{"id":56163,"date":"2014-10-31T16:41:08","date_gmt":"2014-10-31T20:41:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/valorguardians.com\/blog\/?p=56163"},"modified":"2015-02-07T21:02:30","modified_gmt":"2015-02-08T02:02:30","slug":"so-you-cant-get-ebola-from-someone-on-a-bus-eh","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=56163","title":{"rendered":"So . . . You Can&#8217;t Get Ebola from Someone On a Bus, Eh?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><b><i>NOTE: Article has been edited to reflect the apparent <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">deliberate removal<\/span> of the original version of the droplet spread factsheet from the CDC&#8217;s web site, as well as its replacement with a deliberately watered-down version downplaying the threat.<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p>Well, then why did the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/infections-spread-by-air-or-droplets.pdf\">CDC publish this a few days ago<\/a>?<\/p>\n<p>The first copy linked above was obtained two days ago &#8211; before it disappeared from CDC&#8217;s web site; you won&#8217;t find that document on their website today. Look <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cdc.gov\/vhf\/ebola\/pdf\/infections-spread-by-air-or-droplets.pdf\">here for the current watered-down &#8220;don&#8217;t worry, be happy&#8221; version<\/a> from CDC &#8211; one that&#8217;s been &#8220;edited&#8221; to reflect the current \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0 <del>bogus, politically-based propaganda<\/del>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Administration &#8220;party line&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what the pertinent section of the original document says (emphasis added):<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div data-canvas-width=\"358.53599999999994\" data-angle=\"0\" data-font-name=\"g_font_2\">\n<div class=\"textLayer\">\n<blockquote>\n<div data-canvas-width=\"179.795\" data-angle=\"0\" data-font-name=\"g_font_1\">DROPLET SPREAD<\/div>\n<div data-canvas-width=\"179.795\" data-angle=\"0\" data-font-name=\"g_font_1\"><\/div>\n<div data-canvas-width=\"395.28000000000003\" data-angle=\"0\" data-font-name=\"g_font_3\">Droplet spread happens when droplets that are <span style=\"color: #800000;\"><em><strong>coughed<\/strong><\/em><\/span> or <span style=\"color: #993300;\"><em><strong>sneezed<\/strong><\/em><\/span> from a sick person splash the eyes, nose, or mouth of another person, or cause environmental contamination, like a soiled <span style=\"color: #993300;\"><em><strong>bathroom surface<\/strong><\/em> <em><strong>or handrails<\/strong><\/em><\/span>, from which another person can pick up the infectious material.<\/div>\n<div data-canvas-width=\"395.28000000000003\" data-angle=\"0\" data-font-name=\"g_font_3\"><\/div>\n<div data-canvas-width=\"394.19599999999997\" data-angle=\"0\" data-font-name=\"g_font_3\">A person might also get <span style=\"color: #993300;\"><em><strong>infected by touching a surface or object that has germs on it and then touching their eyes, mouth or nose<\/strong><\/em><\/span>.\u00a0 Droplets generally travel shorter distances, less than <span style=\"color: #993300;\"><em><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">about 6 feet<\/span><\/strong><\/em><\/span> from a source patient.<\/div>\n<div data-canvas-width=\"388.32000000000005\" data-angle=\"0\" data-font-name=\"g_font_2\"><\/div>\n<div data-canvas-width=\"358.53599999999994\" data-angle=\"0\" data-font-name=\"g_font_2\">Germs like plague, meningitis, and <em>Ebola<\/em> <span style=\"text-decoration: underline; color: #993300;\"><em><strong>can<\/strong><\/em><\/span> be spread through large droplets.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Now, that <em>really<\/em> makes you feel like the\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <del>DC clown <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www\/thefreedictionary.com\/krewe\">krewe<\/a><\/em>\u00a0<\/del>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 current Administration is doing all it can to keep the US public safe from the possibility of an Ebola outbreak here, doesn&#8217;t it?\u00a0 I mean, we&#8217;re just letting anyone who&#8217;s been to the &#8220;hot zone&#8221; run around and do what they please &#8211; and depending on them to let us know if\/when they start &#8220;feeling sick&#8221;.\u00a0 All we&#8217;re going to do monitor them is take their temperature a couple of times a day.<\/p>\n<p>No, that technically isn&#8217;t &#8220;airborne spread&#8221; &#8211; true airborne spread produces particles (wet or dry) containing virions that are smaller, small enough to stay suspended in the air for a protracted period of time. Those smaller particles are about 1 micron or less in diameter; droplets sprayed during a cough or sneeze are typically larger than that.<\/p>\n<p>But here&#8217;s the &#8220;kicker&#8221;: all it takes is one particle.\u00a0 Since Ebola&#8217;s viral load necessary for infection seems to be around one, coming in contact with only droplet containing <em><strong>one<\/strong><\/em> Ebola virion means you could be in for a really bad few weeks &#8211; or the guest of honor at a funeral.<\/p>\n<p>It also means you&#8217;re\u00a0 hardly perfectly safe standing near a coughing or sneezing person who&#8217;s symptomatic with Ebola.\u00a0 Or sitting next to them (or in the seat in front of them) on a bus, for that matter.\u00a0 Or handling a doorknob after they&#8217;ve sneezed into their hand.<\/p>\n<p>Further, sprayed droplets sometimes do travel farther than 6 feet. So I&#8217;m not really sure &#8220;on the other side of a 15-foot wide room&#8221; is safe if the individual is coughing or sneezing repeatedly and strongly, either.<\/p>\n<p>A few days ago, this info was readily available on the CDC&#8217;s 2014 Ebola Outbreak in West Africa page under either &#8220;What&#8217;s New&#8221; or with their other &#8220;Infographics&#8221; under the &#8220;West Africa Ebola Outbreak&#8221; icon.\u00a0 I saw it, but I didn&#8217;t think much about it at the time; anyone who&#8217;s been following the situation should have already known that.<\/p>\n<p>But for some reason, the document is <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">no longer<\/span> prominently displayed on that page any more &#8211; though it&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cdc.gov\/vhf\/ebola\/outbreaks\/2014-west-africa\/whats-new.html\">still on the CDC site if you dig deep<\/a> enough.\u00a0 Follow the link and look for the item from October 31, 2014.<\/p>\n<p>No, I&#8217;m not the only one to notice this rather sudden change.\u00a0 The <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">New York Post<\/span> <a href=\"http:\/\/nypost.com\/2014\/10\/29\/cdc-admits-droplets-from-a-sneeze-could-spread-ebola\/\">noticed the original document a couple of days ago<\/a>.\u00a0\u00a0 But today, it&#8217;s pretty well hidden &#8211; as the UK&#8217;s <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Daily Mail<\/span> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailymail.co.uk\/news\/article-2815903\/New-CDC-confusion-Ebola-deletes-warning-virus-spread-coughs-sneezes-website.html\">points out<\/a>.\u00a0 Indeed, per the <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Huffington Post<\/span> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2014\/10\/30\/cdc-ebola_n_6078072.html\">the document seems to have become markedly harder to find the day after the <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">NY Post<\/span> ran its story about the CDC flier<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Other previously-posted info on the CDC&#8217;s site about Ebola also seems to have re-written about that same time also.\u00a0 The versions now posted appear to have been re-written to downplay the fact that Ebola can indeed be spread through droplet spray or via contaminated surfaces.<\/p>\n<p>You know, it seems to me almost like someone is intentionally misleading the public about the risks involved for political reasons. But this Administration would never do that, right? (Yes, that last sentence was sarcasm in the extreme.)<\/p>\n<p>Are you feeling like a mushroom yet?<\/p>\n<p>Yeah, you might want to check to see if your pants leg is wet &#8211; again.\u00a0 And if it is . . . well, I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s rain.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>NOTE: Article has been edited to reflect the apparent deliberate removal of the original version of &hellip; <a title=\"So . . . You Can&#8217;t Get Ebola from Someone On a Bus, Eh?\" class=\"hm-read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=56163\"><span class=\"screen-reader-text\">So . . . 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