{"id":62516,"date":"2015-11-01T08:00:19","date_gmt":"2015-11-01T12:00:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/valorguardians.com\/blog\/?p=62516"},"modified":"2015-11-01T06:59:45","modified_gmt":"2015-11-01T10:59:45","slug":"a-word-of-caution-regarding-dpaas-korean-war-powmia-lists","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=62516","title":{"rendered":"A Word of Caution Regarding DPAA&#8217;s Korean War \u201cPOW\/MIA Lists\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.dpaa.mil\">The Defense POW\/MIA Accounting Agency (DPAA)<\/a><\/em> has the mission of accounting for those who never came home. And they do a credibly good job IMO of doing so.<\/p>\n<p>However, here\u2019s a caution regarding some of the information on their website.<\/p>\n<p>DPAA maintains publicly-accessible lists of those US personnel still missing from past conflicts going back to World War II. These lists are excellent sources, and seem to be kept reasonably well up-to-date as additional personnel from those conflicts are identified.<\/p>\n<p>These lists are differently structured for World War II, Korea, and Vietnam. A bit of background about each of those lists is essential to understand what the lists are actually telling you. I decided to write this article to give that background.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">World War II<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p>The DPAA World War II lists (they don\u2019t provide a consolidated one) are simple to understand, if perhaps not so easy to use. The DPAA World War II lists (<em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.dpaa.mil\/OurMissing\/WorldWarII\/ServicePersonnelNotRecoveredFollowingWWII.aspx\">found here<\/a><\/em>) list only those who have not yet been formally accounted for \u2013 e.g., whose remains were never recovered.\u00a0 These lists are clearly identified as what they are &#8211; lists of those still missing.\u00a0 DPAA does not provide a list of POWs who returned alive, escaped, etc . . . , from World War II, and none of their lists would lead one to believe that&#8217;s its subject.<\/p>\n<p>The DPAA World War II lists are broken out alphabetically and by service, so there are a relatively large number of individual lists; as a result, they\u2019re not necessarily too easy to use. But if you know an individual\u2019s name, finding out whether they\u2019re still missing is fairly straightforward (if perhaps a bit tedious).<\/p>\n<p><u>Vietnam<\/u>.<\/p>\n<p>DPAA provides <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.dpaa.mil\/OurMissing\/VietnamWar\/VietnamWarPOWMIAList.aspx\">numerous lists for Vietnam<\/a><\/em>\u00a0 (by service, by state, etc . . . ) as well. However, for Vietnam DPAA also provides consolidated lists.\u00a0 Four are IMO the most useful: the consolidated lists of Escapees, Returned, Accounted-For, and Unaccounted-For personnel. The lists&#8217; names are self-explanatory: the Escapee list lists all personnel who escaped from their captors in SEA and returned alive to US control; the Returned list, those who returned alive from captivity at the end of the war; the Accounted-For list, all whose fate is definitively known (including escapees, returnees, and the turncoat bastard Garwood); and the Unaccounted-For list includes those who are still missing. The lists are comprehensive; thus, they\u2019re quite useful for ferreting out fake Vietnam POW claims.\u00a0 If the individual isn\u2019t on the Escapee or Returned lists, DoD doesn\u2019t recognize them as a Vietnam POW. Period.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Korean War<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p>DPAA also maintains a page it calls &#8220;Korean War POW\/MIA Lists&#8221;.\u00a0 Unfortunately, some of these Korean War lists are problematic. Bluntly:\u00a0 taken at face value some of them can be hugely misleading.<\/p>\n<p>The Korean War lists are structured exactly as are the Vietnam lists; one would thus expect them to contain the same information.\u00a0 One group of them does.\u00a0 One does not.<\/p>\n<p>There are two types of Korean War &#8220;POW\/MIA&#8221; lists: the &#8220;<em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.dpaa.mil\/portals\/85\/Documents\/KoreaAccounting\/pmkor_acc_all.pdf\">Accounted-For<\/a><\/em> &#8221; lists and the &#8220;<em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.dpaa.mil\/portals\/85\/Documents\/KoreaAccounting\/pmkor_una_all.pdf\">Unaccounted-For&#8221;<br \/>\n<\/a><\/em>lists. The latter are good sources of data regarding those still missing, and appear to be both comprehensive and accurate.\u00a0 However, there is a huge issue with the former group &#8211; the &#8220;Accounted-For&#8221; lists.<\/p>\n<p>On the DPAA Vietnam &#8220;Accounted-For&#8221; lists, those who escaped captivity and who returned alive from same are included in those lists; they are explicitly identified by their status code as having returned at the end of the war or to have escaped. \u00a0(They&#8217;re also broken out on separate lists for ease of review.) \u00a0In contrast, the Korean lists <u>do not appear to include those US POWs who returned alive during\/after the war, or who may have escaped from captivity during the war itself and returned to US control<\/u>.<\/p>\n<p>What first tipped me off (some time ago) regarding this issue was when I looked at the consolidated Korea &#8220;Accounted For&#8221; list and found it had around 300 names (even today it only shows 322 names). <em>This is far less than 10% of the number of US POWs documented to have returned alive during or at the end of the Korean War<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>I haven\u2019t been able to find data on how many US personnel (if any) escaped from NK\/Red Chinese captivity and returned to US control during the Korean War, or who might have been rescued by Allied forces.\u00a0 However, near and after the end of the Korean War the US and NK\/Red China conducted two major prisoner exchanges:\u00a0 <em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Operation_Big_Switch\">Operation Little Switch and Operation Big Switch<\/a><\/em>.\u00a0 Over <em><strong>3,700<\/strong><\/em>\u00a0 US personnel returned alive from POW status during these operations.<\/p>\n<p>Operation Little Switch occurred during April and May, 1953. During this exchange, 149 ill and\/or wounded US POWs were returned to US control. Operation Big Switch occurred between the armistice ending the Korean War and the end of 1953; during multiple exchanges, 3,576 US personnel were repatriated. The total number of former US POWs known to have returned alive to US control in 1953 is thus at least 3,725.*<\/p>\n<p><u>None of the US personnel who returned in either &#8220;Switch&#8221; operation appear to be included on the Korean War &#8220;Accounted-For&#8221; lists<\/u>.\u00a0 Rather, those lists only appear to include the names of those <em>whose remains were returned and\/or definitively identified after the end of Operation Big Switch<\/em>..\u00a0 So the fact that someone (1) claims he\/his dad\/ his uncle\/whoever is or was a Korean War POW s, when (2) their name doesn&#8217;t appear on any of the Korean War &#8220;Accounted-For&#8221; lists tells you . . . nada.\u00a0 US POWs who returned alive at the end of the Korean War simply aren&#8217;t listed there.<\/p>\n<p>Why? \u00a0Dunno. \u00a0Seems to me that DoD must have a by-name list of who came back alive from POW status in Korea in its archives.\u00a0 For whatever reason, apparently they&#8217;ve chosen not to make that list readily available through DPAA. \u00a0I wish they would, if for no other reason than to complete the historical record.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>* <u>Historical Note<\/u>:\u00a0 per the armistice agreement ending the Korean War all POWs from both sides were given the opportunity to remain with the enemy if they so chose. A total of 3,597 US personnel were offered the opportunity to return from captivity during Operation Big Switch. Shockingly, 23 US personnel initially refused repatriation. Two later changed their minds (the Armistice agreement provided for a 90-day window during which a POW\u00a0 initially declining repatriation could change their mind and opt to return home instead) and returned to US control in 1953. However, <\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/List_of_American_and_British_defectors_in_the_Korean_War\">a total of 21 disloyal bastards ultimately declined repatriation to the US<\/a><em> and opted to remain in Communist custody.\u00a0 Most later decided that had been a mistake and returned to the US after several years. However, at least 4 (and possibly 5) never did. One died not long after the end of the Korean War.\u00a0 The other 3 or 4 lived out the rest of their\u00a0 turncoat lives under Communism.<br \/>\n<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>A well-meaning error by the military allowed those who later returned to the US to do so without facing severe legal consequences.\u00a0 All of the US personnel opting to remain with the Communists were given a dishonorable discharge from the military in absentia.\u00a0 When they later returned to the US, the result was that <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">they could not be prosecuted for misconduct under the UCMJ<\/span> &#8211; because due to their dishonorable discharges they were no longer in the military.\u00a0 I\u00a0 strongly suspect that&#8217;s why policy today is to keep the individual &#8220;on the rolls&#8221; in deserter status in such a case:\u00a0 to ensure they can receive the appropriate UCMJ &#8220;tender mercies&#8221; on return.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>(A link to this article has been added to the &#8220;Military Records&#8221; button on the TAH site banner.)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Defense POW\/MIA Accounting Agency (DPAA) has the mission of accounting for those who never came &hellip; <a title=\"A Word of Caution Regarding DPAA&#8217;s Korean War \u201cPOW\/MIA Lists\u201d\" class=\"hm-read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=62516\"><span class=\"screen-reader-text\">A Word of Caution Regarding DPAA&#8217;s Korean War \u201cPOW\/MIA Lists\u201d<\/span>Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":623,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[10,84,118],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-62516","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-historical","category-military-issues","category-veterans-issues"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/62516","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/623"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=62516"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/62516\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=62516"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=62516"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=62516"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}