{"id":1937,"date":"2008-06-24T16:48:29","date_gmt":"2008-06-24T20:48:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/valorguardians.com\/blog\/?p=1937"},"modified":"2008-06-24T16:50:19","modified_gmt":"2008-06-24T20:50:19","slug":"moveonorg-%e2%80%93-under-the-bus-with-the-lot-of-you","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=1937","title":{"rendered":"MoveOn.Org \u2013 Under the Bus with the lot of you!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Two days ago, I wrote about the position Obama had managed to pander himself into.  The MoveOn crowd demanded that he vow to filibuster the latest version of the FISA Bill.  This is what I wrote then:<\/p>\n<p><strong>Last fall he vowed to not only not support FISA reform that includes any kind of immunity; he made the MoveOn crowd swoon by promising to go after the telecoms and administration legally.<\/p>\n<p>So to answer the question of whether or not he\u2019s planning to filibuster the bill; no frigging way.<\/p>\n<p>He may be the Messiah to the far left base but he is JV in the Senate. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>According to the <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.washingtonpost.com\/the-trail\/2008\/06\/20\/obama_supports_fisa_legislatio.html\">Washington Post <\/a>today, I was 100% correct:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) today announced his support for a sweeping intelligence surveillance law that has been heavily denounced by the liberal activists who have fueled the financial engines of his presidential campaign.<\/p>\n<p>In his most substantive break with the Democratic Party&#8217;s base since becoming the presumptive nominee, Obama declared he will support the bill when it comes to a Senate vote, likely next week, despite misgivings about legal provisions for telecommunications corporations that cooperated with the Bush administration&#8217;s warrantless surveillance program of suspected terrorists.<\/p>\n<p>In so doing, Obama sought to walk the fine political line between GOP accusations that he is weak on foreign policy &#8212; Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) called passing the legislation a &#8220;vital national security matter&#8221; &#8212; and alienating his base.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Back in January his position was loudly applauded by the far lefties.  Here is a sample comment from Firedog Lake:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>He also wants Guantanamo closed yesterday, the signing statements to end and the &#8220;Unitary Executive&#8221; mindset dumped. He will advocate to end these illegal wiretaps, and make it clear to the American public that we don&#8217;t need to sacrifice our freedoms to be safe.<\/p>\n<p>Our Constitution is in good hands with a President Obama. His knowledge and commitment to the Constitution was my primary reason for supporting him. If you have a President who not only &#8220;gets it&#8221; but is a expert on the Constitution&#8212;so many of the BushCo wrongs will be righted the day that person takes office.<\/p>\n<p>Very, very pleased to hear this and I look forward to more stellar, patriotic decisions like this from Obama.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Of course that was when there was still a primary to be won and he had to stay left of Hillary Clinton.  And the childish clowns on the far left swooned over every socialist position the Messiah announced.<\/p>\n<p>That sentiment changed dramatically today.  Again at Firedog Lake, <a href=\"http:\/\/firedoglake.com\/2008\/06\/24\/o-senator-where-art-thou\/\">Jane Hamsher writes<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>That\u2019s what now passes for oversight in our Government \u2014 the Executive branch investigates its own allegations of criminality. Whatever else is true, there\u2019s just no getting around the fact that Obama \u2014 when seeking the nomination \u2014 vowed to support a filibuster of any bill that contains telecom immunity, and his failure to do that here will be a patent breach of that commitment. There\u2019s still time for him to adhere to that promise.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Hamsher\u2019s post is piling up comments like crazy; including\u201d<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Very disappointed in Obama. I guess he is primarily a gifted rhetoritician, his actual politics are closer to the DLC, I bet if he was in the senate in 02? he would have voted for AUMF.<br \/>\nNo, I won\u2019t vote for Nader, but my enthusiasim is diminished.<\/p>\n<p>Hiding out until this deal, which he had to have approved, is done.<br \/>\nCoward.<br \/>\nIf you\u2019re going to kill something at least have the courage to own up to the deed.<\/p>\n<p>This is a real moment of truth for Obama.<br \/>\nHe thinks he\u2019s seen bitterness\u2026 well, if he blows us off, he will see bitter in spades!<br \/>\nWhat\u2019s it going to be, Barack!<\/p>\n<p>Just read mcjoan @ http:\/\/dailykos.com\/ \u201c\u2026Pelosi is saying that maybe the Senate should take a little more time than she allowed in the House\u2026.\u201d<br \/>\nFucking idiot!!!!!!!!!!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>My, my, my, I think the kids are quite upset.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Two days ago, I wrote about the position Obama had managed to pander himself into. 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