{"id":6767,"date":"2009-01-04T10:49:41","date_gmt":"2009-01-04T15:49:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/valorguardians.com\/blog\/?p=6767"},"modified":"2009-01-05T05:38:02","modified_gmt":"2009-01-05T10:38:02","slug":"jesse-macbeth-on-ivaw","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=6767","title":{"rendered":"Jesse MacBeth trashes IVAW [Jonn]"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Jesse MacBeth, the poster child of the phony soldier movement, and I find common ground. I&#8217;ll admit I know what MacBeth says in this video isn&#8217;t completely true, because it&#8217;s Jesse MacBeth, for Pete&#8217;s sake. <\/p>\n<p>However, he admits that IVAW had his DD214 and they helped him forge the DD214 he tried to pass off as proof of his combat experience. For those of you who haven&#8217;t seen his <strong>real<\/strong> DD214, here it is, courtesy of our friends at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pownetwork.org\/\">POW Network<\/a>;<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/12\/mcbeth.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/12\/mcbeth.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"mcbeth\" width=\"500\" height=\"530\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-6388\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/12\/mcbeth.jpg 966w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/12\/mcbeth-283x300.jpg 283w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve always wondered about the DD214 forgery because MacBeth probably doesn&#8217;t have the brains to forge his DD214. But he also calls into question the character of service and the narratives coming from  IVAW members. <\/p>\n<p>He also says &#8220;higher ups&#8221; helped him perpetrate his fraud on themedia. He doesn&#8217;t name the &#8220;higher ups&#8221;, but at the time he inflicted himself on the stage, that could only mean the Veterans For Peace and VVAW clowns who were running the organization behind the scenes. <\/p>\n<p>Now, MacBeth also claims that some IVAW members were discussing bombings. I don&#8217;t believe that at all &#8211; unless he wants to give us names, dates and places of these discussions.<\/p>\n<p>Well, here&#8217;s the video on YouTube he apparently made just last week;<br \/>\n<object width=\"425\" height=\"344\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/DhCKBNHGI_0&#038;hl=en&#038;fs=1\"><\/param><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\"><\/param><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\"><\/param><embed src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/DhCKBNHGI_0&#038;hl=en&#038;fs=1\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" allowscriptaccess=\"always\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" width=\"425\" height=\"344\"><\/embed><\/object><br \/>\nLike I said, you can&#8217;t believe MacBeth completely, he&#8217;s an habitual liar. However, he makes some of the same points I have proven on this blog. It&#8217;ll probably be quite some time before we get disillusioned IVAW former-members coming out publicly, so this all we&#8217;ve got for now.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks to Skye at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.floppingaces.net\/2009\/01\/04\/jesse-macbeth-reveals-the-truth-about-ivaw\/\">Flopping Aces<\/a> and The Paratrooper of Love, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.blackfive.net\/main\/2009\/01\/the-jheri-curl.html\">Blackfive<\/a> for the links.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ADDED:<\/strong> There&#8217;s another video I didn&#8217;t think was important the first time, but since MacBeth still draws a crowd here it is;<br \/>\n<object width=\"425\" height=\"344\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/phUBgDfbz44&#038;hl=en&#038;fs=1\"><\/param><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\"><\/param><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\"><\/param><embed src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/phUBgDfbz44&#038;hl=en&#038;fs=1\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" allowscriptaccess=\"always\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" width=\"425\" height=\"344\"><\/embed><\/object><\/p>\n<p>And, for extra entertainment, TSO&#8217;s comments that MacBeth deleted at the YouTube link;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>He&#8217;s starting to monitor comments, but I got a few good ones in there<\/p>\n<p>jessemacbeth (8 minutes ago)  Reply<br \/>\ni suspect ur another ivaw idiot who dont like being exposed breing all your ivaw buddies here let them see the video and the others i am making exposing what frauds you all are<\/p>\n<p>e5infantry (12 minutes ago)  0    Reply | Spam<br \/>\nOMFG, this gets better by the second! You tried to kill yourself with aspirin?<\/p>\n<p>Same shit with me, only I tried to kill myself with Preparation H and Flintstones vitamins.<\/p>\n<p>e5infantry (13 minutes ago)  0    Reply | Spam<br \/>\nDude, this is the greatest video eveh. You are such a dipshit it is astonishing. You had me at &#8220;crusted blood&#8221;. You show &#8217;em RoughRider!<\/p>\n<p>e5infantry (16 minutes ago)  0    Reply | Spam<br \/>\nI suspect you may be going back to jail, if I am not mistaken, your eyebrows are actually a protected species of caterpiller. Which makes sense since apparently gypsy moths have been feasting on your brains for years.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>He goes on to tell Army Sergeant that he&#8217;s got a book deal in the works and that he&#8217;s going to spill the beans on IVAW in a big expose`. It reminds me of a nerd slap-fight.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jesse MacBeth, the poster child of the phony soldier movement, and I find common ground. 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