{"id":30591,"date":"2012-07-01T08:55:16","date_gmt":"2012-07-01T12:55:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/valorguardians.com\/blog\/?p=30591"},"modified":"2012-07-01T09:02:19","modified_gmt":"2012-07-01T13:02:19","slug":"ken-aden-interview-muddying-the-waters","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=30591","title":{"rendered":"Ken Aden interview; muddying the waters"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Beretverde and Tim sent us links to the latest <a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=30571\">Ken Aden<\/a> interview. I can&#8217;t tell who really conducted the interview so I&#8217;ll just provide links to both of them at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theprogressivecop.com\/2012\/06\/answering-call-congressional-candidate.html\">The Progressive Cop<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.addictinginfo.org\/2012\/06\/30\/answering-the-call-democratic-congressional-candidate-ken-aden-answers-to-allegations-of-misrepresenting-his-military-record\/\">Addicting Info<\/a> because I give credit where it&#8217;s due.<\/p>\n<p>Aden continues to double down on teh stupid by trying to convince us that Special Forces training is like Ranger training in that after a soldier successfully completes the training they can go back to a regular unit and continue to carry the Military Occupational Specialty they earned at the school. However, a Ranger School graduate earns an identifier on their MOS; an 11B infantryman in the rank of Staff Sergeant who successfully completes Ranger School would have the MOS 11B3V. A graduate from Special Forces &#8220;Q&#8221; course would be a 11B3S, they wouldn&#8217;t carry the Duty MOS as 18B3P, because there are no slots for 18Bs in an infantry unit. But, that&#8217;s not how Aden tells it;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Some people in Arkansas media have suggested that even if you finished Special Forces training, that you weren\u2019t Special Forces unless you were assigned to a Special Forces unit. Is it common for Special Forces soldiers or Rangers to be assigned elsewhere in the Army besides SF or Ranger units?<\/strong> <\/p>\n<p>That is another valid question, and I will take the time to address it. It is not uncommon for someone Ranger qualified to be assigned to a non-Ranger unit. In fact, my former Platoon Sergeant who wrote a letter supporting me held the Ranger tab while serving in the 82nd. The fact is that you can continue to hold an SF designation, such as 18B, and serve in other units.<\/p>\n<p><strong>People seem to be more familiar with Rangers; do Rangers assigned to non-ranger units still wear the \u201cRanger\u201d tab on their sleeve? Would these soldiers typically be referred to as \u201cRangers\u201d even though they aren\u2019t assigned to Ranger units?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yes, if you earned the identifier, you earned the identifier. So technically if you earned the Ranger tab and were assigned to any other place besides a \u201cRanger Battalion\u201d you\u2019re still a Ranger.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s completely different, Kenny. A Ranger in an infantry unit is still occupying an authorized 11B slot, while someone in the MOS of 18B wouldn&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<p>And of course, Aden can&#8217;t be wrong&#8230;it&#8217;s the personnel people at the Special Warfare Center who are wrong;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>The Democrat-Gazette has quoted Major Rebecca Lykins, public affairs chief at the U.S Army Special Warfare Center, as saying the \u201c18B\u201d entry, which signifies that you are Special Forces on your DD-214, was entered as a mistake. She says it shouldn\u2019t have been recorded on the document because, she claims, you never finished the \u201cQ\u201d course which would qualify you as Special Forces and that you did not have a certificate of completion. Is Major Lykins telling us the truth? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It seems that the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing. I completed my training to obtain the MOS of 18B. That is why it is recorded on my DD-214. If it was entered by mistake, then I would not have been allowed to carry it forward and the installation management command would have not put it on the official discharge paperwork. They had the orders and the orders number and each of these numbers are tracked.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Of course, the interviewer blows off all of the criticism of Aden&#8217;s lies and his refusal to admit the truth telling us that it really doesn&#8217;t matter. Um, yeah, it does matter. It&#8217;s pretty clear that Aden lied and instead of admitting that he&#8217;s lying, he compounds his lies by blaming everyone else but himself and his staff. What&#8217;s to say that he won&#8217;t do the same thing if he ever gets into office? The voters can see for themselves how he handles himself when he&#8217;s caught lying &#8211; do Arkansans want that sort of representation in Congress?<\/p>\n<p>Apparently, the women&#8217;s rights group, <a href=\"http:\/\/bluearkansasblog.com\/?p=9447\">We Are Women-Arkansas have denounced Aden<\/a>, and the rumor is that Aden&#8217;s campaign manager, Jake Burris, has resigned from the campaign &#8211; but I can&#8217;t find anything to verify that last bit.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Beretverde and Tim sent us links to the latest Ken Aden interview. I can&#8217;t tell who &hellip; <a title=\"Ken Aden interview; muddying the waters\" class=\"hm-read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=30591\"><span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Ken Aden interview; muddying the waters<\/span>Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[30,155],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-30591","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-phony-soldiers","category-shitbags"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/30591","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=30591"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/30591\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=30591"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=30591"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=30591"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}