{"id":18287,"date":"2010-03-30T08:37:27","date_gmt":"2010-03-30T13:37:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/valorguardians.com\/blog\/?p=18287"},"modified":"2010-03-30T08:38:31","modified_gmt":"2010-03-30T13:38:31","slug":"solidarity-with-matthis","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=18287","title":{"rendered":"Solidarity with Matthis"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_18257\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-18257\" style=\"width: 297px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/chiroux-murray-brower-flag.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-18257\" title=\"chiroux-murray-brower flag\" src=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/chiroux-murray-brower-flag-297x300.jpg\" alt=\"IVAW's Matthis Chiroux, Robyn Murray and MFSO's Elaine Brower burn the US flag &quot;This is not my country!&quot;\" width=\"297\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/chiroux-murray-brower-flag-297x300.jpg 297w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/chiroux-murray-brower-flag.jpg 496w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 297px) 100vw, 297px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-18257\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">IVAW&#39;s Matthis Chiroux, Robyn Murray and MFSO&#39;s Elaine Brower burn the US flag &quot;This is not my country!&quot;<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Surprise! Another IVAW member who didn&#8217;t deploy to the War Against Terror supports Matthis&#8217; flag-burning exploits on the public pages of IVAW. This one is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ivaw.org\/carl-davison\">Carl Davison<\/a> who enlisted not once but twice &#8211; in the Marines and the Army. I&#8217;ll republish his rant, but don&#8217;t expect anything too coherent;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Some have said that burning a flag is an aggressive act of war, I agree, By supporting resistance to these wars and the conduct of the US government we are fighting a form of social war on them, not a war with arms, we are putting ourselves in an adversarial position to them and true we do not all agree one each others chosen methods of bringing change but are we going to require every member to police themselves and tame her or his passion just because some it might be seen as bad, there are plenty of active duty soldiers and veterans who are supportive of burning the flag and there are those very against it, We can only speak for ourselves when we are out in public.<\/p>\n<p>I went to jail for refusing to deploy to Iraq after more than 7 years in the military because I finally realized that to separate thought and verbal support from acts, what you actually do is essentially hypocrisy&#8230;if you feel something is right, do it, dont talk about supporting the action (Im not talking about supporting ones right to do it Im talking about supporting the act) and to say that one of us can represent all of us is ridiculous. As long as someone&#8217;s actions are for ending these wars and dont cause death are serious injury. I support those actions. But that is just me not everyone in this organization, Its not just Matthis, here are more vets out there who support the act of burning the flag, and have burnt flags before (I have myself). If a member is getting threats like Matthis (I dont know about Robyn or Elaine) we should have their back, because there were just expressing their views as free human beings. Personally I think flags are symbols of divisions and pain and yes, &#8220;flag burning is cool&#8221;, Break that which breaks you! In solidarity with Matthis!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I don&#8217;t know anyone who has threatened Matthis, but the &#8220;flag burning is cool&#8221; line is<a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=18219\"> lifted directly from one of my posts<\/a> on the subject. Disagreeing with Matthis isn&#8217;t &#8220;threatening&#8221; him, you drama queen. You can manufacture any excuse you want to support Chiroux, but don&#8217;t use me as your impetus, needledick.<\/p>\n<p>The only threats I&#8217;ve seen against Matthis is IF he decides to enter Texas and none of those threats were made on this blog. It&#8217;s funny how most of the people who support Matthis&#8217; theater never fired a shot in the war. I&#8217;m just sayin&#8217;.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Surprise! Another IVAW member who didn&#8217;t deploy to the War Against Terror supports Matthis&#8217; flag-burning exploits &hellip; <a title=\"Solidarity with Matthis\" class=\"hm-read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=18287\"><span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Solidarity with Matthis<\/span>Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[8,37,30,52],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-18287","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-antiwar-crowd","category-ivaw","category-phony-soldiers","category-usual-suspects"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18287","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=18287"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18287\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=18287"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=18287"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=18287"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}