{"id":66509,"date":"2016-06-25T08:02:16","date_gmt":"2016-06-25T12:02:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/valorguardians.com\/blog\/?p=66509"},"modified":"2016-06-25T08:14:14","modified_gmt":"2016-06-25T12:14:14","slug":"truth-yeah-it-matters","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=66509","title":{"rendered":"Truth?  Yeah, It Matters."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m probably going to catch some grief for what follows.\u00a0 No matter.\u00a0 Some things are worth saying, popular or not.<\/p>\n<p>Jonn <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=66493\">wrote an article the other day<\/a><\/em> concerning the famous Joe Rosenthal Iwo Jima flag raising photo.\u00a0 The bottom line:\u00a0 one of the individuals identified 7+ decades ago as being part of the &#8220;flag raising&#8221; \u2013 PhM2c John Bradly, USN \u2013 was recently determined by the USMC not to have actually been in that photo.<\/p>\n<p>Predictably, since it concerned an icon this caused consternation \u2013 and accusations.\u00a0 Some commenters indicated that to them it \u201cdidn\u2019t matter\u201d.\u00a0 Others indicated a belief that it was part of some Leftist attempt to \u201csmear\u201d a hero.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s a free country, so to each his own. But I have a different point of view.<\/p>\n<p>The photo is also part of US history.\u00a0 And accurately recording that history is damned important.\u00a0 We owe that much to future generations.<\/p>\n<p>We also owe that to those who are now gone.\u00a0 We need to get their story as close to correct as we can \u2013 even when sometimes that\u2019s painful.<\/p>\n<p>What follows is a bit longish.\u00a0 Read or not as you desire.<\/p>\n<p><strong>. . .<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><u>Flags and Iwo Jima<\/u><\/p>\n<p>It turns out that \u201cflag raising at Iwo Jima\u201d is actually a quite\u00a0 complex subject.\u00a0 In truth, the famous and iconic flag raising photo on which the USMC Monument outside Arlington National Cemetery is modeled is only one of <u>multiple different<\/u> \u201cflag photos\u201d taken atop Mount Suribachi on 23 February 1945 &#8211; three of which have some degree of publicity.\u00a0 All three of those published photos are very different.\u00a0 Two of them were taken by Joe Rosenthal; the third was taken by SSgt Louis R. Lowery, USMC.\u00a0 There\u2019s also newsreel footage corresponding to one of the three \u2013 Rosenthal&#8217;s famous photo \u2013 which was taken by yet a third photographer: \u00a0 SSgt. Bill Genaust, USMC.<\/p>\n<p>It gets even more complex.\u00a0 There were actually <em>two different<\/em> \u201cflag raisings\u201d on the summit of Mount Surabachi on 23 February 1945.\u00a0 The photos Joe Rosenthal took \u2013 two different photographs, one of which became world-famous \u2013 were photographs of the SECOND flag raising that day.\u00a0 The first flag raising and its photos, though not completely unknown, are nowhere near as well known as the second.\u00a0 They are only rarely seen or discussed.<\/p>\n<p>Two of the three famous photos taken that day were candid.\u00a0 One was indeed staged \u2013 and no, it wasn\u2019t Rosenthal&#8217;s famous photo, which in turn means that the newsreel footage taken that day was also candid.<\/p>\n<p>And to make the situation even more convoluted:\u00a0 Bradley does indeed appear in two of the three publicly-known flag raising photographs taken that day atop Mount Suribachi.\u00a0 However, per the latest USMC investigation announced last week he does not appear in Rosenthal&#8217;s iconic photograph.<\/p>\n<p>Given the complexity of the situation and the fact that it occurred in combat, it&#8217;s perhaps understandable if not inevitable that errors were initially made in identifying the participants.\u00a0 But such errors can often be corrected \u2013 and if they can be corrected, they should be.<\/p>\n<p><u>The Flag Raisings and the Photos <\/u><\/p>\n<p>The first flag raising photo on Iwo Jima is not particularly well known.\u00a0 It was taken by SSgt. Louis R. Lowery, a USMC photographer.\u00a0 It is a photograph taken shortly after the <u>first<\/u> flag raising atop Mount Suribachi.\u00a0 (Lowery apparently took multiple photographs at the time; this is the most well-known one of the batch.)\u00a0 John Bradley appears in this photo; he\u2019s the individual near the center of the group, standing and wearing a helmet, with his hand holding the flagstaff.<\/p>\n<p><center><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/commons\/9\/92\/First_Iwo_Jima_Flag_Raising.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><\/center>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Historical accounts indicate that three Marines raised this first US flag on Mount Suribachi:\u00a0 1stLt Harold G. Schrier, who led the patrol that took the flag to the top of the mountain; PltSgt Ernest Thomas, his Platoon Sergeant; and Sgt Hank Hansen.\u00a0 None of the three participated in the second, iconic flag raising photographed by Rosenthal.<\/p>\n<p>So, why was there a second flag-raising at all?\u00a0 Well, it seems that a high Navy Department official &#8211; SECNAV James Forrestal, to be precise &#8211; had accompanied the landing force to Iwo Jima.\u00a0 On seeing the first flag raised on the summit of Mount Suribachi, Forrestal indicated he wanted that flag.<\/p>\n<p>That order was in turn relayed to LtCol Chandler Johnson, the Battalion Commander of 2nd Bn, 28th Marine Regiment, 5th Marine Div, whose forces had topped Suribachi and erected that flag.\u00a0 Johnson&#8217;s exact words on receiving this order are recorded as being, &#8220;To hell with that!&#8221;\u00a0 He then ordered his subordinates to obtain a second flag and raise it &#8211; &#8220;And make it a bigger one.&#8221;\u00a0 A team of four Marines \u2013 led by Sgt Michael Strank and including Cpl. Harlon Block, Pfc Franklin R. Sousley, and Pfc Ira H. Hayes \u2013 was given the mission of raising the second flag.<\/p>\n<p>One of the battalion\u2019s runners (messengers) \u2013 Pfc Rene Gagnon, who also ended up participating in the second flag raising \u2013 ended up in possession of this the larger flag (historical accounts differ on precisely where that larger flag was obtained and who obtained it). He took it to SGT Strank\u2019s team atop Mount Suribachi.<\/p>\n<p>The flag and flagpole used in the second flag raising were quite heavy, weighing together well over 100lbs; there was also considerable wind.\u00a0 When Gagnon arrived with the flag, Sgt Strank ordered Gagnon and another individual already on the summit to help.\u00a0 Strank and his team &#8211; augmented by Gagnon and the other individual &#8211; raised the second flag.\u00a0 (Bradley was apparently also on or very near the summit at the time, as he&#8217;s known to have assisted in stringing and securing the rope installed shortly afterwards used to stabilize the makeshift flagpole after erection.)\u00a0 The original flag was lowered and returned to the Battalion\u2019s command group.<\/p>\n<p>This second flag-raising was captured in-progress on both still film and newsreel footage.\u00a0 Joe Rosenthal took the iconic still photo; he damn near missed it, as he was piling rocks to stand on for a better vantage point when the Marines involved started to raise the flag and had to shoot hurriedly.\u00a0 SSgt Bill Genaust, USMC, took the newsreel footage while standing about 3 feet away from Rosenthal.\u00a0 Below is Rosenthal\u2019s original photo; the more famous version is a cropped version of this one.<\/p>\n<p><center><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.iwojima.com\/raising\/lflaga2.gif\" alt=\"\" \/><\/center>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Genaust\u2019s newsreel footage of the 2nd flag raising is found beginning at approximately 1:30 in the video below.<\/p>\n<p><center><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube-nocookie.com\/embed\/1-xGKIn_cnM?rel=0\" width=\"420\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/center>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rosenthal later had a largish group of Marines from the unit pose for a second, \u201cgung-ho\u201d photo with the second flag atop Mount Suribachi.\u00a0 This was the third Iwo Jima flag photo taken that day.\u00a0 Three of those who participated in the second flag-raising (Hayes, Strank, and Sousley) appear in this photo as well.\u00a0 Bradley also appears in this photo.<\/p>\n<p><center><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.iwojima.com\/raising\/l721flag.gif\" alt=\"\" \/><\/center>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Of the six men who raised the flag in Rosenberg&#8217;s iconic photo, three (Strank, Block, and Sousley) were later KIA on Iwo Jima \u2013 as was the photographer who took the newsreel footage, Genaust.\u00a0 The other three in the iconic photo survived the war.<\/p>\n<p>To recap: Bradley was indeed on the summit of Mount Suribachi during or very shortly after each flag raising on 23 February 1945. He was not one of the three that raised the first flag on Mount Suribachi, but does appear in both Lowery&#8217;s first Iwo Jima flag photo and in Rosenthal&#8217;s &#8220;gung-ho&#8221; posed version relating to the second flag.\u00a0 Per the recently-concluded USMC investigation, he was not in Rosenthal&#8217;s iconic photograph of the second flag raising; another individual was in that photograph and was afterwards erroneously identified as having been Bradley. Bradley did assist immediately afterwards in placing rope used to stabilize the newly-erected second flag. However, he does not appear to have personally and directly participated in the act of raising either flag.<\/p>\n<p><u>Prior Controversies<\/u><\/p>\n<p>As you can see from the above, the circumstances surrounding the Iwo Jima \u201cflag photos\u201d are complex and somewhat confusing.\u00a0 There were two different flag raisings that day; none of the personnel who raised in the first flag participated in the second flag raising. There are also three different flag photos &#8211; but there <u>is<\/u> personnel overlap among those photos. There is also newsreel film of one flag raising (the famous one).\u00a0 And this all occurred during combat, where things are often of necessity not neatly organized or accurately recorded at the time.<\/p>\n<p>As a result, there has been much confusion and multiple controversies concerning the events.<\/p>\n<p>Initially, Hayes didn\u2019t want to be identified as being one of the \u201cflag raisers\u201d; he wanted to remain anonymous.\u00a0 He secured a promise from Gagnon, who knew Hayes had participated in the second flag raising, not to reveal his identity.\u00a0 It took an order &#8211; and a blunt reminder that refusal to obey orders was a crime subject to prosecution &#8211; before Gagnon identified Hayes as being one of the six in the photo.<\/p>\n<p>At the time and afterwards, there were accusations concerning Rosenthal&#8217;s iconic photo that \u201cthe photo was staged\u201d.\u00a0 And indeed, one of the photos taken that day <em>was<\/em> staged.\u00a0 But the \u201cstaged photo\u201d <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">wasn\u2019t<\/span> the iconic photo taken by Rosenthal; it was his second photograph, which is very obviously <em>not<\/em> a candid shot.\u00a0 Confusion on this point has led to numerous arguments over the years.<\/p>\n<p>There have also been previous errors concerning the identities of those in Rosenthal\u2019s iconic photo.\u00a0 Originally, there was another error in identifying the participants.\u00a0 Cpl. Harlan Block was not identified as being one of the six in that iconic photo; Sgt. Hank Hansen, one of the three individuals involved in raising the <i>first<\/i> flag to be raised on Mount Suribachi, was mistakenly identified as being in the photo in Block\u2019s place (at the base of the makeshift flagpole).\u00a0 It took two years and a Congressional investigation to sort that out.\u00a0 Indeed, had Pfc. Ira Hayes \u2013 one of the six individuals in the Rosenthal photo \u2013 not come forward and spoken up regarding the misidentification, that error would likely never have been corrected.<\/p>\n<p><u>\u201cAt this point, what difference does it make?\u201d<\/u><\/p>\n<p>Well, I guess that depends.\u00a0 And yes, the choice of language above was intentional \u2013 and was done to make a point.<\/p>\n<p>IMO whether it matters or not depends on what you think is more important:\u00a0 truth, or appearances.<\/p>\n<p>If you think appearances are more important, well, I guess then it doesn\u2019t really matter who\u2019s in Rosenthal\u2019s iconic photo.\u00a0 That photo \u2013 regardless of who\u2019s actually in it \u2013 is uplifting, stirring, and heroic.\u00a0 It projects the image of the heroic American fighting man quite well.<\/p>\n<p>In that case, I guess it also doesn\u2019t really matter if it was staged.\u00a0 Or if it was even taken in combat or on Mount Suribachi at all.\u00a0 Or if it was created out of whole cloth by an artist, for that matter.<\/p>\n<p>In short, it doesn&#8217;t matter if it&#8217;s true or not. The image is still effective, and it supports the cause.<\/p>\n<p>If that\u2019s your point of view, well, have at it.\u00a0 But I can&#8217;t buy that.<\/p>\n<p>I can&#8217;t buy that, because <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">truth matters<\/span>.\u00a0 The event indeed really happened. It was iconic, and special.\u00a0 Real people did that, in a real war.\u00a0 It&#8217;s part of US history.<\/p>\n<p>The people involved are also part of US history. And they deserve to be remembered &#8211; accurately.<\/p>\n<p>And I also can&#8217;t buy it because of what happened next.<\/p>\n<p>The surviving \u201cflag raisers\u201d were turned into celebrities.\u00a0 They were pulled from combat duty; they were used to headline a War Bond drive.\u00a0 In at least one individual&#8217;s case, it was done very much against their will.<\/p>\n<p>In short, <u>they too<\/u> became a part of US history.\u00a0 So yeah, IMO \u201cgetting it right\u201d here matters \u2013 a great deal.<\/p>\n<p>It matters because <em><u>history is what really happened<\/u><\/em>.\u00a0 If an account is known not to be accurate, it\u2019s not history; it&#8217;s at best fiction, and at worst propaganda.\u00a0 And when an account is <u>known<\/u> to be inaccurate, but is nonetheless provided as a description of what actually happened, well . . . that\u2019s called a lie.<\/p>\n<p>As I said before: to each his own.\u00a0 To me, truth matters.\u00a0 One helluva lot.<\/p>\n<p>YMMV.<\/p>\n<p><u>Truth Is . . . Truth<\/u><\/p>\n<p>There are some who might say that this doesn\u2019t matter for a different reason:\u00a0 because John Bradley was a hero, and this is just an example of &#8220;someone trying to tear down a hero\u201d.\u00a0 I can\u2019t say I agree with that, either.<\/p>\n<p>John Bradley was indeed a true battlefield hero; his <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.iwojima.com\/cross.htm\">Navy Cross Citation<\/a><\/em> speaks for itself on that score.\u00a0 He deserves credit and honor for his heroism; for that he has my respect.<\/p>\n<p>But regardless, facts are facts &#8211; even when they&#8217;re troubling.\u00a0 Bradley was indeed in two of the famous Iwo Jima flag photos \u2013 but it now appears he was not in Rosenthal\u2019s iconic photo.\u00a0 He didn\u2019t help raise either flag atop Mount Suribachi.\u00a0 And try as I might,\u00a0I simply cannot see any way around one conclusion:\u00a0 that John Bradley knew &#8211; full well &#8211; that he didn&#8217;t participate in raising the flag in Rosenthal&#8217;s photo.<\/p>\n<p>Yet he kept silent.<\/p>\n<p>I can perhaps understand why he kept his mouth shut while he was in uniform.\u00a0 Hell, I suspect he may have been ordered to do so.<\/p>\n<p>But he was discharged from the Navy in late 1945. After that, he could speak his mind.\u00a0 Ira Hayes certainly did to correct the record regarding Block.<\/p>\n<p>Bradley didn\u2019t.\u00a0 He kept his mouth shut for almost 49 years.<\/p>\n<p>Still:\u00a0 truth is . . . truth.\u00a0 It doesn&#8217;t change because we don&#8217;t like it &#8211; or because we don&#8217;t like what the truth implies.<\/p>\n<p><strong>. . . <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><u>Coda<\/u><\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s also one final thing to consider.\u00a0 Or, more precisely &#8211; one other individual.<\/p>\n<p>I have to wonder how the <u>real<\/u> sixth \u201cflag raiser\u201d in Rosenthal&#8217;s photo &#8211; now determined to have been Pfc Harold H. Schultz, USMC \u2013 felt about how this situation and its aftermath.\u00a0 Because IMO if anyone got the short end of the stick here, it seems to me that he did.\u00a0 Bigtime.<\/p>\n<p>Schultz was a legitimate part of US history.\u00a0 He was the one in the photo. He deserved recognition and remembrance for what he did, even if it was done while simply obeying orders. His actions merited being recorded for posterity; he deserved to be remembered.<\/p>\n<p><em>But he wasn&#8217;t<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>By all accounts, after World War II Schultz lived a full and apparently good life.\u00a0 But he had to live the rest of that life knowing someone else got the credit for what <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">he\u2019d<\/span> done at Iwo Jima &#8211; and as a result, became famous.<\/p>\n<p>Think about that for a moment.\u00a0 Schultz had participated in something iconic and had played a central role.\u00a0 He was someone who had <i>literally<\/i> made history &#8211; history that would be remembered for decades if not centuries. By that act he&#8217;d achieved some small measure of immortality. People would remember what he&#8217;d done &#8211; and his name &#8211; long after he was gone.<\/p>\n<p>Then, afterwards, his rightful place in history <em>was taken from him and given to someone else<\/em>.\u00a0 The other man was remembered; he was forgotten.<\/p>\n<p>Maybe Schultz was OK with that; maybe it p!ssed him off daily.\u00a0 I never met him, so I can&#8217;t say.<\/p>\n<p>But what Schultz did certainly <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">deserved then and deserves now to be acknowledged<\/span>.\u00a0 And now, after 71+ years, it has been.<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s just one small problem.\u00a0 The wrong done to Schultz can never be fully righted.<\/p>\n<p>You see, <em>Harold H. Schultz died on 16 May 1995 &#8211; more than 21 years ago<\/em>.\u00a0 He went to his grave never receiving his due.\u00a0 And he died knowing someone else still was receiving credit for doing what he&#8217;d done.<\/p>\n<p>He died knowing someone else had been given his rightful place in history.\u00a0 He never knew that his role in history had been acknowledged.<\/p>\n<p>And that . . . is a shame.\u00a0 A damn shame.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>(Multiple sources were used in preparing this article.\u00a0 However, the Wikipedia article entitled <\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Raising_the_Flag_on_Iwo_Jima\">Raising the Flag on Iwo Jima<\/a><em> is a good &#8211; and as far as I can tell, accurate &#8211; rundown on this somewhat complex and confusing subject.)<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m probably going to catch some grief for what follows.\u00a0 No matter.\u00a0 Some things are worth &hellip; <a title=\"Truth?  Yeah, It Matters.\" class=\"hm-read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=66509\"><span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Truth?  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