Japan,the ninja family took a trip to Hiroshima.

      It was a very unforgetful, sobering experience.

      IMHO and my opinion only, the use of the A-Bomb was a necessary evil. No telling how many MORE lives would have been lost (on BOTH sides) or how much longer the war with Japan would have gone on.

      1. Amen to that Ninja, I myself am convinced that the use of the A-Bombs saved far more Japanese than American lives. Let’s not forget that the ruling Military Junta of Japan at the time was calling for every Japanese Citizen to fight to their own deaths should the US ever invade their home island.

      2. I completely agree with your opinion ninja. it was an absolute necessity to end the war. In fact, unless I am wrong or things have progressed, Purple Hearts are still being issued that were minted for the expected casualties of the invasion of the Japanese home island. Again, I may be wrong but I remember reading something to this effect a few years ago.

        1. That’s still the case, Sparks. They produced about half a million Purple Hearts in anticipation of the casualties resulting from the planned invasion of the Japanese homeland, and we are still issuing those – with several tens of thousands still left to be issued.

      3. Here’s a Prager University video providing a basic argument expanding on your last paragraph:

        1. thebesig:

          Thank You for sharing this.

          He NAILED it.

          Folks that don’t know HISTORY”…

          Sadly, we are currently seeing this in our Country with the “Woke” crew (think CRT, the War Between The States, Climate Change, Our Constitutional Rights, etc).

          Emotions seem to trump history, i.e. The Rest Of The Story.

          Apprciate the feedback from you as well as API, Sparks, Sapper3307, TOW.

          You All ROCK!!

          Thank You!

          😎😊👏👏👍👍

          1. Replace “White” with “Bourgeoise”, and “non white or equivalent” with “Prolateriat” and people would see the Marxist undercurrent of CRT and other Woke nonsense.

            People who grew up in communist countries are sounding the alarm over CRT, as they saw it play out in their own countries. Based on the history in these communist countries, CRT would result in members of the “oppressor group” suffering crimes to include murder that the perpetrators get away with.

        2. Today’s moonbat libtards/commie History Revisionists conveniently overlook such things as The Rape of Nanking, The Bataan Death march, the deeds of Unit 731, The Dutch West Indies and other things to whitewash their views, I say those libs are not worth even a squirt of rat piss!

    3. “Once, I was on a discussion panel with [Enola Gay pilot] Col. Paul Tibbets in the U.S. and somebody asked me what I thought about the A-bomb. I said “If Japan had had the bomb, and they told me to fly the plane that carried it and bomb San Francisco or something, I would have done it gladly. That’s a soldier’s job. To follow orders and fight for his country.” I think Tibbets was a great hero for the U.S. To fly out there with just two B-29s and no fighter escort, that takes a lot of guts. At the time, nobody knew about the A-bomb; there was no international treaty against its use, like there was for chemical weapons. The U.S. even dropped leaflets warning people in Hiroshima that a new weapon was going to be used. That’s just war.”

      —WO Saburo Sakai, IJN, Zero pilot with 64 air-to-air kills

      1. there was no international treaty against its use, like there was for chemical weapons.

        Interesting he brings that up since the IJA used chemical weapons against the Chinese hundreds (possibly thousands) of times during the war.

        Imperial Japan was every bit as evil as Nazi Germany. They just had much better post-war PR.

    4. Years ago, the young woman I was dating took a course in college with a history teacher who said that dropping the A-bomb was immoral.

      When she told my dad that, it was one of the few times I can remember him being physically angry. He took tome off of work to go to the class and question the teacher on why it was immoral. (I was blessed to go with him.)

      “Have you ever served in the military?” he asked the professor. (No.)

      “Have you ever lost someone who was in the military?” (No.)

      He then said this: “On December 6, 1941, like many Americans I was concerned about the war going on around the world. Then Pearl Harbor happened. On December 8th, I, my 3 brothers and a nephew signed up to fight. Two of us never came back. One from Europe and the other from the Pacific where I was stationed. If you don’t think that we, the people that were there, didn’t welcome the bomb being dropped so that hundreds of thousands and maybe millions of people did not get a telegram starting out with “The Department of the Defense is sorry to inform you…,” you don’t know crap.”

      The professor hemmed and hawed and my dad then said, “there’s a difference between those who look at history in the rear view mirror, and those who lived it. My family and I put our lives on the line so you can lie to these kids, but that doesn’t make your lies ethical or moral. And it sure as hell doesn’t make you qualified to teach on this subject.”

      My dad died several years after that. It is one of the best memories I have of him. So angry yet so composed. So polite, yet so forthright. All that he had learned as a Master Sergeant in the Marines was on display that day in that classroom.

      In my opinion, he had not only earned the right to speak, but he was correct in what he said.

      1. My nephew spouted the same nonsense to me about the immorality of dropping A-bombs on Japan. He told me his professor said it and he agreed. I asked my nephew if he know the Japanese were working on A-bombs? That shut my nephew up for a while.

      2. The fact that dropping bombs on Japan was necessary is not the same as it being moral.

        In war something can both be necessary and immoral at the same time.

        Also, there is the question of the target selection and the necessity of those targets to end the war Vs other potential targets with less civilian casualties.

        A counterfactual on other potential targets with less civilian casualties is impossible to prove so not worth discussing at length.

        What is known to be true is that the bombs killed approximately 200,000 people from the immediate blast or within months does to injuries and radiation. Estimates of total deaths due to the bombings is over 300,000 with long term health effects impacting tens of thousands if not a few hundred thousand more.

        Hiroshima in particular was selected because of its large population and because the mountain would focus much of the energy of the blast onto the city making the destruction more substantial and the effects more “spectacular” to increase the psychological impact of the blast on the Japanese people.

        In previous air raids, particularly incendiary raids, leaflets had been dropped days or weeks prior in order to reduce civilian casualties, increase anxiety, and to increase civilian pressure on the Japanese government to end the war. The leaflets were so effective that the Japanese government made it illegal to possess one.

        Prior to Hiroshima and Nagasaki the leaflet drops were suspended because maximizing destruction was a mission priority. Saving lives was explicitly rejected as a mission consideration during target selection.

        Japan was on the ropes. Their navy was essentially destroyed, and their Air Force was no longer capable of effective engagement, despite the availability and willingness of kamikaze fighters.

        The war was going to end. And invading the mainland was not necessary to end it. The Japanese has already made it clear that they wanted to negotiate and end to the war. Including surrendering captured territory. They just refused to accept the demands for an unconditional surrender.

        Invading the mainland was NOT necessary to end the war or save lives. Invading the mainland was going to be necessary to force an unconditional surrender.

        The use of nuclear weapons was an alternative to achieve and unconditional surrender.

        However, moral considerations clearly took a back seat during target selection and were less important than maximizing destruction and the psychological impact of that destruction.

        All arguments claiming it was “moral” because it saved the lives of the hundreds of thousands, and potentially more than a million that would have died in an invasion of the mainland assumes an unconditional surrender was the only possible outcome that would have ended the war.

        It wasn’t.

        Also, post war intelligence and historical interviews of Japanese high command has made it clear that the Japanese were not going to use the same defense in depth strategy that they used in Okinawa. It was precisely that strategy that caused the Battle of Okinawa to be so destructive…, essentially leveling the entire island.

        In Japan the plan was to throw literally everything they had, including thousands of Kamikazes at the landing force.

        One single last ditch defense at the points of landing.

        Once the Americans had established a foothold on the mainland Japan would have fallen. There were no plans to defend Japan further because the Japanese high command did not want the Island devastated like Okinawa and previous islands had been.

        .

        2. Commissar, Hack Stone has just one question for you. What color is the sky in your world? Every book that Hack Stone has read about Japan in the summer of 1945 directly contradicts everything you wrote above. The Japanese military had plans in place to have civilians, to include women and children, face off against the US military with spears and bombs attached to their bodies to throw themselves against tanks. You also fail to mention the failed military coup that took place in an attempt to prevent Hirohito from broadcasting the announcement that Japan would surrender.

          As to whether Japan would surrender conditional or unconditional terms, they pretty much ceded that option after the devastation that they wreaked throughout Asia. They literally went on a murderous rampage in Nanking raping and killing until the city existed no more.

          The atomic bombings were necessary. You call it immoral, but Hack Stone’s Father, who was drafted into the Army upon turning 17 (yes, he was drafted within weeks of turning 17) and serving in the Pacific, would be inclined to disagree with you.

          1. Most of what is written is written as though American assumptions about the Japanese were true.

            American Intel interpreted the Japanese tradition of Bushido to mean the civilians would fight to the death.

            The phrase “There are no civilians in Japan” was used during the invasion planning in an intelligence report. That report became assumed historical fact for years.

            Until the last months of the war the Japanese had no organized civil defense force. In March 19945… a volunteer corp was ordered. This volunteer corp was explicitly unarmed and in fact was and only trained in first aid, casualty evacuation, and firefighting.

            Subsequently it was ordered to converted by decree to a “militia” with the intention of being the second line of defense. However, this was never done. Instead they were used in construction and transportation and managed rationing of supplies to civilians. They were never armed (though there were plans to so eventually) which is why the Americans assumed they would be fighting with swords and spears.

            In fact recruitment of the the defense force was a huge task and had only recruited about 5-10% of decreed numbers. Most civilians having only attended one or two training sessions. Few had even a single session that included combat training of any sort. Most were simply assigned civil support tasks with no training.

            Japanese war planners knew there would be no civilian defense force in time for any invasion and thus simply ignored the efforts to create one in their war planning.

            Japanese war plans to defend Japan we’re entirely about repelling the invasion at the beach and do not include civilians as part of the defense of the island at all. There was no second line of defense in the Japanese war plan. Likely because there was no way to organize a militia before an invasion and the civilians that had been conscripted were already being put to use in construction, transportation, firefighting, first aid, casualty evacuation and rationing. https://fas.org/irp/eprint/arens/chap4.htm

            Now all of this came out after the war.

            At the time it there was certainly reason to believe that this newly formed civilian corps would be a fighting force.

            However, we actually had not seen Japanese civilians fight to the death in outlying territories. Even in Okinawa. There were a few guard units conscripted, thrown into uniforms, and thrown into the fights…but nothing like the notion that the Japanese population would fight to the death.

            Civilians fled in fear of American forces. Sometimes choosing suicide due to fears of their treatment and due to orders by the Japanese military that they should commit suicide to avoid capture. Though there is a dispute among historians about that claim that the military order them to commit suicide.

            Regardless; The civilians didn’t fight.

            As for other targets for the nuclear attack; plenty of ways of displaying the nuclear capability would have resulted in fewer civilians casualties. Even among the officially considered targets, all of which had mass civilian casualties… a half dozen would have produced less casualties. But the destruction was a stated mission priority. So it was decided that maximizing destruction was necessary.

            1. ‘Most of what is written is written as though American assumptions about the Japanese were true’.

              – Context? Supporting HISTORICAL statements?!

              ‘American Intel interpreted the Japanese tradition of Bushido to mean the civilians would fight to the death’.

              – No supporting FACTS!

              ‘The phrase “There are no civilians in Japan” was used during the invasion planning in an intelligence report. That report became assumed historical fact for years’.

              – AND?! Context?!!

              ‘Until the last months of the war the Japanese had no organized civil defense force. In March 19945… a volunteer corp was ordered. This volunteer corp was explicitly unarmed and in fact was and only trained in first aid, casualty evacuation, and firefighting’.

              – Spelling and syntax errors throughout and factually incorrect –
              The Shōwa period- Bright Peace aka Enlightened Harmony –
              formed the Tonarigumi – The Neighborhood Association (隣組, Tonarigumi) was the smallest unit of the national mobilization program established by the Japanese government in World War II. It consisted of units consisting of 10-15 households organized for fire fighting, civil defense and internal security. Neighborhood mutual-aid associations existed in Japan since before the Edo period. The system was formalized on 11 September 1940 by order of the Home Ministry (Japan) under Imperial Rule Assistance Association by the cabinet of Prime Minister Fumimaro Konoe. Participation was mandatory. Each unit was responsible for allocating rationed goods, distributing government bonds, fire fighting, public health, and civil defense. Each unit was also responsible for assisting the National Spiritual Mobilization Movement by distribution of government propaganda and organizing participation in patriotic rallies. Later in the Pacific War the tonarigumi received basic military training to serve as observers for enemy planes over cities or suspicious boats along the coasts. In the final stages of war the Imperial government intended the tonarigumi to form a secondary militia in the case of enemy invasion. Some tonarigumi took part in combat in Manchukuo, northern Chōsen and Karafuto in the closing days of the Pacific War. Formally abolished in 1947 by the American occupation authorities, the system survives to a certain extent in the modern chonaikai, or jichikai which are nominally independent voluntary associations.

              ‘Subsequently it was ordered to converted by decree to a “militia” with the intention of being the second line of defense. However, this was never done. Instead they were used in construction and transportation and managed rationing of supplies to civilians. They were never armed (though there were plans to so eventually) which is why the Americans assumed they would be fighting with swords and spears’.

              No. Read ACTUAL history if you’re actually literate..

              ‘In fact recruitment of the the defense force was a huge task and had only recruited about 5-10% of decreed numbers. Most civilians having only attended one or two training sessions. Few had even a single session that included combat training of any sort. Most were simply assigned civil support tasks with no training’.

              – Supporting FACTS?

              ‘Japanese war planners knew there would be no civilian defense force in time for any invasion and thus simply ignored the efforts to create one in their war planning’.

              – Incorrect and untrue. Context?

              ‘Japanese war plans to defend Japan we’re entirely about repelling the invasion at the beach and do not include civilians as part of the defense of the island at all. There was no second line of defense in the Japanese war plan. Likely because there was no way to organize a militia before an invasion and the civilians that had been conscripted were already being put to use in construction, transportation, firefighting, first aid, casualty evacuation and rationing’. https://fas.org/irp/eprint/arens/chap4.htm

              – FOR ONCE you actually cite FACTS from a reliable source.. AMAZING!!!!

              ‘Now all of this came out after the war’.

              – No..

              ‘At the time it there was certainly reason to believe that this newly formed civilian corps would be a fighting force’.

              – More Commie-czar-ZEK drivel and supposition..

              ‘However, we actually had not seen Japanese civilians fight to the death in outlying territories. Even in Okinawa. There were a few guard units conscripted, thrown into uniforms, and thrown into the fights…but nothing like the notion that the Japanese population would fight to the death’.

              – READ actual WAR DIARIES from the Battle of Okinawa. Two out of three Okinawans were forced to fight for the Japanese Imperial Army.

              ‘Civilians fled in fear of American forces. Sometimes choosing suicide due to fears of their treatment and due to orders by the Japanese military that they should commit suicide to avoid capture. Though there is a dispute among historians about that claim that the military order them to commit suicide’.

              – Yes, they did commit suicide in droves because the Japanese forces told had the Okinawans what U.S. Forces would probably do to them upon capture.

              ‘Regardless; The civilians didn’t fight’.

              – See above.. WRONG again..

              ‘As for other targets for the nuclear attack; plenty of ways of displaying the nuclear capability would have resulted in fewer civilians casualties. Even among the officially considered targets, all of which had mass civilian casualties… a half dozen would have produced less casualties. But the destruction was a stated mission priority. So it was decided that maximizing destruction was necessary’.

              – NOT supported and/or underscored with any historical FACTS.

              Yup. You REALLY need to try to understand what FACTS are actually for and how to properly underscore the position of your argument but I guess it’s just easier for you to recall half-truths and unlikely stories and cobble them all together with grade-school misspelling and kindergarten syntax.. FRAUD.
              FUCK OFF.

          2. Anyway,

            There we so many civilian casualties in the atomic bomb attacks in Japan because casualties were a stated mission priority to they wanted the maximize the psychological impact of the attacks.

            You can certainly claim that was necessary, but claiming it was moral is a stretch,

            1. At least you didn’t shit your pants over Donald trump this time, but here you go again with your off the wall crap claiming that the USA was wrong. AS TO claiming who was more moral, how about the actions of the Japanese starting with The Rape of Nanking, the Bataan Death March, the Dutch West Indies, their use of POWs for slave labor,…

              1. API®™ – Commie-czar-ZEK would’ve preferred that all of us now speak Japanese. After all, ‘History’ is just a malleable construct for this FRAUD.

          3. Hack – really GOOD response but Commie-czar-ZEK only has one colour wherever his sky is – Fraudulant BLACK

        3. ‘The fact that dropping bombs on Japan was necessary is not the same as it being moral’.

          – REALLY?! You’re going try and LECTURE us with your funky perception of MORALITY?

          ‘In war something can both be necessary and immoral at the same time’.

          – Is this your ‘voice of experience’ or is this just another one of your idiotic pre-conceived notions..?

          ‘Also, there is the question of the target selection and the necessity of those targets to end the war Vs other potential targets with less civilian casualties’.

          – Also known as Civilian versus Military target selection…and?

          ‘A counterfactual on other potential targets with less civilian casualties is impossible to prove so not worth discussing at length’.

          – a contradictory statement(at best)..

          ‘What is known to be true is that the bombs killed approximately 200,000 people from the immediate blast or within months does to injuries and radiation. Estimates of total deaths due to the bombings is over 300,000 with long term health effects impacting tens of thousands if not a few hundred thousand more’.

          – You seem to have blinked and missed the fact that Operation Meetinghouse(the Tokyo raids) killed more Japanese citizens than both Hiroshima and Nagasaki strikes.

          ‘Hiroshima in particular was selected because of its large population and because the mountain would focus much of the energy of the blast onto the city making the destruction more substantial and the effects more “spectacular” to increase the psychological impact of the blast on the Japanese people’.

          – No. Major General LeMay and team selected Hiroshima as a target, owing to the FACT that it had not been included in any previous conventional or fire-bombing operations – considered to be a ‘virgin target’ – and as such, would offer a more precise BDA(Bomb Damage Assessment) for this ‘new weapon type’.

          ‘In previous air raids, particularly incendiary raids, leaflets had been dropped days or weeks prior in order to reduce civilian casualties, increase anxiety, and to increase civilian pressure on the Japanese government to end the war. The leaflets were so effective that the Japanese government made it illegal to possess one’.

          – Yup. Except that you forgot to mention that days prior to the Hiroshima mission, several leaflet raids were conducted – now known as the “LeMay Leaflets”. FACTS, M,man. FACTS!

          Prior to Hiroshima and Nagasaki the leaflet drops were suspended because maximizing destruction was a mission priority. Saving lives was explicitly rejected as a mission consideration during target selection.

          – Nope. No historical reference…

          ‘Japan was on the ropes. Their navy was essentially destroyed, and their Air Force was no longer capable of effective engagement, despite the availability and willingness of kamikaze fighters’.

          – belabours known and historically recorded information. *YAWN*

          ‘The war was going to end. And invading the mainland was not necessary to end it. The Japanese has already made it clear that they wanted to negotiate and end to the war. Including surrendering captured territory. They just refused to accept the demands for an unconditional surrender’.

          – Again, short and fuzzy on actual FACTS – the Japanese civilian government(not the Military) made it clear to the RUSSIANS that they did want to negotiate a peace settlement that DID NOT include UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. If you actually knew – the Russians had otherwise plans of their own.

          ‘Invading the mainland was NOT necessary to end the war or save lives. Invading the mainland was going to be necessary to force an unconditional surrender’.

          – Which one? Necessary to invade or not?!

          ‘The use of nuclear weapons was an alternative to achieve and unconditional surrender’.

          – apparently your understanding of actual history is contrived and grossly misunderstood.

          ‘However, moral considerations clearly took a back seat during target selection and were less important than maximizing destruction and the psychological impact of that destruction’.

          – If you actually READ and UNDERSTOOD that critical moment in history, you’d know that there was a substantial amount of discussion as to the MORALITY of this mission.

          ‘All arguments claiming it was “moral” because it saved the lives of the hundreds of thousands, and potentially more than a million that would have died in an invasion of the mainland assumes an unconditional surrender was the only possible outcome that would have ended the war’.

          – FACTS?

          ‘It wasn’t’.

          – WHY WASN’T IT? Yet another unsupported statement…

          ‘Also, post war intelligence and historical interviews of Japanese high command has made it clear that the Japanese were not going to use the same defense in depth strategy that they used in Okinawa. It was precisely that strategy that caused the Battle of Okinawa to be so destructive…, essentially leveling the entire island’.

          – Not factually supported. And as usual, spelling and syntax are predictably absent. Do you even know what commas and periods are actually used for..?

          I’n Japan the plan was to throw literally everything they had, including thousands of Kamikazes at the landing force’.

          – Factually incorrect.. The Kamikaze(Divine Wind) program was initiated on Oct 14th, 1944 and their designated targets were ships(destroyers, cruisers, etc) but more importantly; aircraft carriers.

          ‘One single last ditch defense at the points of landing’.

          – Yes. But you don’t attest as to who would’ve actually comprised Japan’s primary defense force – it’s citizens..armed with whatever they could lay their hands on.

          ‘Once the Americans had established a foothold on the mainland Japan would have fallen. There were no plans to defend Japan further because the Japanese high command did not want the Island devastated like Okinawa and previous islands had been’.

          – Yet again, you make a supposition with NO actual supporting FACTS.

          Commie-czar-ZEK – makes it better-than apparent that he’s never heard of or read Santayana‘s reference of ‘Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.’ ‘Course it’s also fair to say that Communists don’t have to be literate or really understand history – like Commie-czar-ZEK, they just make it up as go… 😎👍

    5. Any discussion of whether the bomb was necessary must include that the US ordered (and produced) more than 1.5 million Purple Heart medals for projected casualties from the planned Invasion of Japan.

      Due to the bombings, 1.5 million American men were spared wounding or death. So many were spared that those Purple Hearts from WWII production are still being issued today (though they may have finally run out just recently) 75 years and counting after the war. Our casualties in all our wars since 1945 have only now (or soon will) exceed what was expected of Operation Downfall.

      The scale of WWII is just inconceivably large.

      3. ‘ more than 1.5 million Purple Heart medals for projected casualties from the planned Invasion of Japan’ and from what I understand, those WWII vintage medals are still be issued to this day. Mind-blowing…

    6. If those two bombs had not been dropped, a large number of whiners who exist now and whine about it likely would NOT exist today.

      1. There’s a damn good chance that as least one of them wouldn’t have been, that worthless crotch stain disgrace to his family Lucian K. Truscott IV…

  12. PB – crunchy! Bacon – cooked but not crunchy.

    Sitting in the ER waiting on daughters test results. Had to drive her to the ER for extreme cramps/pain…prayin’ hard.

      1. GB, Sparks, Ninja… nothing definitive showed up in blood, urine, sonogram, or CT scans. The drugs they gave her seem to be working and she is home resting. Life is good again.

    2. My thoughts and prayers are with your daughter as well as you and your family David.

    3. Prayers for your Daughter…and for YOU, David.

      “For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.”

      1. Talked to her a minute ago… meds are working but symptoms persist. Essentially the ER said ‘we dunno, but here’s some drugs.’ Doc appt Monday maybe will turn up something. At least the meds let her cope. Could be worse!

  13. Present and unaccountable.

    Ol’ GB was snoozin’ on the couch. Did some work in the gardens (vegetable and rose) and a bit of other piddlin outside, then hiding from the heat again.

    Bummer of a week for my friends.
    One of the men in my Sunday School class lost another cousin when she got COVID at her brothers funeral. This is after losing his mother a few months ago.
    One of the men in my Sunday School class lost his sister yesterday after a long fight with her illness.
    A long-time friend lost her grandmother after a long fight with dementia.

    Hug your loved ones and don’t take life for granted.

    Have a great weekend.

    1. GB:

      Thank You for sharing…Prayer Chain aleady started for your Friends.

      Hope your Son is feeling better these days.

      You have a great weekend as well!

      1. IIRC, the libtards were ALL against the vaccine while Donald J. Trump was in Office, but now they’re demanding that everyone get it and have to carry “travel Papers” just like in the USSR or Nazi Germany!

    1. They already have all that OMP data the 0bummer admin gave them.
      Not to mention all the Apple biometric details on anyone thats been within spitting distance of an ifone.
      What, me worry?

    2. Really would like to see the dossier on Executive Board Members of The Dutch Rudder Gang. Handwritten notes on Bernath’s file would include “Why asshole leave flight line without fueling up?”

    3. Go ahead CCP.
      Embarrass me fuckers.
      Try.
      I already have publicly associated and typed the words “Gay two-penised albino goat porn” on my news aggregator meme site, to get laughs, stolen from someone *ELSE’S meme (it goes without saying) from at *least* 4 or so years ago, SO, LOOK OUT JAPAN, CCP is trying to INtraweb shame people.
      Fuck China, We just Elected Joe Biden for PRESIDENT.
      How in the Flying MONKEY FUCK are you *possibly* going to embarrass us MORE?!?!?!

    4. Wonder if they still have the REAL information on Ted Kennedy and Mary Jo as well as OJ Simpson?

      Asking For A Friend.

      😎😉

        1. Great Minds Think Alike, Chipster….

          Was thinking the EXACT same thing…

          😆😅🤣😂😆😅🤣😂

          Do you think they got the scoop on Ole Joey Boy and Tara Reade (and CornPop)…

          How about Lover Boy, Ole Eric Swallow?

          Maybe they will leak that Ole Ralphie Boy Northam was really dressed in a KKK outfit versus Blackface?

          How about Ole Forgin Frank with his PH and Bronze Star?

          How about Ole Vietnam Jan Spann…or Ole Maggie DeSanti?

          The folks in Elko, NV who were fans of Ole Les Brown better watch out!

          I could go on and on and on…

          😎😉

    5. Chicoms gonna chicom– while we sit around whining (and, for some, looking at midget donkey cuckold porn or such).

    6. China? Oh, they’re building nuclear missile launch sites in the desert now. Photos and story later.

      What happened to Spy vs Spy, anyway?

    1. IMHO it couldn’t happen to a more deserving bunch. if it weren’t for waiting rooms in airports I’m sure their numbers would be about half of that!

  18. Claw, todays garage sale find.

    TM 9-1276/ TO 39A-5 AD-2

    1953

    It is in excellent condition, 20 cents.

    2. If you like mediocre carbines with a weak cartridge.

      (Thats a troll)

      Cal. .30 Carbines M1, M1A1, M2, and M3 Rifles. Good find!

      1. Bought 1 in H.S. for hunting, traded it for something with a little more smack down.

        1. I had an opportunity to acquire an M-2 from the widow of its owner who was a Korean War vet. I declined cuz I couldn’t afford to deal with a potential federal felony conviction.

  19. The guy on the left-hand side of the picture is not as smart, funny, or interesting as the guy on the right-hand side of the picture.

  20. Tomorrow, 7 August 2022, is Purple Heart Day.

    Speaking of Purple Heart…

    Check Out This Dirtball:

    “Burglar Steals Vet’s Purple Heart, Trades It For Soda, Deputies Say”

    https://nypost.com/2021/08/06/burglar-steals-vets-purple-heart-trades-it-for-soda-deputies/

    “A burglar broke into a North Carolina home and stole a Vietnam vet’s Purple Heart medal – which he traded for a two-liter bottle of soda”.

    “Charles Aaron Carr, 31, is being sought by deputies for allegedly breaking into a Caldwell County home and swiping the Purple Heart of Vietnam vet David Laws, who died in 2016.”

    “Erica Laws said she kept her father’s two Purple Hearts, two Bronze Star medals and nearly 12 other war accolades he received after two tours of duty next to ashes at the family’s home, where Carr allegedly broke into several weeks ago.”

    “Investigators said Carr traded one of pilfered Purple Hearts for a two-liter bottle of Mountain Dew Code Red. The person who received it altered authorities after seeing news reports of the incident, leading to Laws”.

    1. Right after you mentioned the purple heart theft, I initially read “A burglar broke into a North Carolina home…” as “A f*r broke into a North Carolina home…”

      1. The stabber’s first name is “Karen”. Now we know one of the things that could happen if the manager is not available. 😆

  21. “9/11 Families Say Biden Unwelcome At 20th Anniversary Memorial For Refusal To Release Key Documents”

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/9-11-ceremonies-biden-skip-transparency-families

    “Nearly 2,000 people who were directly affected by 9/11 are calling on President Biden to not participate in any 20th anniversary ceremonies unless he declassifies government documents they believe will implicate Saudi Arabia in the terrorist attacks.”

    “We cannot in good faith, and with veneration to those lost, sick, and injured, welcome the president to our hallowed grounds until he fulfills his commitment,” nearly 1,800 first responders, family of those killed in the attacks, and survivors wrote in a statement obtained by NBC News.”

    “The group says Biden pledged during the campaign cycle to be more transparent and release information, but that his administration has not answered requests from them upon his inauguration.”

    “Twenty years later, there is simply no reason — unmerited claims of ‘national security’ or otherwise — to keep this information secret,” the group wrote. “But if President Biden reneges on his commitment and sides with the Saudi government, we would be compelled to publicly stand in objection to any participation by his administration in any memorial ceremony of 9/11.”

  22. “84 Year Old German Sentenced After Hiding WWII Nazi Tank, Anti-Aircraft Cannon In His House”

    https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/military-culture/2021/08/06/84-year-old-german-sentenced-after-hiding-wwii-nazi-tank-anti-aircraft-cannon-in-his-house/

    “A German resident in the northern town of Heikendorf was sentenced this week to a suspended prison sentence of 14 months nearly six years after authorities discovered a World War II-era arsenal in the defendant’s cellar, a collection that included a 1943 40-ton tank aptly known as the “Panther of Heikendorf” and an 88 mm anti-aircraft cannon.”

    “The defendant, named only as Klaus-Dieter F. in German reports — as German privacy laws restrict full identification — was ordered to pay a €250,000 fine, or approximately $300,000 USD.”

    “The defendant reportedly purchased and restored the tank in late 1970s, when it was brought to Germany after sitting untouched in an English junkyard for decades.”

    “Although he stored it in his cellar, Klaus-Dieter F. wasn’t shy about showcasing his prized possession. According to local reports, the defendant drove it on multiple occasions, even using it as a snow plow during a particularly harsh winter.”

    “The 84-year-old former financier had his house raided in 2015 after authorities saw some of the artifacts while conducting searches for stolen Nazi art.”

    “In addition to the tank and flak cannon, officials found a mortar, a torpedo, 70 rifles and machine guns and more than 1,000 rounds of ammunition. Most items were determined to be non-operational.”

    “The topic of the weapons’ working order, meanwhile, instigated debates as to whether the defendant violated the country’s War Weapons Control Act. Sentencing reflected a ruling that nearly all items in the arsenal were “not war weapons within the meaning of the War Weapons Control Act, because they are no longer usable as such,” a court spokesman said.”

    “Instead, the collection was classified as museum items.”

    1. And that friends is the difference between a citizen and a subject..
      Gun control is all about control, not about guns.

      1. IMHO Their wanting to disarm the public is a signal that they want to do something that would get them shot.

  23. Long day today… had to talk my girlfriend in to the local ER this morning. She has had problems with her asthma due to the smoke from fires in the state this week, but it was worse when she woke up. A couple of hours ago, she a a CT scan with contrast and has a couple of clots in her lungs and is staying in for a couple of days to get her on heparin and dissolve the clots. protocols haven’t changes since I retired… probably could have talked the staff through the diagnosis tree based on her health history and symptoms.

    Wasn’t able to be with her in the ER or in the hospital – the facility had an outbreak of Chinese Delta Flu last week (20+ patients and staff). She’s tough, but it’s gonna be a long weekend for both of us.

    BTW – we both got immunized back in March.

    Just asking for some prayers for her… miss not seeing her right now.

          1. If I ever get a free moment, I’ll see what I can do.. we generally run at least one brush fire in the area of his range each year, some dummies using incendiary / tracer rounds on red flag days..

    5. Thanks to all

      Update… she had an 18 hour wait in the ER for a bed on a floor (fucking unsat). Still having pain, but should be home tomorrow. Got her on Elequis for the clots. Suck not seeing her because of the restrictions on visitor access.

      Again, thank to all… it means a ton to both of us!

      1. Good news, at least on the treatment side of things. Prayers for y’all will continue.

    6. I wish our and your girlfriend the best HMCS.

      Glad these were caught and I hope she has not long term effects.

      Are you unable to be with her due to Covid protocols on the ward? That is tough. I am sorry you can’t be by her side. Hopefully they can move her soon.

      2. It’s for the entire hospital – they had a Delta outbreak about 10 days ago (20+ staff and patients) and had just changed their visitor access policies last Wednesday…

    7. Sending prayers for strength and recovery for you and your girlfriend, your way HMCS(FMF) ret

  25. Truth be told…
    It’s apparent that conservatives are ALSO annoyed
    by hearing the truth (by fellow conservatives)
    about the knuckleheads who breached, smashed, and
    fought at the D.C. Capitol on January 6.

    I’ve now heard way too many conspiracy theories about Antifa and (blah blah blah),
    and total horseblinders to the obvious…
    the Proud Boys affiliations, the ties to GOP politicians at the local and state level,
    and of course… THE LANGUAGE.

    This guy’s brother Samuel Lazar was arrested and charged late July.
    On FakeBook, he (Adorian Lazar) now hashtags
    #FreeSamuelLazar
    #SamIsAPoliticalPrisoner
    #SamIsAPoliticalPawn
    while asking for letters to the court,
    failing to mention that
    (1) Samuel Lazar MACED D.C. AND Capitol Police,
    even though he touts “Back the Blue” elsewhere, and
    (2) HE (Adorian Lazar) TOOK PART
    in a failed straw man purchase of a gun,
    that got his (now jailed) brother Samuel Lazar convicted a few years ago.

    This past conviction has led the judge to keep Samuel Lazar in jail,
    until the next hearing, and likely until trial.

    So, IF any of you are rightwingnuts,
    spare me the pity for poor Samuel Lazar,
    who is hardly a “Patriot”,
    and falls into the category of convict nutjob rightwingnut.

    Here… Brother Adorian Lazar and friend Gil McDonald
    were ALSO in D.C. on January 6.
    Committed no crimes…. but speak as awfully as those who did.
    “BOXES” (coffins). “BODY BAGS”.

    Meanwhile, younger brother Samuel Lazar put on the faux military crap,
    painted his face (internet hashtag #FacePaintBlowhard),
    incited with a bullhorn, and sprayed his mace.

    You figure it out.
    They deserve the internet shame, too.
    Any Republican who stands up for this…
    and thinks Samuel Lazar should get off…
    is a poor example of a Republican.
    Certainly NOT a “Patriot”.

    GOP rant done. Thank you for reading.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwWszmC5NLA

  26. NOT a bad day all in all, got some hedges trimmed and the new bird feeder is up. Yes, a Bird Feeder and like Epstein, it didn’t hang itself!

  27. When employees get to dictate to business owners what political views must be promoted on the company property, Hack Stone takes his wallet elsewhere. Of course, Hack Stone would not be shopping at one of these “upscale businesses”, as he cannot justify spending 400% for a slice of beef.

    https://nypost.com/2021/08/04/fleishers-closed-after-staff-walks-out-over-blm-sign-removal/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&sr_share=facebook&utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPFacebook&fbclid=IwAR35aN7AHCVVOhUTdlIgk8reICmj3X1uwbG2-3enT2iq7x6sco4ofsIecZ8

    2. I always heard that that move “Took out the trash” in a lot of Airports.

    1. Roh – I REALLY tried to get through the entire video but at the twenty two second mark with the Nancy Pelosi character… Think I’m now scarred for life… *shudder*

  30. One summer, a lot of years ago, we were going down to New York City to visit family. On our way through New York state, we stopped in Rochester to get something to eat. I looked across the road to see a VFW sign that said “Welcome General Tibbets – autographs signed from 12:00 to 16:00 hrs”. I looked at my Dad and said “Can we”? He smiled and “I’ll ask your Mom” and when he came back outside of the restaurant, he said “Let’s go, we’ll meet her back here in an hour or so”. The line-up was so long that we waited almost forty five minutes before we got to the VFW entrance point. Upon seeing my Dad’s RCAF Association pin, the ticket-seller gave Dad the ‘Veteran and dependants rate’ and in he and I went only to be greeted with another really long line up for the autograph table itself. My Dad said “wait here, I’m going to go get us something to drink”. He departed and the line-up then seemed to go pretty quickly and within a few minutes – there I was, standing in front of THE MAN himself – General Paul Tibbits. I completely froze and General Tibbets quietly said “ We’ll, do you want an autograph Son”? I could only nod Yes and he casually grabbed another black and white 8 x 10 picture of the Enola Gay out the stack, autographed it and handed it to me and said “Anything you might want to ask me”? I nodded Yes and said without thinking “Do you ever loose any sleep for doing what you did”? General Tibbets smiled and said to my Dad “Great kid” and then turned to me and said “Nope. Not one wink”. Shook my hand and a few minutes later, we made our way through the crowded VFW and rejoined my Mom. My Mom asked, “did you guys have fun, did you manage to get your autograph”? I just smiled and showed her the freshly autographed picture and she said “Lucky lil man, years from now you can say you met and shook hands with a REAL American hero”. According to her, I didn’t utterly a peep until we were almost at the outskirts of New York City. And yes, to this day I still have that autographed picture and treasure it greatly.
    As an adult and now knowing what I know, I now know only this – The Golden Generation was faced with some incredibly difficult decisions and in a lot of cases, they didn’t have a helluva lot time to debate those decisions. As my Granddad said, “If we hadn’t made some the terrible choices that we had to, we’d all be speaking German or Japanese now”. THANK GOD SUCH MEN LIVED!!!!

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