{"id":23307,"date":"2011-05-10T02:33:24","date_gmt":"2011-05-10T06:33:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/valorguardians.com\/blog\/?p=23307"},"modified":"2011-05-10T16:26:39","modified_gmt":"2011-05-10T20:26:39","slug":"the-real-thinking-behind-rethink-afghanistan","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=23307","title":{"rendered":"The real thinking behind Rethink Afghanistan."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>With the report from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usatoday.com\/news\/military\/2011-05-08-troops-strain-morale-afghanistan_n.htm\">USA Today <\/a> that the group <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/notes\/rethink-afghanistan\/support-the-troops-bring-them-home-in-afghanistan-us-troop-morale-plunges-while-\/199164803460570\">Rethink Afghanistan<\/a> was quick to jump on this.  But I think that it should be noted that reasoning behind the group Rethink Afghanistan has nothing to do with Afghanistan. <\/p>\n<p>It should be interesting to know that is from a <a href=\"http:\/\/returngood.com\/2008\/10\/20\/us-military-learning-to-get-soldiers-to-kill-on-reflex-drop-moral-reasoning\/\">conversation<\/a> that started almost two years ago with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/derrick-crowe\/dont-let-bin-laden-have-t_b_857823.html\">Derrick Crowe<\/a>.  <\/p>\n<blockquote><p>U.S. Military Learning to Get Soldiers to Kill on Reflex, Drop Moral Reasoning<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Sounds like something recently<a href=\"http:\/\/www.blackfive.net\/main\/2011\/05\/the-nyt-tries-to-revive-the-crazy-vet-meme.html#comment-6a00d8341bfadb53ef014e8842d7e8970d\"> published<\/a>. But here is the the money shot. <\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nI reject one of your premises here: that firing a weapon could ever be a \u201cright choice,\u201d for any reason.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>But then it goes deep into religion and ideals.  But this is a case of<a href=\"http:\/\/returngood.com\/2009\/04\/15\/jesus-the-collateral-damage-jesus-the-insurgent\/#comment-593\"> ideals conflicting with reality<\/a>. Which in this case the field of play being Afghanistan.  <\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nIf you want to dispute the idea that Christians should be willing to die rather than kill an insurgent, I feel you have to do one of the following:<\/p>\n<p>1) Challenge my interpretation of the Good Friday narrative and of the Gospel stories in general and what they tell us about Jesus. If you\u2019re not going to do that, I think you\u2019ll have to<\/p>\n<p>2a) Challenge whether Jesus intended his followers to base their ethics on his teachings and example, or<\/p>\n<p>2b) Assert that Jesus was wrong, and that Christians in Iraq and Afghanistan should not be following his teachings or example. (Maybe this is your intent?)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>But it really comes down to the fact that this conflict of ideals <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/robert-greenwald-and-derrick-crowe\/pentagon-to-white-house-a_b_860063.html\">will not allow for a military option to be viewed as successful<\/a> , regardless of if it is or not. That is the purpose of Rethink Afghanistan. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>With the report from USA Today that the group Rethink Afghanistan was quick to jump on &hellip; <a title=\"The real thinking behind Rethink Afghanistan.\" class=\"hm-read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=23307\"><span class=\"screen-reader-text\">The real thinking behind Rethink Afghanistan.<\/span>Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":610,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[8,7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-23307","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-antiwar-crowd","category-terror-war"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/23307","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/610"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=23307"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/23307\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=23307"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=23307"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=23307"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}