{"id":26061,"date":"2011-08-03T05:58:46","date_gmt":"2011-08-03T09:58:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/valorguardians.com\/blog\/?p=26061"},"modified":"2011-08-03T11:25:08","modified_gmt":"2011-08-03T15:25:08","slug":"parenting-and-phony-ranger-stories","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=26061","title":{"rendered":"Parenting and Phony Ranger stories"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Blackfive sent us <a href=\"http:\/\/www.salon.com\/life\/feature\/2011\/08\/02\/parents_i_never_knew\/index.html\">this Salon link<\/a> last night that he received from a B5 reader. It&#8217;s about some chick who meets a Ranger in a bar who tells her the story of a training accident that happened when he was a young LT;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>While my dad and mom were zooming down I-35 listening to Creedence, my dad&#8217;s friend &#8212; we&#8217;ll call him Joe Trevor, the same guy I met in the bar 20 years later &#8212; led a group of soldiers, Team A, in a mock-ambush of a military vehicle full of soldiers, Team B.<\/p>\n<p>Team A&#8217;s job was to jump out from hidden positions along the side of the road and &#8220;kill&#8221; all the soldiers on Team B as they came by in a tactical vehicle. Team A checked out guns full of dummy ammo from the supply personnel on duty at the arms room that night and headed out to the ambush spot on one of the many dusty roads that crisscross the training areas of Fort Sill. But the ammo was live, and before they realized what was happening, Team A killed &#8212; really killed &#8211;seven American soldiers on Team B. A friendly fire episode.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Yeah, a real tagedy&#8230;if armorers issued weapons already loaded. Soldiers load their own weapons and magazines, and they&#8217;d probably be able to notice the difference if they were loading live ammunition as opposed to blanks. The short round with no bullet in the middle of this picture is blank ammo;<\/p>\n<p><center><a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/5.56-ammo.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26062\" title=\"5.56 ammo\" src=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/5.56-ammo.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"348\" height=\"197\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/5.56-ammo.jpg 348w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/5.56-ammo-300x169.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 348px) 100vw, 348px\" \/><\/a><\/center>In the event he was talking about M14s and not M16s, the round on the far right is 7.62 blank in this picture.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/7.62-ammo.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26063\" title=\"DCF 1.0\" src=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/7.62-ammo.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"230\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/7.62-ammo.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/7.62-ammo-300x138.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>But, you get the idea, the ammunition is distinctive for a reason, so no one loads live ammunition when they intend to load blanks. And like I said, armorers don&#8217;t issue weapons with the ammunition already loaded. Even if they did, don&#8217;t you think that a soldier would look in the magazine and notice the live ammo at some point?<\/p>\n<p>And she keeps calling it &#8220;dummy&#8221; ammo. The big difference between dummy ammo and live ammo is that dummy ammo doesn&#8217;t make a *BANG* noise when you pull the trigger &#8211; it&#8217;s inert.  <\/p>\n<p>Yeah, this Constance Squires made up the whole story, for some stupid reason, because only someone who knows absolutely nothing about weapons and procedures in the Army could come up with this fantasy  bullshit to write about parenting. Stay in your lane, Constance. Now your daughter knows you lie.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ADDED:<\/strong> Anonymous reminds me in the comments that the rifles would require a big red and noticeable blank firing adapter to make the rifles fire properly in semi- or full-auto mode and would have prevented a bullet from reaching their intended target and would have exploded in the barrel of the weapon. <\/p>\n<p>TSO Adds:  Well, it gets interesting&#8230;..<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/june-28-1967.bmp\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/june-28-1967.bmp\" alt=\"\" title=\"june 28, 1967\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26066\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>From the Trial:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/june-28-1967.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/june-28-1967.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"june 28, 1967\" width=\"500\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26067\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/june-28-1967.jpg 1280w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/june-28-1967-300x240.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/june-28-1967-1024x819.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1280px) 100vw, 1280px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>UPDATE: OK, so the story is 1\/2 bullshit, and 1\/2 true.  It was only one rifle loaded with the live rounds, and it didn&#8217;t happen at all the way the chick said.  A LT borrowed the weapon, didn&#8217;t know what he was using.  Said he fired it in the air.  Later it turned out to be loaded with live rounds, and he had blown the BFA off the end of it.  They actually found the BFA in pieces later on.  Going through reports of the trial now.<\/p>\n<p>The whole <a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=26069\">edited and researched story<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Blackfive sent us this Salon link last night that he received from a B5 reader. 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