{"id":18258,"date":"2010-03-27T11:26:45","date_gmt":"2010-03-27T16:26:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/valorguardians.com\/blog\/?p=18258"},"modified":"2010-03-27T12:26:55","modified_gmt":"2010-03-27T17:26:55","slug":"the-hyperbole-of-flag-burning","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=18258","title":{"rendered":"The hyperbole of flag burning"},"content":{"rendered":"<a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/chiroux-murray-brower-flag.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/chiroux-murray-brower-flag.jpg\" alt=\"IVAW&#039;s Matthis Chiroux, Robyn Murray and MFSO&#039;s Elaine Brower burn the US flag &quot;This is not my country!&quot;\" title=\"chiroux-murray-brower flag\" width=\"496\" height=\"500\" class=\"size-full wp-image-18257\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/chiroux-murray-brower-flag.jpg 496w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/chiroux-murray-brower-flag-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/chiroux-murray-brower-flag-297x300.jpg 297w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 496px) 100vw, 496px\" \/><\/a>\n<p>Yes, there is a lot of drama over Matthis&#8217; flag burning adventure last weekend. A good number of IVAW members oppose the utterly pointless demonstration by Matthis, Robyn Murray and Elaine Brower. You can hear <a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=10373\">Elaine Browe<\/a>r, whose Marine Corps son has completed at least three tours of the War Against Terror, screech &#8220;That&#8217;s what we think of this country!&#8221; while Matthis stomps on the burning flag in this video;<\/p>\n<p><object width=\"500\" height=\"333\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/gbqeHEOunzE&#038;hl=en_US&#038;fs=1&#038;\"><\/param><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\"><\/param><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\"><\/param><embed src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/gbqeHEOunzE&#038;hl=en_US&#038;fs=1&#038;\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" allowscriptaccess=\"always\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" width=\"500\" height=\"333\"><\/embed><\/object><\/p>\n<p>And yet, I&#8217;ll bet she&#8217;s still in the US this morning. <\/p>\n<p>The third person in the video, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=1842\">Robyn Murray starred in one of our posts<\/a> a couple of years back when she was captured in a video interview. Her only real complaint about her time in Iraq was the fact that she was 19.<\/p>\n<p><object width=\"500\" height=\"333\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/TI45tHE5o7M&#038;hl=en_US&#038;fs=1&#038;\"><\/param><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\"><\/param><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\"><\/param><embed src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/TI45tHE5o7M&#038;hl=en_US&#038;fs=1&#038;\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" allowscriptaccess=\"always\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" width=\"500\" height=\"333\"><\/embed><\/object><\/p>\n<p>One of the Austin, TX IVAW crowd, Bobby Whittenburg wrote a bit about the flag burning yesterday at his blog <a href=\"http:\/\/veteranarchy.blogspot.com\/2010\/03\/burning-flags-and-tearing-down-walls.html\">Veter(A)narchy<\/a> using hyperbole as a weapon;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Matthis has received threats of violence, rape, and death. Such threats truly show the character of people loyal to the American flag and the American government.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Actually it does show character &#8211; I scoured your comments and couldn&#8217;t find not one threat of violence, rape or death in the several responses to the posts. I can&#8217;t imagine anyone threatening to rape Matthis in the first place and a threat is just childish any-damn-way without the opportunity to act on the threat. I think they&#8217;re disappointed that no one threatened them, so they make shit up to ratchet up the drama.<\/p>\n<p>Personally, if I were a member of IVAW, I&#8217;d take a long look at myself in regards to the message that IVAW is trying to convey. It took them a year of waffling on Carl Webb before they finally tossed his punk ass to the curb. Geof Millard, the president of the board of directors <a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=5858\">wears unearned awards on his uniform<\/a>. Jose Vasquez, the Executive Director of IRAQ VETERANS Against the War has <a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=13429\">never set foot outside of the US in uniform<\/a>. Now Vasquez thinks his Puerto Rican heritage excuses his lack of an&#8221;affinity&#8221; for the US flag &#8211; irrespective of his years of service as an NCO in the US Army &#8211; and all of thospay checks he got. Vasquez replaced <a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=12751\">Alex Bacon<\/a>, who went AWOL from the Coast Guard while stationed in Hawaii patrolling fisheries (no shit, really). <\/p>\n<p>And then there&#8217;s Matthis who claimed for the longest time that he was an Afghanistan veteran when the only two places he&#8217;s ever been stationed is Japan and Germany. He claims he has PTSD from interviewing real combat veterans. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=9702\">He apologized to Malalai Joya<\/a> for occupying the corner booth at Baskin Robbins on Bagram Air Base for six days.<\/p>\n<p>There are <a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=14444\">countless examples<\/a> of reasons to leave the dorks at IVAW behind. I&#8217;m thinking all of these doofuses are making money from their antics, why else would they work so hard at being caricatures of anti-war assholes? Folks like Bobby Whittenberg &#8211; an honest to goodness Purple Heart wearing hero &#8211; are being manipulated by the accolades he gets from cowards like <a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=11096\">Doug Zachary<\/a> and Matthis Chiroux. And it&#8217;s a cryin&#8217;-ass shame that he doesn&#8217;t see it.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Yes, there is a lot of drama over Matthis&#8217; flag burning adventure last weekend. 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