{"id":60737,"date":"2015-07-06T09:00:32","date_gmt":"2015-07-06T13:00:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/valorguardians.com\/blog\/?p=60737"},"modified":"2022-01-23T23:34:15","modified_gmt":"2022-01-24T04:34:15","slug":"john-james-lavoie-revisiting-the-phony-marine","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=60737","title":{"rendered":"John James Lavoie; revisiting the phony Marine"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><center><a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?attachment_id=60310\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-60310\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/John-James-Lavoi-300x278.jpg\" alt=\"John James Lavoi\" width=\"300\" height=\"278\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-60310\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/John-James-Lavoi-300x278.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/John-James-Lavoi-359x333.jpg 359w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/John-James-Lavoi.jpg 538w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/center><\/p>\n<p>Last month we talked about <a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=60309\">John James Lavoie<\/a>, the retired Marine Master Sergeant who claimed to have some valor medals from Vietnam and some schooling that didn&#8217;t appear on his FOIA, as you can see in the picture above. So, unsurprisingly, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.firstcoastnews.com\/story\/news\/local\/military\/2015\/07\/01\/i-was-already-guilty-until-proven-innocent\/29590653\/\">Lavoie has started pushing back<\/a> against his detractors. He has presented the media with these piecemeal pictures of a DD215 (the document that corrects a DD214);<\/p>\n<p><center><a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?attachment_id=60738\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-60738\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/IMG_1090-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"IMG_1090\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-60738\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/IMG_1090-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/IMG_1090-444x333.jpg 444w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/IMG_1090-400x300.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?attachment_id=60739\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-60739\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/IMG_1091-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"IMG_1091\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-60739\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/IMG_1091-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/IMG_1091-444x333.jpg 444w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/IMG_1091-400x300.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/center><\/p>\n<p>Yeah, I can&#8217;t see much there either, except that the document edition is really old and the abbreviations for the medals are not like anything I&#8217;ve ever seen used in any branch of the military. So I have my doubts about it&#8217;s authenticity. It seems to me that if his records were indeed corrected, the clerks would have used the clearest terms on the DD215, not cryptic abbreviations. Like using &#8220;VMS&#8221; for Vietnam Service Medal.<\/p>\n<p>But that&#8217;s the least of Lavoie&#8217;s problems. Mary sent us the FOIA that she got for the Florida Times;<\/p>\n<p><center><a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?attachment_id=60744\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-60744\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/John-James-Lavoie-FOIA-232x300.jpg\" alt=\"John James Lavoie FOIA\" width=\"232\" height=\"300\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-60744\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/John-James-Lavoie-FOIA-232x300.jpg 232w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/John-James-Lavoie-FOIA-257x333.jpg 257w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/John-James-Lavoie-FOIA.jpg 1608w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 232px) 100vw, 232px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?attachment_id=60740\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-60740\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/John-James-Lavoie-Assignments-232x300.jpg\" alt=\"John James Lavoie Assignments\" width=\"232\" height=\"300\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-60740\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/John-James-Lavoie-Assignments-232x300.jpg 232w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/John-James-Lavoie-Assignments-257x333.jpg 257w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/John-James-Lavoie-Assignments.jpg 1608w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 232px) 100vw, 232px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?attachment_id=60741\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-60741\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/John-James-Lavoie-Assignments2-300x79.jpg\" alt=\"John James Lavoie Assignments2\" width=\"300\" height=\"79\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-60741\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/John-James-Lavoie-Assignments2-300x79.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/John-James-Lavoie-Assignments2-500x132.jpg 500w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/John-James-Lavoie-Assignments2.jpg 1239w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?attachment_id=60742\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-60742\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/John-James-Lavoie-Awards-260x300.jpg\" alt=\"John James Lavoie Awards\" width=\"260\" height=\"300\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-60742\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/John-James-Lavoie-Awards-260x300.jpg 260w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/John-James-Lavoie-Awards-288x333.jpg 288w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/John-James-Lavoie-Awards.jpg 459w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 260px) 100vw, 260px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?attachment_id=60743\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-60743\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/John-James-Lavoie-Education-300x114.jpg\" alt=\"John James Lavoie Education\" width=\"300\" height=\"114\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-60743\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/John-James-Lavoie-Education-300x114.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/John-James-Lavoie-Education-500x189.jpg 500w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/John-James-Lavoie-Education.jpg 1155w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a> <\/center><\/p>\n<p>The problem I see is that Lavoie enlisted in July 1972. The First Marine Division was the last Marine unit in Vietnam and they left June 28, 1971 more than a year before Lavoie joined the Marines. Nothing in his list of assignments indicates that he was ever near Vietnam, you know, even though the rest of the Marine Corps wasn&#8217;t near Vietnam either.<\/p>\n<p>If the DD215 is legitimate, Lavoie should have some documentation that he presented to get the DD215 issued. Let&#8217;s see it. It&#8217;s really just that simple. Let&#8217;s see the whole DD215 instead of snippets of it in the media. I also have trouble believing that in 2015 the NPRC doesn&#8217;t have the 1993 DD215. <\/p>\n<p>When the clerk was typing up my DD214 when I retired, I was sitting right across the desk from him and made sure he put everything in &#8211; and then I read the DD214 to make sure it was all correct before I signed it. Master Sergeant Lavoie didn&#8217;t notice that his wartime service wasn&#8217;t on the DD214 before he signed it? The NPRC takes their information from his records to put on the FOIA, if those awards aren&#8217;t in the FOIA, they also aren&#8217;t in his records. How many Senior NCOs out there don&#8217;t have their wartime medals in their records? The only awards that I have that aren&#8217;t in my DD214 are awards I got after I retired and one that was created after I retired.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Last month we talked about John James Lavoie, the retired Marine Master Sergeant who claimed to &hellip; <a title=\"John James Lavoie; revisiting the phony Marine\" class=\"hm-read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=60737\"><span class=\"screen-reader-text\">John James Lavoie; revisiting the phony Marine<\/span>Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":60310,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[30,391],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-60737","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-phony-soldiers","category-valorvultures"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/60737","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=60737"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/60737\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/60310"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=60737"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=60737"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=60737"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}