{"id":7882,"date":"2009-02-15T15:55:28","date_gmt":"2009-02-15T20:55:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/valorguardians.com\/blog\/?p=7882"},"modified":"2009-02-15T16:12:35","modified_gmt":"2009-02-15T21:12:35","slug":"hanoi-jane-the-rash-that-wont-heal","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=7882","title":{"rendered":"Hanoi Jane, the rash  that won&#8217;t heal"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>1stCAVRVN11b and someone else wanted me to tell you about the Jane Fonda re-emergence last week (from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nypost.com\/seven\/02122009\/gossip\/pagesix\/traitor_jane_154692.htm\">NY Post&#8217;s Page Six<\/a>);<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/fonda-page-6.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-7883 aligncenter\" title=\"fonda-page-6\" src=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/fonda-page-6.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"411\" height=\"439\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/fonda-page-6.jpg 411w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/fonda-page-6-280x300.jpg 280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 411px) 100vw, 411px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s part of the transcript of a 1995 Wall Street Journal interview from former North Vietnamese General Bui Tan who now lives in Paris because of his dissatisfaction with the Vietnamese government;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Question: How did Hanoi intend to defeat the Americans?<\/p>\n<p>Answer: By fighting a long war which would break their will to help South Vietnam. Ho Chi Minh said,<br \/>\n&#8220;We don&#8217;t need to win military victories, we only need to hit them until they give up and get out.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Q: Was the American antiwar movement important to Hanoi&#8217;s victory?<br \/>\nA:  It was essential to our strategy.  Support of the war from our rear was completely secure  while the American rear was vulnerable.  Every day our leadership would listen to world news over the radio at 9 a.m.  to follow the growth of the American antiwar movement.  Visits to Hanoi by people like Jane Fonda, and former Attorney General Ramsey Clark and ministers gave us confidence  that we should hold on  in the face of battlefield reverses. We were elated when Jane Fonda, wearing a red Vietnamese dress, said at a press conference that she was ashamed of American actions in the war and that she would struggle along with us.<\/p>\n<p>Q: Did the Politburo pay attention to these visits?<br \/>\nA: Keenly.<\/p>\n<p>Q: Why?<br \/>\nA: Those people represented the conscience of America. The conscience of America was part of its war-making capability, and we were turning that power in our favor. America lost because of its democracy; through dissent and protest it lost the ability to mobilize a will to win.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/jane_gun.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-7884 aligncenter\" title=\"jane_gun\" src=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/jane_gun.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nFrom <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usvetdsp.com\/fonda_fiery_commie.htm\">US Veterans Dispatch<\/a>;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In late 1987, when it became known that Fonda planned to film her new movie &#8220;Stanley &amp; Iris,&#8221; in Waterbury, Conn., there was a huge backlash from local veterans. Veterans held rallies, promising violent demonstrations if the filming began. Many bumper stickers reading &#8220;I&#8217;M NOT FONDA HANOI JANE,&#8221; begin appearing throughout the community. On June 18, 1988, Fonda flew to Waterbury in an attempt to pacify the veterans. She met with them for four hours. Fonda later recalled &#8220;I told them my story &#8211; why I was antiwar and why I had gone to Vietnam.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>A few weeks later Fonda appeared on TV with Barbara Walters and apologized saying: &#8220;I&#8217;m very sorry for some of what I did&#8230;I&#8217;d like to say something not just to the veterans in Waterbury but to the men in Vietnam who I hurt, or whose pain I caused to deepen because of the things I said or did. I feel I owe them an apology&#8230;There were times when I was thoughtless and careless&#8230;I&#8217;m very sorry that I hurt them.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And now she&#8217;s fund raising for IVAW.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>1stCAVRVN11b and someone else wanted me to tell you about the Jane Fonda re-emergence last week &hellip; <a title=\"Hanoi Jane, the rash  that won&#8217;t heal\" class=\"hm-read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=7882\"><span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Hanoi Jane, the rash  that won&#8217;t heal<\/span>Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[8,37,47,30,5,7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-7882","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-antiwar-crowd","category-ivaw","category-liberals-suck","category-phony-soldiers","category-politics","category-terror-war"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7882","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=7882"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7882\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=7882"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=7882"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=7882"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}