{"id":43242,"date":"2014-04-13T10:04:49","date_gmt":"2014-04-13T14:04:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/valorguardians.com\/blog\/?p=43242"},"modified":"2014-04-13T10:10:10","modified_gmt":"2014-04-13T14:10:10","slug":"the-seductive-allure-of-wars-were-not-winning","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=43242","title":{"rendered":"The seductive allure of wars we&#8217;re not winning"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?attachment_id=43245\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-43245\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/Andrew-Bacevich-300x251.jpg\" alt=\"Andrew Bacevich\" width=\"300\" height=\"251\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-43245\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/Andrew-Bacevich-300x251.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/Andrew-Bacevich-397x333.jpg 397w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/Andrew-Bacevich.jpg 480w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Andrew J. Bacevich, some sort of military historian, a former Army Armor colonel, Gold Star father and George W. Bush critic, according to <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Andrew_Bacevich\">Wiki<\/a>, writes in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/opinions\/the-seductive-allure-of-wars-were-not-winning\/2014\/04\/11\/4e5b9d70-c011-11e3-bcec-b71ee10e9bc3_story.html?hpid=z5\">Washington Post<\/a> a piece by the title above. Mostly, he runs through the regular crap that you&#8217;d expect from a liberal, who isn&#8217;t a former Army officer, about the allure of war to American youths, the naivete of young American men in search of the &#8220;brotherhood&#8221; of war. After Bacevich runs down the seductive nature of military service, he punches vets in the gut with these paragraphs;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Reports of rampant sexual assault in military ranks have not dented this collective self-esteem. The same goes for Air Force officers cheating on proficiency exams. Ditto for the generals behaving with adolescent boorishness. No wonder vets believe that they should go to the front of the line when seeking employment. From their perspective, it\u2019s only fair for the virtuous to be rewarded.<\/p>\n<p>Speaking for myself, I believe that the troops would do well to ratchet down the self-regard. And when it comes to interpreting yellow ribbons and other \u201cthank you for your service\u201d testimonials, they might want to exhibit a bit more skepticism.<\/p>\n<p>But there\u2019s another question on which I\u2019d be interested in hearing from younger veterans. It\u2019s this: The world\u2019s best military establishment didn\u2019t win in Iraq, and it won\u2019t win in Afghanistan. Why is that?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Hey, dingus, the vast majority of veterans of the current and past wars never sexually assaulted anyone, most of us aren&#8217;t boorish generals, many of us never cheated on proficiency exams that were related to combat readiness, so suck it!<\/p>\n<p>In regards to your question about why the best military in the world didn&#8217;t win the current war decisively, go look in the mirror. Bacevich positioned himself as an opponent of the wars and took every opportunity to disparage President Bush and the reasons the country went to war. Aid the enemy much?  <\/p>\n<p>The troops weren&#8217;t allowed to win the wars from the beginning. Just like my generation wasn&#8217;t allowed to win against Hussein in 1991. The hand-wringers were afraid that we&#8217;d violate some nebulous international standard of conduct that forbids destroying completely your enemy&#8217;s army, using every method at your command. So we had troops who were sniped at from mosques they couldn&#8217;t secure, the enemy would slip across borders where our troops were forbidden to follow (they learned that from the North Vietnamese). The enemy could hide among civilians to avoid massive firepower which would defeat them (ask Will Swenson about that). In fact, troops were forbidden, for a time, to even carry loaded weapons in war (it cost us several score of unarmed troops to that brilliant idea). Even the only real effective campaign of the Iraq War, &#8220;The Surge&#8221;, was declared a failure by your side before it even began. Aid the enemy much?<\/p>\n<p>In short, Andrew J. Bacevich, just like Vietnam, the most effective military in history didn&#8217;t fail to win the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, the American people failed to win the wars. The troops won every engagement, even in the face of 20-to-1 odds and piss-poor strategy from politicians. How fucking dare you put this at their feet? How can you call yourself an historian when you won&#8217;t even glance at recent history? I guess you plan on starting a whole new classification in the Blue Falcon genre.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks to Chief Tango for the link.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Andrew J. Bacevich, some sort of military historian, a former Army Armor colonel, Gold Star father &hellip; <a title=\"The seductive allure of wars we&#8217;re not winning\" class=\"hm-read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=43242\"><span class=\"screen-reader-text\">The seductive allure of wars we&#8217;re not winning<\/span>Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":43245,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[177],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-43242","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-dumbass-bullshit"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/43242","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=43242"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/43242\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/43245"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=43242"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=43242"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=43242"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}