{"id":83791,"date":"2018-12-30T11:00:56","date_gmt":"2018-12-30T15:00:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/valorguardians.com\/blog\/?p=83791"},"modified":"2018-12-29T19:14:11","modified_gmt":"2018-12-29T23:14:11","slug":"should-president-trump-give-in","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=83791","title":{"rendered":"Should President Trump Give in?"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_64942\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-64942\" style=\"width: 500px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-64942 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Code-Pink-Against-Trump-500x286.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"286\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Code-Pink-Against-Trump-500x286.jpg 500w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Code-Pink-Against-Trump-300x171.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Code-Pink-Against-Trump-768x439.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Code-Pink-Against-Trump.jpg 886w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-64942\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Orange Man Bad<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>More leftists demonstrate their lack of understanding of the game President Trump is playing. He&#8217;s playing chess. Not only is he considering each move, but several moves ahead for each move he considers.<\/p>\n<p>The opposition? They&#8217;re not even playing checkers.<\/p>\n<p>Folks, not familiar with the art of making a deal, criticize an expert deal maker. Their experience stems from commenting from their computers.<\/p>\n<p>In this first quote, from the thread starter, President Trump is criticized for not taking action to end the shutdown:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Originally posted by <b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.democraticunderground.com\/100211602078\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">MineralMan<\/span><\/a>:<\/b><\/p>\n<p>The Democratic House will NOT give him his wall, but will pass a CR. In fact, they&#8217;ll do that right away and send it to the Senate, which will almost certainly pass it as well. No wall. Just funding for government operations. That&#8217;s what the CR bill should be in any case. Trump&#8217;s in a snit. He may veto such a bill and continue the shutdown, all over his stupid Wall.<\/p>\n<p>He is going to absolutely OWN this shutdown. It is, and will be, on his head. <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><strong>How long will he maintain that shutdown? Who can say? Perhaps until he is impeached and removed by the new Congress. Now, that&#8217;s something I would enjoy seeing.<\/strong><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>A Republican Senate working with a Democrat House against President Trump? Apparently, MineralMan doesn&#8217;t pay attention to news that matters. Word from the Senate shows consistency with the President.<\/p>\n<p>And, just how is a Democrat House going to remove President Trump?<\/p>\n<p>Without realizing it, one of those that responded touched on President Trump&#8217;s success with regards to defining the argument:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Originally posted by <b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.democraticunderground.com\/100211602078#post3\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">lancelyons<\/span><\/a>:<\/b><\/p>\n<p>I hate that the media doesnt portray it this way.<\/p>\n<p>they seem to think that its the dems job to give in or they are also guilty of the government shutdown.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Whether it&#8217;s the responsibility of the Democrats, or that of President Trump, the later wins. The Democrats are willing to spend more than 5 billion dollars on other programs, but seem to want to fight over the issue of allocating 5 billion dollars for the wall.<\/p>\n<p>Well, they laughed at President Trump&#8217;s comments about getting Mexico to pay for the wall. Not happening, right? Well, our next contestant is insisting that is precisely what he should do:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Originally posted by <b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.democraticunderground.com\/100211602078#post6\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Achilleaze<\/span><\/a>:<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Why don&#8217;t Dem spokesfolk pound him on Mexico $$$$<\/p>\n<p>Why hold US taxpayers hostage? The republicans promised Mexico would pay for it. Now he wants $5 billion of our tax money to pay for it? Bullshit. <strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">He needs to shut up, <u>let America be America<\/u>, and stick to his stupid promise to make Mexico pay for his stupid wall.<\/span><\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Chances are that this individual wants the government to spend money on one or more of the Democrat&#8217;s favorite social programs&#8230; And not on something that&#8217;s make it easier for Border Patrol to control movement into the United States.<\/p>\n<p>Would this guy tell the families, of those killed by illegal immigrants, that a border wall is stupid?<\/p>\n<p>This next guy has us &#8220;figured out&#8221;. We &#8220;didn&#8217;t&#8221; independently come to our conservative conclusions based on a collection of facts, information trends, etc. We &#8220;needed&#8221; a hot blonde woman to tell us what to think:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Originally posted by <b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.democraticunderground.com\/100211602078#post15\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">LiberalLovinLug<\/span><\/a>:<\/b><\/p>\n<p>The only difference is that Fox News can survive very nicely <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><strong>with the deplorables, racists, and the ignorant who like to watch a blond sex bunny tell them what to think (sadly).<\/strong> <\/span>But that is not a big enough demographic to guarantee an election win. Sure, they also cheat, and use enemies of the US against their competition, but Trump needs more than that this time.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>As with any other leftist, LiberaLovinLug argued a bunch of talking points. If conservatives were allowed to advance a conservative argument on Democratic Underground, this poster wouldn&#8217;t be able to defend that position. Other posters on that site wouldn&#8217;t be able to effectively defend their positions either.<\/p>\n<p>You could read the entire thread right <a href=\"https:\/\/www.democraticunderground.com\/100211602078\">here<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>More leftists demonstrate their lack of understanding of the game President Trump is playing. He&#8217;s playing &hellip; <a title=\"Should President Trump Give in?\" class=\"hm-read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=83791\"><span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Should President Trump Give in?<\/span>Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":661,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-83791","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/83791","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/661"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=83791"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/83791\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=83791"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=83791"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=83791"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}