{"id":83413,"date":"2018-12-12T14:00:23","date_gmt":"2018-12-12T18:00:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/valorguardians.com\/blog\/?p=83413"},"modified":"2018-12-11T20:15:11","modified_gmt":"2018-12-12T00:15:11","slug":"midweek-open-thread-5","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=83413","title":{"rendered":"Midweek Open Thread"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-66949\" src=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/160302005451-trump-and-hillary-exlarge-169-500x281.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/160302005451-trump-and-hillary-exlarge-169-500x281.jpg 500w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/160302005451-trump-and-hillary-exlarge-169-300x168.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/160302005451-trump-and-hillary-exlarge-169-768x431.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/160302005451-trump-and-hillary-exlarge-169.jpg 780w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Happy Hump Day This Aint Hell! Going to mix things up today and include comments and news from beyond Democratic Underground.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">This impeachment chatter is still strong among many on the left.<\/span> Somehow, many think that once he&#8217;s impeached, he&#8217;s &#8220;gone&#8221;. Well, &#8220;stopbush&#8221; educates them on how the process works. The House does the impeachment proceedings and vote for or against it, it&#8217;s up to the Senate to determine if removal is warranted (trial):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Originally posted by <b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.democraticunderground.com\/100211526226\">stopbush<\/a>:<\/b><\/p>\n<p>As long as we&#8217;re tossing around the word &#8220;impeachment,&#8221; can we at least use the word correctly?<\/p>\n<p>Impeachment in the United States is the process by which the lower house of a legislature brings charges against a civil officer of government for crimes alleged to have been committed, analogous to the bringing of an indictment by a grand jury. At the federal level, this is at the discretion of the House of Representatives.<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">The House impeaches the president. The Senate does not impeach the president. The Senate tries the articles of impeachment in a Senate trial<\/span><\/strong>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Never mind the stories about how the Clinton folks orchestrated things to come up with a phony information sheet on then candidate Donald Trump. The collusion could very well be on the Clinton side, but don&#8217;t tell that to these folks. Nope, <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">they appear to have already tried and convicted president Trump of collusion with the Russians to win the election:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Originally posted by <b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.democraticunderground.com\/100211526226#post20\">JonLP24<\/a>:<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><strong>Trump and Republicans sold us out for dirt on Hillary Clinton or whatever their motivations.<\/strong><\/span> Former CIA director said a Trump Putin press conference was nothing short of treason. With everything involved it is in the spirit of treason. The betrayal especially at a key time in US-Russia relations.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Looks like we have somebody here who is going to take a different approach. Not the one that requires wearing a black mask and a black outfit, not one going online to rant, <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">but one where somebody is going to attempt to &#8220;guide&#8221; the Trump administration from within<\/span>. It seems like this person is talking about somebody else doing this, the person reporting this wouldn&#8217;t even bother trying to do things this way:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Originally posted by <b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.democraticunderground.com\/100211531416#post13\">kennetha<\/a>:<\/b><\/p>\n<p>to be joining the Trump administration.<\/p>\n<p>One of my colleagues at work is headed to DC to take a post in State though. I wish him well. He&#8217;s a good guy. <strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Thinks he can teach the Trumpistas something about foreign policy.<\/span> <\/strong>I told him he&#8217;s setting out on a fool&#8217;s errand. Put he&#8217;s near retiring and sees a last chance to help turn the Trump shit show into something tolerable.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;d NEVER do it, even if I was ideologically inclined in that direction.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Did you guys know that This Aint Hell is declining in the rankings?<\/span> No worries, one of our frequent visitors reports on how we are doing, and points out some of our shortcomings in order to hit on how we could possibly reverse our decline:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Originally posted by <b>Cthulhu<\/b><\/p>\n<p>It is astonishing that you all turn on anyone who Trimp does not like or criticizes Trump.<\/p>\n<p>You all even turned against Admiral McRaven.<\/p>\n<p>Cult-like behavior.<\/p>\n<p>I also would not put so much effort in branding this site as a climate change denier site. <strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Hard to recruit new veteran readers since current service members overwhelmingly believe in climate change.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It is also the official position of the Department of Defense and the Pentegon that climate change is real.<\/p>\n<p>Half of the planning going on in national security is directly related to managing the consequences of climate change.<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">This site has dropped another 15.000 ranks globally in the last month.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Turns out climate denying is not a growth industry.<\/span><\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And, speaking of our local Berkeley graduate, the <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">University of California, Berkeley, reached a settlement with those whose freedom of speech was infringed<\/span>. From the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonexaminer.com\/red-alert-politics\/uc-berkeley-settles-landmark-free-speech-lawsuit-will-pay-70-000-to-conservative-group\">Washington Examiner<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In the settlement, UC Berkeley agreed to the following terms set by YAF:<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">* Pay YAF $70,000.<\/span><\/strong><br \/>\n<strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">* Rescind the unconstitutional &#8220;High-Profile Speaker Policy.&#8221;<\/span><\/strong><br \/>\n<strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">* Rescind the viewpoint-discriminatory security fee policy.<\/span><\/strong><br \/>\n<strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">* Abolish its heckler&#8217;s veto &#8211; protesters will no longer be able to shut down conservative expression.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Under these terms, UC Berkeley will no longer be allowed to place a 3 p.m. curfew on conservative events or relegate conservative speakers to remote or inconvenient lecture halls on campus while giving left-leaning speakers access to preferred parts of campus.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>According to the article, one of the things that Berkeley was doing was setting a 3 PM curfew for conservative events. Also, where they would provide desirable facilities to liberal commentators, they would provide facilities that are not always the best choice for conservative commentators. They were also charging higher security fees for conservative speakers than for liberal speakers.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Could the &#8220;me too&#8221; movement have reached the big boss?<\/span><\/p>\n<p>It looks like not even God is immune to the &#8220;me too&#8221; movement. A Minnesota Professor claims that the Virgin Mary didn&#8217;t truly consent to conceiving Jesus. Even though she said, &#8220;Yes,&#8221; she &#8220;did so&#8221; on the account that God had incredible powers.<\/p>\n<p>Through his tweets, this professor paints a picture of God, with his power and might, his ability to punish humanity for disobedience, as essentially impregnating a teenager.<\/p>\n<p>From the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailymail.co.uk\/news\/article-6471593\/Minnesota-State-professor-accuses-God-sexual-misconduct.html\">Daily Mail<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8216;The virgin birth story is about an all-knowing, all-powerful deity impregnating a human teen,&#8217; Sprankle wrote on Twitter. &#8216;There is no definition of consent that would include that scenario. Happy Holidays.&#8217;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And, finally, I&#8217;ll leave you guys with this video. A Muslim woman criticizing how we do things in the West.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"American burka woman says Christmas offends Muslims and it&#039;s &quot;Islamophobia&quot; to celebrate it\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/GAr6RGvECHg?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><template data-arve_cachetime=\"2026-01-14T10:03:48-05:00\" data-arve_iframe_src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/GAr6RGvECHg?feature=oembed\" data-arve_url=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=GAr6RGvECHg\" data-author_name=\"Mariusz Bilda\" data-author_url=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@mariuszbilda8322\" data-height=\"375\" data-provider=\"youtube\" data-provider_name=\"YouTube\" data-provider_url=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/\" data-thumbnail_height=\"360\" data-thumbnail_url=\"https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/GAr6RGvECHg\/hqdefault.jpg\" data-thumbnail_width=\"480\" data-title=\"American burka woman says Christmas offends Muslims and it&apos;s &quot;Islamophobia&quot; to celebrate it\" data-type=\"video\" data-version=\"1.0\" data-width=\"500\" class=\"arve-data\"><\/template><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Transcribed from the video, not precise but close:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><strong>Because many of those practices, from the west, are rooted in Christianity and the celebrations actually harm us.<\/strong><\/span> Now, the West is a multicultural society, it&#8217;s not like talking apples and oranges. Over there there is no right and wrong except what the government and people decide is right and what they decide is wrong. Now, if tomorrow they want to make it illegal to walk down the street wearing a hat, they can do that.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Looking forward to your thoughts. Enjoy Humpday, we are halfway to the weekend.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Happy Hump Day This Aint Hell! 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