{"id":83536,"date":"2018-12-17T13:25:30","date_gmt":"2018-12-17T17:25:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/valorguardians.com\/blog\/?p=83536"},"modified":"2018-12-17T13:08:44","modified_gmt":"2018-12-17T17:08:44","slug":"it-aint-just-about-guns-you-know","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=83536","title":{"rendered":"It Ain&#8217;t Just About Guns, You Know"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_83307\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-83307\" style=\"width: 345px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-83307\" src=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/12\/garand-gadsden-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"345\" height=\"230\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-83307\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Gadsden flag<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Early in November this year, the Anne Arundel county police went to a private home at 5AM to serve a gun seizure order on a 61-year-old man, under Maryland\u2019s newly-minted \u201cred flag law\u201d. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.capitalgazette.com\/news\/for_the_record\/ac-cn-red-flag-folo-1106-story.html\">https:\/\/www.capitalgazette.com\/news\/for_the_record\/ac-cn-red-flag-folo-1106-story.html<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe Anne Arundel County police chief defended Maryland\u2019s new \u201cred flag\u201d protective law Monday, just hours after a 61-year-old man was shot and killed while officers were trying to serve a court order requiring him to surrender his guns.<\/p>\n<p>Chief Timothy Altomare said the fatal shooting in Ferndale was a sign that the law, which went into effect Oct. 1, is needed. There have been 19 protective orders sought in the county since then, tying Harford County for the most in Maryland, according to a report on the first month. Statewide, about half of the 114 orders sought have been granted.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIf you look at this morning\u2019s outcome, it\u2019s tough for us to say \u2018Well, what did we prevent?\u2019 \u201d he said. \u201cBecause we don\u2019t know what we prevented or could\u2019ve prevented. What would\u2019ve happened if we didn\u2019t go there at 5 a.m.?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Altomare said the two investigating officers, who he did not identify Monday, \u201cdid the best they could with the situation they had.\u201d One of them fatally shot Gary J. Willis at his Linwood Avenue home. \u2013 Article.<\/p>\n<p>According to the article, Mr. Willis <em>did put the gun down on the floor.<\/em> \u00a0If so then, why was it necessary to shoot him, and why did those cops go there at 5AM and wake him up? Per the article, Linwood became agitated and picked up the gun and a struggle ensued. So why was it necessary for either cop to pull out a gun and shoot him, instead of calling for back up and putting him on the floor? \u00a0Is Anne Arundel County turning into Chicago?<\/p>\n<p>And who called the cops on him, anyway? Was it family or a disgruntled neighbor? Apparently, it was a family member, but why aren&#8217;t these people responsible enough to get him to counseling if he&#8217;s agitated about something?<\/p>\n<p>Regarding this incident in Marylnad, which is now a \u201cred flag law\u201d state, there are many questions left unanswered. I&#8217;m hoping they will be answered, because this is bizarre, from my point of view.<\/p>\n<p>As you may or may not know, red flag laws allow someone to make a call to the police and say you\u2019re some kind of threat, even if you are not.\u00a0 If this by itself does not smack of Stalin\u2019s era, then what is it? Someone likened it to \u201cMinority Report\u201d, a \u201cgag me with a spoon&#8221; movie with that midget actor TCruise. (N.B: if Scientology has so much influence, why isn\u2019t he more famous and more taller?)<\/p>\n<p>There are states that already have those laws in place. I think in Florida, there is also the Baker Act. Here\u2019s the list:<\/p>\n<p>Such orders are known as &#8220;Extreme Risk Protection Orders&#8221; (ERPO) in <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Oregon\">Oregon<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Washington_(state)\">Washington<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Maryland\">Maryland<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Vermont\">Vermont<\/a>; as &#8220;Risk Protection Orders&#8221; in <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Florida\">Florida<\/a>; as &#8220;Gun Violence Restraining Orders&#8221; in <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/California\">California<\/a>; as &#8220;risk warrants&#8221; in <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Connecticut\">Connecticut<\/a>; and as &#8220;Proceedings for the Seizure and Retention of a Firearm&#8221; in <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Indiana\">Indiana<\/a>. After the Parkland school shooting, more states enacted such laws: <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Florida\">Florida<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Vermont\">Vermont<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Maryland\">Maryland<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Rhode_Island\">Rhode Island<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/New_Jersey\">New Jersey<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Delaware\">Delaware<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Massachusetts\">Massachusetts<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Illinois\">Illinois<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>In Illinois, jumping through all those hoops to comply with state legislation has been tested several times now. As you may recall, the Mayor of Deerfield, IL, was slapped by the court for violating the \u201cunlawful search and seizure\u201d, \u201cdue process\u201d and all those other cautionary measures, in addition to violating the 2<sup>nd<\/sup> Amendment of the US Constitution. That sparked the Sanctuary County movement which is ongoing and becoming wider spread in the state of Illinois. (Hey, how about some Sanctuary States?)<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019d like to point out the obvious here. In the Florida Parkland school shooting, there were calls reporting the shooter and the police did absolutely nothing. He didn\u2019t have a \u201ccollection\u201d, which is something that is kept in order and looked after. He just had a big pile of guns. He did make threats because he didn\u2019t fit in at school and was bullied. The school did nothing about it. The people he lived with did nothing about him. And, finally, the police did nothing about his threats, even with the backup of the Baker Act, so there was \u00a0nothing that stopped him from his rampage.<\/p>\n<p>We must remember, too, that nothing stops cops from being jackasses either, which has a lot to do with what happened to Mr. Linwood. \u00a0The Chicago cop who shot LaQuan MacDonald shot him in the back 16 times, instead of in the leg to disable him. The Chicago cop who beat up a female bartender half his size because she wouldn&#8217;t serve him any more liquor is another example. When the police do these things, they make the rest of us doubt their sanity.<\/p>\n<p>And remember: we were subjected to Piglet and His Friend Pooh in Parkland, making their grandstanding appearances during their attention-whoring day or two.<\/p>\n<p>So when someone goes in to a panic attack over \u201cred flag laws\u201d, my response would be that he file a public complaint that a law like that does not comply with the US Constitution, does not allow due process or follow that part about &#8216;unreasonable search and seizure&#8217;. You have to sometimes stand up for your rights if you want to keep them.<\/p>\n<p>That it is Nazism and Stalinist KGB\/NKVD stuff at its worst, that it specifically follows those practices that led to concentration camps and gulags &#8211; those are all true, but has any of that come to pass? Use whatever legalities you can come up with, but keep it calm and assertive. Go through the courts and get that crap overturned. \u00a0At my age, if I&#8217;m not allowed to have a gun on me when I&#8217;m on the trails with a camera, in the odd but possible event that I may or might run into a rabid coyote (they never get their shots), I want to know why.<\/p>\n<p>You can file a complaint pro per or get the help of law students, and all of them need a shake-up now and then to rattle their complacency. They also need the real-world experience of dealing with something that they may not agree with, but which is still legally and constitutionally valid and\/or invalid, and they are required to do some real legal work in some states. Good practice for them.<\/p>\n<p>Seriously, if someone really wants to be Gestapo, shouldn\u2019t they at least wear the armbands and the insignia so we know who they are?<\/p>\n<p>Unless we take the old bullshit by the horns, the bullshit can and will bury us deep. We must always pay attention to our AO.<\/p>\n<p>The Bad Guys are out there in the darkness\u2026. And they want Your Guns. (Snerrkkkk!)<\/p>\n<p>Well, they DO!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Early in November this year, the Anne Arundel county police went to a private home at &hellip; <a title=\"It Ain&#8217;t Just About Guns, You Know\" class=\"hm-read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=83536\"><span class=\"screen-reader-text\">It Ain&#8217;t Just About Guns, You Know<\/span>Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":653,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[209,220,82,156,15,47,188],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-83536","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-teh-stoopid","category-the-floggings-will-continue-until-morale-improves","category-gun-grabbing-fascists","category-guns","category-legal","category-liberals-suck","category-reality-check"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/83536","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/653"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=83536"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/83536\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=83536"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=83536"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=83536"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}