{"id":18407,"date":"2010-04-06T09:51:47","date_gmt":"2010-04-06T14:51:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/valorguardians.com\/blog\/?p=18407"},"modified":"2010-04-06T10:53:47","modified_gmt":"2010-04-06T15:53:47","slug":"can-someone-help-me-with-votevets-logic","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=18407","title":{"rendered":"Can someone help me with VoteVets logic?"},"content":{"rendered":"

OK, let’s start with their new video, much like their video before that, and the video before that…<\/p>\n

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OK, IED’s are bad, Check.
\nPurple Hearts, bad, Check.
\nEFP’s, REAL BAD, Check.
\nMade in Iran, Check.
\nOil goes up $1, Iran gets $1.5 Billion. I don’t know, but am willing to accept as fact, so Check.
\nOil and Enemy, Check.
\nBreak that connection by breaking addiction (to FOREIGN oil) Check.<\/p>\n

Answer: Clean energy bill. (WHAT????) Will cut our dependence in half. (Where you getting that?)<\/p>\n

You know what would cut our dependence all the way down? Using Chariots.<\/p>\n

Here is Soltz on Ed Schultz<\/a>:<\/p>\n

JON SOLTZ, VOTEVETS.ORG: Absolutely, it\u2018s accurate, Ed. We wouldn\u2018t put anything out that isn\u2018t. The United States is the largest oil consumption country in the world. We buy oil through\u2014basically what happens when we buy the oil is it\u2018s driving the price up. If we cut our production in oil<\/strong>, which the House legislation did, then we lower the price of oil across the board<\/strong>. And then that hurts countries like Iran. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Try to noodle that one through. If we drop supply, the cost will go down. Someone show me that on a supply and demand curve. Go ahead Macro-economists, show me the logic of that statement. If we dump our supply, how the F does the amount of gross funds spent on international oil go down? This can’t possibly be accurate. The only way to lower the cost (and gross proceeds) would be to either a) lower DEMAND, or b) use our own oil to offset the loss of oil imported.<\/p>\n

If your family eats 15 bushels of apples every year, and you have 5 trees, how the Fug does chopping down your trees help lower the cost of apples? <\/p>\n

Every day VoteVets puts up another poll about Gays in the Military. To them on this issue, the proof is in the polls. OK, fine, reconcile your position with this poll<\/a>:<\/p>\n

Voters support offshore oil drilling more than ever, and most don\u2019t agree with President Obama\u2019s decision to limit where that drilling can be done. <\/p>\n

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 72% of U.S. voters believe offshore oil drilling should be allowed. Just 12% disagree and oppose such drilling, with another 16% who aren\u2019t sure. This is the highest level of support for drilling found in nearly three years of surveying. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Wind power, solar power, electricity….all good ideas, but none of them is a panacea. And this bill you are pushing will only result in increased costs for oil, which will drive up the cost of every single commodity in the country. And the disparity between the wealthy and the poor will grow. But of course, that is what nanny state supporters VoteVets want, on behalf of their overlords. Mind you, none of this shit helps John Q. Public. Your Ikea furniture, your snuggies, your shake weights, they don’t magically appear on the shelves. And few people ride a big wheel to the store. All those costs go up Jon. And you know who takes it in the shorts for that? Everyone. From the part time employees who will no longer be needed, to the producers of those products on down.<\/p>\n

The answer is simple, look at the supply and demand curves, and the sources of the supply. If you want to lower the amount of funds exported to foreign nations, you need to raise the supply produced domestically. <\/p>\n

BTW- You guys keep pushing electric cars. Any idea over there how electricity is made<\/a>? <\/p>\n

Power plants make electricity out of other forms of energy. Most electricity in the U.S. today comes from converting the heat energy released from burning fossil fuels–coal, natural gas and oil. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n

So, let’s engage in some VoteVetsian Logic. VoteVets supports Electricity, Electricity is made from Coal, some veterans are miners, Miners die in Coal Mine cave-ins and explosions, VoteVets supports killing Veterans.<\/p>\n

Classless and baseless allegation? Your damn right it is, just like every other posting of yours about how the right wants to kill people.<\/p>\n

UPDATE: BWAHAHAHAHAHA. Right after I posted this, VoteVets dicksmith put up a poll<\/a> that they did with lefty pollster Celinda Lake. I hurt my back pretty bad this weekend, so am going home to rest, but I will entirely fisk this piece of shit poll in the near future. If you get a chance, go read the sample and look at the poll questions. It is essentially a push poll, even leading the answers with statements in the question like: Now let me read you some things that some people believe will happen if comprehensive clean energy and climate reform is passed.<\/p>\n

Absolutely ridiculous. And check this out:<\/p>\n

Telephone numbers for the sample were generated randomly from a military sample and a radius sample drawn from military bases in the United States.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Pray tell how that “military sample” was generated….wasn’t from VoteVets members by any chance was it?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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