{"id":30289,"date":"2012-06-07T08:12:33","date_gmt":"2012-06-07T12:12:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/valorguardians.com\/blog\/?p=30289"},"modified":"2012-06-07T08:49:45","modified_gmt":"2012-06-07T12:49:45","slug":"and-lo-for-on-the-3rd-day-did-poe-come-down-from-the-mountain-and-give-the-people-documents-that-prove-he-was-lying","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=30289","title":{"rendered":"And Lo, for on the 3rd day did Poe come down from the mountain and give the people documents that prove he was lying&#8230;."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A couple of brief things. Kudos to MSNBC for linking to us. With the exception of the guy who is getting the credit for starting this (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.rickey.org\/\">Rickey<\/a>) no one else has really linked to us. I thanked Rickey last night, because none of this was his fault. But for some reason the AP gave him credit for breaking a story that he very carefully stated in his post that he got from us. Go figure. Haters gonna hate, slaters gonna slate.<\/p>\n<p>Well, today we get more interesting news, that sort of ties in there. People are starting to go a bit weak in the knees. Well, I say onto you, &#8220;Buck up campers!&#8221; The day this broke I became a lawyer, which means I am smart enough to know 2 things: 1) if this shit went south, everyone not crediting us with breaking the story would point fingers at us and say &#8220;that guy did it.&#8221; And then I would get to meet the fine folks at the bar association again, and while they were quite congenial, I don&#8217;t think my first week should be marked with ethics problems. 2) I have WAY WAY WAY more info than apparently anyone else does on this story. Seriously, I have proof coming out my 4th point of contact. Don&#8217;t confuse my not publishing it with not having it. Some of it is like ill-begotten mob earnings, I have to launder it so that others don&#8217;t get outted.<\/p>\n<p>Nonetheless, today&#8217;s moment of doubt for folks comes from this video:<br \/>\n<script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wfaa.com\/templates\/belo_embedWrapper.js?storyid=157676135&amp;pos=top&amp;swfw=470\"><\/script><object id=\"bimvidplayer0\" width=\"469\" height=\"264\" classid=\"clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000\" codebase=\"http:\/\/download.macromedia.com\/pub\/shockwave\/cabs\/flash\/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0\"><param name=\"allowfullscreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\" \/><param name=\"quality\" value=\"high\" \/><param name=\"cachebusting\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"flashvars\" value=\"config=http:\/\/www.wfaa.com\/?j=157676135&amp;ref=http:\/\/www.wfaa.com\/entertainment\/Record-of-singing-soldier-raises-questions-157676135.html\" \/><param name=\"src\" value=\"http:\/\/swfs.bimvid.com\/bimvid_player-3_2_7.swf?x-bim-callletters=WFAA\" \/><embed id=\"bimvidplayer0\" width=\"469\" height=\"264\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" src=\"http:\/\/swfs.bimvid.com\/bimvid_player-3_2_7.swf?x-bim-callletters=WFAA\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" allowscriptaccess=\"always\" quality=\"high\" cachebusting=\"true\" flashvars=\"config=http:\/\/www.wfaa.com\/?j=157676135&amp;ref=http:\/\/www.wfaa.com\/entertainment\/Record-of-singing-soldier-raises-questions-157676135.html\" \/><\/object><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wfaa.com\/templates\/belo_embedWrapper.js?storyid=157676135&amp;pos=bottom\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>OK, did you watch it? Good. (Ohes noes, he has proof of everything!)<\/p>\n<p>Nah, he doesn&#8217;t. In fact, the records he showed there prove he violated stolen valor, and do not prove any RPG hit theory&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s start with this email which I have now been authorized to publicize. It is from Poe to the Defenders of Freedom. [As an aside, DoF is a phenomenal organization, and when this ends, I will be doing a fundraiser for them. Bear in mind that without all the BS story, Poe was entitled to be a part of their program. Dude was injured on Active Duty. They didn&#8217;t do anything wrong. Poe&#8217;s problem is not his service, it is with the stories he&#8217;s been telling since.]<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>From: [Tim Poe]<br \/>\nTo: [Defenders of Freedom]<br \/>\nSent: 5\/6\/2012 2:43:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time<br \/>\nSubj: Military awards for Tim<\/p>\n<p>Hi [redacted],<br \/>\nI am attaching the list of awards you asked for. Please let me know if there is anything else you need.<br \/>\nThanks<br \/>\nTim<\/p>\n<p>Bronze Star<br \/>\nPurple Heart w\/ Bronze Oak Leaf Cluster<br \/>\nAfghanistan Campaign Medal w\/Double Bronze Star<br \/>\nIraq Campaign Medal w\/Triple Bronze Star<br \/>\nKosovo Campaign Medal w\/Bronze Star<br \/>\nGlobal War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal<br \/>\nNational Defense Service Medal<br \/>\nOverseas Service Ribbon<br \/>\nArmed Forces Reserve Medal w\/ M Device<br \/>\nARCOM w\/ Silver Oak Leaf Cluster<br \/>\nArmy Achievement Medal w\/ Silver Oak Leaf Cluster and Double Bronze Oak Leaf Cluster<br \/>\nArmy Reserve Components Achievement Medal w\/ Bronze Oak Leaf Cluster<br \/>\nArmy Good Conduct Medal w\/ Good Conduct Four Knot Device<br \/>\nArmed Forces Service Medal<br \/>\nNational Defense Service Medal<br \/>\nNCO Professional development Ribbon<br \/>\nBNOC<br \/>\nCombat Infantry Badge<br \/>\nArmy Service Ribbon<br \/>\nAir Assault Badge<br \/>\nAirborne Badge<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>OK, you catch all that?<\/p>\n<p>Now, back to the TV interview. They say he sent 6 pages, I only saw 5 on the TV, but the 2 I saw aren&#8217;t consistent with his stories. The first is his DD214. Here is the screen cap of that one:<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/TV1.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-30290\" title=\"TV1\" src=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/TV1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/TV1.jpg 1680w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/TV1-300x187.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/TV1-1024x640.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1680px) 100vw, 1680px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Notice in particular his MOSs. Anyone else see Infantry in there? No? How many people caught the Bronze Star? No? Well, what about the Purple Heart? Wait, you didn&#8217;t see that either? Jeesh people, look harder.<\/p>\n<p>That document alone proves that his email to Defenders of Freedom is a lie. Need I remind you about the Stolen Valor Act?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Whoever falsely represents himself or herself, verbally or in writing, to have been awarded any decoration or medal authorized by Congress for the armed forces of the United States, or any of the service medals or badges awarded to the members of such forces, or the ribbon, button, or rosette of any such badge, decoration or medal, or any colorable imitation thereof shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Nonetheless, moving on&#8230;..How about that medical document that proves he was hit with an RPG&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/TV21.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-30292\" title=\"TV2\" src=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/TV21.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/TV21.jpg 1680w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/TV21-300x187.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/TV21-1024x640.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1680px) 100vw, 1680px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Yeah, see, that thing says no such thing. What it states if you can&#8217;t make it out, is that he is being seperated on a disability that results from combat or an instrumentality of war. That part right there occurs on EVERY SINGLE Physical Evaluation Board (PEB) or Medical Evaluation Board (MEB) that is determined to have been the result of a service related injury. Taking the story that others have been telling that he injured his back from falling off a vehicle, that is entirely consistent with what the PEB\/MEB would show.<\/p>\n<p>IN OTHER WORDS, the language used there is what we call boilerplate. It&#8217;s like the things you find on lawyer type documents, usually in small print. It is the military&#8217;s way of saying, &#8220;yeah, the injury, illness etc occured on our watch.&#8221; It does NOT mean that he was injured in combat, ergo the &#8220;Instrumentality of War.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Not to beat that portion into the sand, but see for example the legal definition of &#8220;instrumentality of war&#8221; for purposes of CRSC (combat related special compensation):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>INSTRUMENTALITY OF WAR (IN) &#8211; Incurrence during an actual period of war is not required. However, there must be a direct causal relationship between the instrumentality of war and the disability. The disability must be incurred incident to a hazard or risk of the service. An instrumentality of war is a vehicle, vessel, or device designed primarily for Military Service and intended for use in such Service at the time of the occurrence or injury. It may also include such instrumentalities not designed primarily for Military Service if use of, or occurrence involving, such instrumentality subjects the individual to a hazard peculiar to Military Service. Such use or occurrence differs from the use or occurrence under similar circumstances in civilian pursuits. A determination that a disability is the result of an instrumentality of war may be made if the disability was incurred in any period of service as a result of such diverse causes as wounds caused by a military weapon, accidents involving a military combat vehicle, injury or sickness caused by fumes, gases, or explosion of military ordnance, vehicles, or material. For example, if a member is on a field exercise and is engaged in sporting activity and falls and strikes an armored vehicle, the injury will not be considered to result from the instrumentality of war (armored vehicle) because it was the sporting activity that was the cause of the injury, not the vehicle. On the other hand, if the individual was engaged in the same sporting activity and the armored vehicle struck the member, the injury would be considered the result of an instrumentality of war.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So what does this mean? Essentially he snowballed this TV program. If they want, I can give them the name of a PEB\/MEB specialist right there at Brooke Army Medical Center that can look at these files and explain what they mean.<\/p>\n<p>OK, so some of you are likely asking how much information I truly have. Um. Boatloads. How bad was his injury? Was it so bad dude could barely move and such? Well, it was bad, no doubt about it, but see&#8230;..I have a counseling report from 12\/28\/2010 wherein Poe states<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>He would like to go through a 20 month training in FL to become a flight instructor and is currently looking into this option.<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That didn&#8217;t work out well for him&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>He is eligible to submit a packet although his unit wants to send up a 4187 to recommend it be denied.<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Like I said, I have everything.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/#!\/RangerUpFanPage\">Graphic from my heroes over at Ranger Up, Tommy, Nick et al:<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/Ranger-up.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/Ranger-up.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"Ranger up\" width=\"500\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-30294\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/Ranger-up.jpg 717w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/Ranger-up-300x235.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 717px) 100vw, 717px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A couple of brief things. Kudos to MSNBC for linking to us. With the exception of &hellip; <a title=\"And Lo, for on the 3rd day did Poe come down from the mountain and give the people documents that prove he was lying&#8230;.\" class=\"hm-read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=30289\"><span class=\"screen-reader-text\">And Lo, for on the 3rd day did Poe come down from the mountain and give the people documents that prove he was lying&#8230;.<\/span>Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":148,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-30289","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/30289","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/148"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=30289"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/30289\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=30289"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=30289"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=30289"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}