{"id":176845,"date":"2025-12-02T09:33:45","date_gmt":"2025-12-02T14:33:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/valorguardians.com\/blog\/?p=176845"},"modified":"2025-12-02T09:33:45","modified_gmt":"2025-12-02T14:33:45","slug":"they-didnt-sow-dissension-in-the-ranks","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=176845","title":{"rendered":"They didn&#8217;t sow dissension in the ranks?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-176638 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/kelly-300x169.webp\" alt=\"\" width=\"394\" height=\"222\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/kelly-300x169.webp 300w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/kelly-500x281.webp 500w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/kelly-768x432.webp 768w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/kelly.webp 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 394px) 100vw, 394px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The Hill make the case for Senator Mark Kelly (D-AZ), part of the &#8220;Seditious Six&#8221;, disrupting good order and discipline. Almost like this was the plan all along&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>So after telling American service men and women that they didn&#8217;t have to follow illegal orders, Mark Kelly and the others were accused of seditious behavior. Was it? That&#8217;s the hard case to make, because they were just stating facts we all were taught in basic training and again every time we got refreshed on the LOAC. Well&#8230;The Hill nicely shows us that the natural consequence of planting the seeds of doubt is that the troops will start to question their orders. This was the plan.<\/p>\n<p>Once the troops start questioning their orders, the media can report on how the troops are suddenly constantly concerned about receiving illegal orders. They will scream, &#8220;The Trump Administration is lawless!&#8221; See! The Seditious Six was right all along. Even if they never give a quantification to\u00a0<em>how many<\/em> are concerned.<\/p>\n<p>From <a href=\"https:\/\/thehill.com\/policy\/defense\/5628685-service-members-boat-strikes-orders-hegseth\/\">The Hill<\/a>,<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<h3>Fears grow inside military over illegal orders after Hegseth authorized follow-up boat strike<\/h3>\n<p>There is an increasing apprehension among service members that they may be asked to carry out an illegal order, amid reports Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth ordered troops to \u201ckill everybody\u201d in a boat strike in September.<\/p>\n<p>The concerns, reflected in an uptick in calls to the Orders Project \u2014 which provides free legal advice to military personnel \u2014 come from the likes of staff officers involved in planning the strikes on supposed drug-carrying boats and those in charge of designating those on the vessels as a threat in order to carry out such attacks.<\/p>\n<p>Even as a reported Justice Department classified memo from this summer preemptively argued that U.S. troops involved in the strikes would not be in legal jeopardy, service members appear far more concerned than usual that the U.S. military may be opening them up to legal harm, according to Frank Rosenblatt, president of the National Institute of Military Justice, which runs the Orders Project.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThey have questions, because this didn\u2019t come up before. This was never an issue throughout both administrations of the global war on terror in Iraq or Afghanistan. No one ever came down and said, \u2018You\u2019re immunized for any potential crimes you commit,\u2019\u201d Rosenblatt told The Hill of the increase in calls to his organization. Established in 2020, he said such \u201cactivity was generally very low until three months ago.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think most people knew they did their jobs faithfully and didn\u2019t do things that are beyond the pale, like executing civilians, that they would be OK and wouldn\u2019t be prosecuted. So now to have this immunity as part of the discussion really tends to chill people and make them ask, \u2018What the heck\u2019s going on? What is it that I might be asked to do?\u2019\u201d he added.<\/p>\n<p>Service members\u2019 uncertainty over whether they will be asked to carry out an illegal order or pressured to go against their training is likely to be exacerbated after The Washington Post and CNN late last week reported that Hegseth authorized a highly unusual strike to kill all survivors aboard a boat allegedly carrying drugs in the Caribbean Sea this fall.<\/p>\n<p>White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt confirmed Monday that on Sept. 2, Hegseth authorized Adm. Frank Bradley to carry out a follow-up strike on an alleged drug boat in the Caribbean; the strike reportedly killed two people who were hanging onto the burning vessel, having survived an initial strike.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cPresident Trump and Secretary Hegseth have made it clear that presidentially designated narco-terrorist groups are subject to lethal targeting in accordance with the laws of war,\u201d Leavitt said. \u201cAdm. Bradley worked well within his authority and the law to ensure the boat was destroyed and the threat to the United States of America was eliminated.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>There&#8217;s more at the source if you want to give them the clicks.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Hill make the case for Senator Mark Kelly (D-AZ), part of the &#8220;Seditious Six&#8221;, disrupting &hellip; <a title=\"They didn&#8217;t sow dissension in the ranks?\" class=\"hm-read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=176845\"><span class=\"screen-reader-text\">They didn&#8217;t sow dissension in the ranks?<\/span>Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":664,"featured_media":176638,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5,122],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-176845","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-politics","category-veterans-in-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/176845","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/664"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=176845"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/176845\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/176638"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=176845"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=176845"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=176845"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}