{"id":15745,"date":"2009-11-23T18:42:50","date_gmt":"2009-11-23T23:42:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/valorguardians.com\/blog\/?p=15745"},"modified":"2011-06-18T08:53:14","modified_gmt":"2011-06-18T12:53:14","slug":"surrender-sounds-so-easy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=15745","title":{"rendered":"Surrender sounds so easy"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I read this at <a href=\"http:\/\/threatswatch.org\/rapidrecon\/2009\/11\/whispers-of-surrender-in-afgha\/\">ThreatsWatch<\/a> earlier today, but it just sounded so incredible that I didn&#8217;t want to believe it, let alone write about it;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>It comes to our attention that the MEMRI Blog highlights an article from the Saudi al-Watan in Arabic that &#8211; according to an Afghan source &#8211; the United States is talking to the Taliban seeking to trade control of 5 provinces in exchange for the cessation of attacks on US bases. MEMRI summarizes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>An Afghan source in Kabul reports that U.S. Ambassador in Afghanistan Karl Eikenberry is holding secret talks with Taliban elements headed by the movement&#8217;s foreign minister, Ahmad Mutawakil, at a secret location in Kabul. According to the source, the U.S. has offered the Taliban control of the Kandahar, Helmand, Oruzgan, Kunar and Nuristan provinces in return for a halt to the Taliban missile attacks on U.S. bases.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Kunar province borders the Khyber Pass region where the majority of US and NATO supplies pass enroute from Pakistan. And the remaining four provinces constitute fully the southern 25% of Afghanistan&#8217;s territory.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>But the more I thought about it, the more credible it sounded. From Uncle Jimbo at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.blackfive.net\/main\/2009\/11\/eikenberry-working-on-a-surrender-to-the-taliban.html\">Blackfive<\/a>;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Like I said this is a sole source so far, but sadly it fits in with Eikenberry&#8217;s strategically leaked messages stabbing Gen. McChrystal in the back by calling for no reinforcements. It also offers President Obama the opportunity to start the exfil from the country and avoid having to attempt to win.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>From <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mudvillegazette.com\/032953.html\">Greyhawk<\/a>;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The story defies logic and belief, but unfortunately if the US State Department (or the White House) hasn&#8217;t responded clearly and forcefully to unequivocally deny the allegations yet, now would be a good time to do that, too. The current administration has elected to conduct its Afghanistan business via leaks and rumors.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>From <a href=\"http:\/\/www.villainouscompany.com\/vcblog\/archives\/2009\/11\/amateur_hour_in.html\">Cassandra<\/a>;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Can you imagine the reaction if George Bush were still in office? Would any sane person give a story like this the time of day? Sadly, Obama&#8217;s hands off (to put it mildly) leadership style and ineffectual waffling inspire confidence in neither his grasp of the situation nor his resolve:<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I still don&#8217;t want to believe the article, but Obama has put his foreign policy on cruise control while he focuses on taking over the economy. He has Karl Eikenberry providing guidance and I&#8217;ve been warning you that Eikenberry was a dickhead, a dangerous dickhead, when he was my PL, and apparently he hasn&#8217;t changed in 35 years. <\/p>\n<p>Like Jimbo pointed out, this is the same kind of deal that the Pakistanis tried to strike with the Taliban last year. Now the Pakistani Army is trying to dislodge the Taliban because they used their territories as a base from which to strike the rest of the country with suicide bombers. Not like they haven&#8217;t done that before.<\/p>\n<p>All of this talk about diplomacy and give-and-take sounds dreamy, but for Pete&#8217;s sake, look who we&#8217;re talking about here.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I read this at ThreatsWatch earlier today, but it just sounded so incredible that I didn&#8217;t &hellip; <a title=\"Surrender sounds so easy\" class=\"hm-read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=15745\"><span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Surrender sounds so easy<\/span>Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[46,84,7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-15745","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-barack-obama","category-military-issues","category-terror-war"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15745","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=15745"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15745\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=15745"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=15745"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=15745"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}