{"id":18718,"date":"2010-04-21T07:00:32","date_gmt":"2010-04-21T12:00:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/valorguardians.com\/blog\/?p=18718"},"modified":"2010-04-21T07:14:48","modified_gmt":"2010-04-21T12:14:48","slug":"that-gaping-divide-claymore","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=18718","title":{"rendered":"That gaping divide [Claymore]"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Many have said that there\u2019s a gaping divide in this country\u2026but enough about Paris Hilton\u2019s sex organs.  I kid.  I\u2019m a kidder.  Anyway, that gaping divide; nothing illustrates it better than lurking around left wing blogs and internet forums, and randomly reading some of their conversations. For instance, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.democraticunderground.com\/discuss\/duboard.php?az=view_all&#038;address=389x8186960\">this little gem<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>It&#8217;s the Democrats who improve education, and health care,etc. It&#8217;s the Republicans who take money out of educational programs, who don&#8217;t want health care for everyone, and who want to get rid of Social Security. I&#8217;ve always seen the Democrats as the builders of our country and the Republicans as the spoilers. <\/p>\n<p>When I try to visualize what this country would be like if the Republicans got their way in everything, it wouldn&#8217;t be The United States of America anymore. It would be a rundown wasteland. I don&#8217;t get why Republican voters don&#8217;t get that. They shoot themselves in the foot (with the guns they keep toting around) every time they vote for a rethug.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Taken at face value, this has 90% of the standard bleeding heart talking points encapsulated in a single post. Education, health care (which I assume includes ripping babies out of wombs), Social Security and this person even got in some cheap name calling and stereotyping to boot, all of the hallmarks of what will go on to be a very popular thread on that forum.  What is interesting is that in this \u201cvisualization\u201d our little liberal engages in, they leave out anything remotely logical about this fantasy country they think Democrats are capable of building. In my little magical world, liberals would be forced to live in the constructs of their own making; take Detroit for instance. Please.  Someone take it, because it resembles a freakin\u2019 war zone after decades of social engineering and tinkering by a Democratic machine that\u2019s more akin to a vampire than some champion of the poor.  But, let me provide another beauty from that same thread:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Most Republicans are white and Christian. They view the Democratic party as only caring about &#8220;those people&#8221; i.e. non-whites and the poor. They view many Democrats as Atheists or Gays, or both, and the Democratic Party as the party of non-Christians. <\/p>\n<p>The old 3G mantra of &#8220;God, Guns and Gays&#8221; has a great deal to do with their worldview.<\/p>\n<p>And I say this even though I support the 2nd Amendment and the RKBA. <\/p>\n<p>Truly they only care about 3 &#8220;rights&#8221;&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>(1)RKBA<br \/>\n(2)Property rights<br \/>\n(3) The &#8220;right&#8221; to make money (aka the &#8220;right to steal&#8221;)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Starting to see a pattern?  Yeah, I know it\u2019s not exactly original, in fact we\u2019ve seen it plastered all over the news these last few weeks.  Sifting through that complete load of absolute crap could take someone days, but suffice it to say that I doubt the author of that amazing piece of shi\u2019ite even knows a single Republican, much less ever engaged one face to face in a logical debate, as opposed to endless emotional posturing.  I continue reading:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>just got into a &#8220;debate&#8221; with several online. I am shocked at the hatred these people have for their fellow human beings. I believe that these are people who have such resentment and contempt for anyone they deem beneath them that so that is really all they care about. They are not thinking of the world they live in or the welfare of others &#8211; except the rich.<br \/>\nI believe these people truly enjoy experiencing the emotions fo hatred and resentment. When others suffer, they feel better about themselves.<\/p>\n<p>Pretty sickening.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Yes. That\u2019s us, alright.  Providing people with a path to self-sufficiency, reliance on themselves and giving them the bulk of the fruits of their labor is hateful.  Clearly the solution is to drag everyone down so we\u2019re all equally miserable. But I digress:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I knew there was no reasoning in 2008 when I saw McCain\/Palin signs on the lawns of the only gay couple and the black family in my tiny, redneck republican town<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Rut roh, Rorge.  Now, let me be the first to say this; these types of posts embedded in an otherwise thoughtful echo chamber is usually denigrated as being some freeper lurker trying to drop a turd in their organic fruit punch. I\u2019d venture a guess and say they\u2019ll label this a fairy tale, but I\u2019d risk confusing this post with the one on DADT.  Let us continue:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The ability to connect the dots between action and consequence is a sign of higher intelligence. Not all are born with equal intelligence. People who vote Republican vote on a totally selfish basis. People who vote Democratic do so based on what is best for everyone. Republicans think in the &#8216;I&#8217; mode while Democrats think in the &#8216;we&#8217; mode. And contrary to &#8216;conventional wisdom&#8217; these facts don&#8217;t make Democrats altruistic or Republicans practical. It&#8217;s just a matter of being able to intelligently connect the dots between action and consequence. <\/p>\n<p>You don&#8217;t have to be an idealist and altruistic to see the larger picture as, for example, understanding that a better education for all people will make the country stronger in every aspect. In science, in innovation, in health, in leadership, in wealth and even in military might. There&#8217;s also no altruism in realizing that poverty has a deleterious effect on the country which would be turned around into a positive effect if people were lifted out of poverty and allowed to be an asset rather than a drain through no fault of their own. But that kind of thinking requires, well, actual thinking. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>There\u2019s a lot of basic truth in this person\u2019s post.  Where it falls to frickin\u2019 pieces is thinking that using the power of the government to steal and pass around what it sees fit to those who are either unwilling or uninterested in providing for themselves is immoral.  This more than anything typifies the Paris Hiltonesque vulvae chasm between the two major political schools of thought. While seemingly working toward the goal of lifting our fellow citizens up, and making this nation the best is can be, the paths couldn\u2019t be any further from one another than what\u2019s illustrated in these admittedly cherry picked comments. Rich, Jesus-loving whites with guns have ruined the nation, want to force rape victims to have unwanted children, think the earth is only 2000 years old, want to burn books, and are flag-waving brown people haters who believe Obama is from Alpha Centauri.  Explain to me how to reason with someone who thinks like that. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Many have said that there\u2019s a gaping divide in this country\u2026but enough about Paris Hilton\u2019s sex &hellip; <a title=\"That gaping divide [Claymore]\" class=\"hm-read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=18718\"><span class=\"screen-reader-text\">That gaping divide [Claymore]<\/span>Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":438,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[47],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-18718","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-liberals-suck"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18718","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/438"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=18718"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18718\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=18718"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=18718"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=18718"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}