{"id":58881,"date":"2015-03-24T09:00:09","date_gmt":"2015-03-24T13:00:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/valorguardians.com\/blog\/?p=58881"},"modified":"2015-03-24T08:42:53","modified_gmt":"2015-03-24T12:42:53","slug":"john-hines-and-george-carr-twin-wankers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=58881","title":{"rendered":"John Hines and George Carr; twin wankers"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><center><a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?attachment_id=58882\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-58882\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/John-Hines-and-George-Carr-225x300.jpg\" alt=\"John Hines and George Carr\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-58882\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/John-Hines-and-George-Carr-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/John-Hines-and-George-Carr-250x333.jpg 250w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/John-Hines-and-George-Carr.jpg 519w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/><\/a><\/center><\/p>\n<p>One of our fans from Australia sent us the above picture of these fellows, John Hines and George Carr, who happen to be twins and our fan called them &#8220;twin wankers&#8221; who showed up in their finery on ANZAC day, April 25, 2012. From the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailytelegraph.com.au\/news\/national\/twin-brothers-accused-of-masquerading-as-veterans-and-marching-with-sas-ask-for-psychiatric-assessments\/story-fndo2iwh-1226492666546\">Daily Telegraph<\/a>;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The pair were charged by Queensland police with falsely representing to be a returned soldier, sailor or airman and improper use of service decorations under the Defence Act of 1903.<\/p>\n<p>Police are expected to allege John Hines and George Carr marched alongside veteran SAS soldiers at this year&#8217;s Anzac Parade in Brisbane.<\/p>\n<p>A member of the public is believed to have complained after the men were photographed displaying the medals.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Their defense of their fakery echoes some of our own. From the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.brisbanetimes.com.au\/queensland\/charged-false-servicemen-claim-secretive-past-20120927-26nsc.html\">Brisbane Times<\/a>;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>John Hines, 68, told brisbanetimes.com.au he and his brother would fight the charges and he was recruited to a specialist unit called Military Assessment Surveillance Keep in the 1960s, after first signing up to Citizen Military Forces.<\/p>\n<p>Mr Hines said the secretive nature of the unit was the reason he did not show up on any standard Australian Army rolls.<\/p>\n<p>He said he carried out surveillance with MASK in more than 20 countries including Vietnam, Borneo, Mozambique, Cambodia, Nigeria and Thailand.<\/p>\n<p>As part of his duties, Mr Hines said he carried out surveillance at Cheviot Beach, where former prime minister Harold Holt disappeared, and watched Mr Holt himself at the Lodge in the weeks before he was lost in the ocean.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I wasn&#8217;t really comfortable with doing surveillance on the Prime Minister but those were my orders,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p>Mr Hines said his brother had served in Vietnam twice &#8220;that I know off&#8221;.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In 2013, the brothers were fined according to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/news\/2013-12-12\/fake-war-veteran-fined-for-brisbane-anzac-march\/5153424\">ABC News<\/a>;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Brisbane Magistrate John McGrath today found George Edward Carr guilty of falsely representing to be a returned soldier and improperly using medals.<\/p>\n<p>Mr McGrath noted that Carr, 69, had dishonoured servicemen and women who did not make it home from war.<\/p>\n<p>He said Carr had also caused offence to defence personnel and their families.<\/p>\n<p>The court was told Carr&#8217;s records showed he never served abroad and was not part of any top secret military missions for which he would have been awarded medals. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>No explanation was offered as to why a pair of twins would have different surnames. Our friends at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.anzmi.net\/index.php\/stolen-valour?pid=62&#038;sid=105:Hines\">Australia and New Zealand Military Imposters<\/a> (ANZMI) have their records.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One of our fans from Australia sent us the above picture of these fellows, John Hines &hellip; <a title=\"John Hines and George Carr; twin wankers\" class=\"hm-read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=58881\"><span class=\"screen-reader-text\">John Hines and George Carr; twin wankers<\/span>Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":58882,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[30],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-58881","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-phony-soldiers"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/58881","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=58881"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/58881\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/58882"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=58881"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=58881"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=58881"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}