{"id":96849,"date":"2020-03-10T11:38:00","date_gmt":"2020-03-10T15:38:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/valorguardians.com\/blog\/?p=96849"},"modified":"2020-03-10T13:32:36","modified_gmt":"2020-03-10T17:32:36","slug":"vov-thoughts-on-schumer","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=96849","title":{"rendered":"VoV thoughts on Schumer"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-96850 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/schumer-300x169.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/schumer-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/schumer-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/schumer-500x281.jpg 500w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/schumer.jpg 931w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><br \/>\nSenate Minority Leader Charles Ellis Schumer (D-NY)<\/p>\n<p>Welcome Veritas Omnia Vincit back, TAH&#8217;ers. He&#8217;s taken the time to dig into Senator Schumer&#8217;s recent unfortunate remarks on the steps of the Supreme Court building, seemingly threatening Justices Kavanaugh and Gorsuch on their potential decisions on a Louisiana law concerning abortions (discussed here- <a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=96637\">Dems Go Full Retard At Supreme Court<\/a>). There has been considerable backlash, from Chief Justice Roberts, various Republican politicians and even a couple Democrat legal experts. but was Schumer within his Constitutional Rights to make those remarks?<\/p>\n<h3>In Defense of Chuck Schumer (well, sort of)<\/h3>\n<p><strong>Veritas Omnia Vincit<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Much has been made of Senator Schumer\u2019s ill advised comments regarding Kavanaugh and Gorsuch recently. Some have even proposed a motion to censure Senator Schumer. In conjunction with this, sometime last week a discussion was had here at This Ain\u2019g Hell where in the comments a point was made about infringing our rights and our fellow Americans regular acceptance of that these days. Consequently it seemed a good moment to revisit some of my thoughts on what the law is and what the intent of the founders might have been based on their writings when it comes to things like where should the law be drawn around conduct and speech.<\/p>\n<p>With respect to Senator Schumer\u2019s first amendment right to be as big a buffoon as he likes when speaking the founders were pretty clear on this topic.<\/p>\n<p>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.<\/p>\n<p>What\u2019s interesting about shall make no law is how many people think the founders actually meant, \u201cmake a few laws\u201d. We know this to be true because we keep hearing our fellow citizens talking about limiting speech, after all what benefit to society is there of that dreaded \u201chate\u201d speech? What benefit to society comes from hearing hateful words spoken by hateful people who want hateful things to happen to other Americans? So they say we should not allow such things, usually followed by the favorite of such people, \u201cafter all you can\u2019t yell fire in a theater!\u201d\u2026. as if that were the definitive argument. Most people don\u2019t actually know the legal case that created that comment in the first place. Not only do they not know that case they don\u2019t know that a year later the Justice who coined that phrase reversed himself on a separate case, nor do they know that case\u2019s entire \u201cclear and present danger\u201d premise allowing the law to limit speech was changed 50 years later to one of imminent unlawful action incited by said speech. For simplicity\u2019s sake, what does all that mean really? Your view may be different but mine is rather simple, it means that our vaunted Supreme Court can and often does change its understanding of the premise of each and every amendment to suit the political aims of the government that appointed it at the time. In the case of the fire comment America had entered WW1 and Congress passed a law that said no one can interfere with the military or recruitment for the military in time of war. Two socialists had written a pamphlet suggesting that conscription violated the 13th amendment\u2019s prohibition against involuntary servitude and suggested that the public disobey the draft but advised everyone to be peaceful in their disobedience. The two were arrested and charged with violating that Espionage act by interfering with the draft\/recruitment of the military. Interestingly enough Oliver Holmes a year later would reverse himself in the Abrams case, claiming the government was not able to show an actual clear and present danger when two other socialists produced leaflets denouncing the war, calling for a strike in ammunition plants, advocating a cessation of weapons production to be used against Soviet Russia. In the first case the defendants were sentenced to 6 months in prison while in Abrams they were sentenced to 20 years. So clearly even Holmes had an issue with his thoughts on the matter and after consideration had decided perhaps the government\u2019s limits on speech were not nearly as obvious as he had first explained a year earlier.<\/p>\n<p>If nothing else those three cases should illustrate something that most Americans should find uncomfortable. That our thought about being a nation of laws as if the law itself were an immutable absolute is an abstract thought not born out in the reality of our nation\u2019s use of the law not as a protector of the general welfare, but as a mechanism of control to stifle dissent during unpopular actions by our government. We tell ourselves these comfortable lies about what the law is because if we actually considered the state of law in the United States today against the actual words of the founders we the people might finally be righteously angered and take action to remove our elected representatives from office. Which those representative would really not like to happen. So they promote the propaganda that we are a nation of absolutes, That we have these god given rights that are safe from government intrusion, except those rights have been eroded by a series of laws enacted to \u201cprotect\u201d us that actually give the government massive power to intrude into those rights virtually unrestricted.<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s a great quote from Jefferson when talking about our rights, \u201c Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add &#8216;within the limits of the law&#8217; because law is often but the tyrant&#8217;s will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>We can certainly discuss what your equal rights are with respect to the exercise of my rightful liberty, but it\u2019s a safe bet that what Jefferson meant wasn\u2019t that we should be discussing the censure of Chuck Schumer over some stupid commentary. Of course Schumer is a disgusting hypocrite because he was quite happy when Obama arrested a journalist for blaspheming Islam, a pretense to cover gross ineptitude in Benghazi.<\/p>\n<p>Senators who suggest that we censure other Senators for speech are the kind of Senators who will also gladly limit your speech if it suits their political goals.<\/p>\n<p>My hope in writing these articles is that you find a couple of takeaways to consider, where do we the people actually want the government involved in our lives and why\u2026and does the law in our Republic actually serve the founders desire to protect the individual from the tyranny of the majority? My answer to the latter is a firm &#8220;not at all&#8221;. We are happily devolving into a society divided along party lines, economic lines, and racial lines because it suits the \u201cruling class\u201d to keep us after each other instead of after them.<\/p>\n<p>I will continue to be the misguided nudge I\u2019ve always been, that surly curmudgeon who distrusts not only my neighbors but my government to my very core largely due to my personal experience and observations. There are few things that are made better with the generous application of government to the problem.<\/p>\n<p>So Chuck Schumer, you sir are an asshole of the first order. You are a hypocrite, you are also exactly what is wrong with the elected representatives of this nation. You lack integrity, you lack honesty, and you lack any actual moral fiber that would define character as honorable in any normal American citizen. And yet, I will never seek to punish you formally for your disgusting verbal outbursts. My sincere hope is that your constituents will come to their senses and punish you in the most appropriate manner, by returning you to the private sector post haste.<\/p>\n<p>Beyond that, say your peace and be prepared for the commentary from the cheap seats, because we will also choose to exercise our rights you disgusting, reprehensible, liar.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>As always, feel free to tell me exactly how wrong I am. See you in the cheap seats my friends.<\/p>\n<p>VoV<\/p>\n<p>As always, thank you for your thoughts and insight, VoV. Agree or not, we all look forward to your writings.  <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Senate Minority Leader Charles Ellis Schumer (D-NY) Welcome Veritas Omnia Vincit back, TAH&#8217;ers. 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