{"id":80953,"date":"2018-08-03T08:01:30","date_gmt":"2018-08-03T12:01:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/valorguardians.com\/blog\/?p=80953"},"modified":"2022-01-13T20:34:51","modified_gmt":"2022-01-14T01:34:51","slug":"usmc-considers-no-first-enlistment-grunts","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=80953","title":{"rendered":"USMC considers no first enlistment Grunts."},"content":{"rendered":"

This kind of thing was toyed with back in the early 80’s.\u00a0 Some people think Marines that are at least on their second enlistment are better killers.\u00a0 Marine Corps Times<\/a> reports:<\/p>\n

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Older. Wiser. More seasoned. Deadlier.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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There\u2019s a controversial idea taking root at the \u00adPentagon: That Marines should wait an enlistment before joining the infantry, coming into\u00a0traditional rifle squads\u00a0<\/a>only after getting some experience in another career field.\u00a0 It would be a profound change that would make\u00a0Marine infantry units<\/a>\u00a0older, but potentially stacked with additional skill sets.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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It would also further blur the line between \u00adconventional infantry Marine and\u00a0special operator<\/a>, as they\u2019d be plucked from the same pool.<\/p>\n

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I got plucked from the pool…we just worded it a bit different.<\/p>\n

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Whether the 18-year-old grunt Marine model can continue to compete on the future battlefield is a question being scrutinized at the top levels of the Defense Department and among top officials close to Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, who is himself a former Marine infantry commander.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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One such man leading the charge is a retired general who chairs Mattis\u2019 Pentagon task force focused on boosting lethality of grunts.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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\u201cThe optimal age for a close-combat soldier, the \u00adbalance is \u2026 mid to late 20s,\u201d retired Army Maj. Gen. Robert Scales told Marine Corps Times.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n

That’s probably about right, I started at 17.\u00a0 Most are done with their first marriage by their second enlistment, their pay goes out in allotments and the Driftwood has them\u00a0 on the banned list, death doesn’t scare them anymore.\u00a0 Some of us even have a stripe or two left.<\/p>\n

Today\u2019s grunts have increasingly taken up the mantle of special operations missions where small detachments of Marines have deployed to advise and train foreign military units in remote and hostile \u00adenvironments \u2014 missions that require mature \u00adoperators and problem solvers.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Oh, they mean like Marines have always been doing.\u00a0 I can tell them from experience, maturity comes on pretty fast when you’re on the chopper flying into a country you can not pronounce in the middle of the night.<\/p>\n

\u201cSignificant focus is being placed on the human dimension,\u201d Marine spokeswoman Capt. Karoline Foote told Marine Corps Times. \u201cWe are evaluating and implementing improvements in how we recruit, train and retain our infantry Marines.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Ahh, I have read that kind of stuff before.\u00a0 It’s one of those “say nothing in 20 words or more” things.<\/p>\n

\u201cThe way JSOC [Joint Special Operations Command] operates is a telling point,\u201d he explained.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Aaaaaaand there we have it.\u00a0 People who have no idea what an EGA is, trying to dictate the manner in which Marines are to kill people.<\/p>\n

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One option the Corps could consider is saving a large portion of infantry slots for a second enlistment. A benefit to this would be the added \u00adexperience and skill sets carried over by Marines hailing from other support billets and functions into ground combat units.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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Infantry squads could potentially be stacked with Marines with experience in intelligence, electronic warfare, engineering or communications.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n

WTF?\u00a0 Ok, so I have to prance up to a platoon with Sgt (electronic warfare)\u00a0 and tell every one he is the skulling coach.\u00a0 Get the F*** outta here with that s***.\u00a0 The average 19 year old LCpl will break his ass.\u00a0 All I am trying to say is Combat Arms Marines can be a bit brutal…age got nuttin to do with it.<\/p>\n

\u201cWith 16 years of infantry background, I learned 80 percent of my ground pounding in my first four years,\u201d one Marine combat instructor told \u00adMarine Corps Times. \u201cAnd as the war has kind of slipped away from us, the majority of the seasoned fighters have moved on because with no war they feel cheated.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Bingo, all we are asking is Give War a Chance.\u00a0 \u00a0People, we have to keep our heads about us until this peace craze blows over.\u00a0 They go on and on but you will have to follow the link because they start quoting General Neller and it gives me gas.\u00a0 \u00a0I have led Marines into the unknown, never questioned the maturity of a singly one of them.<\/p>\n

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