{"id":149981,"date":"2023-11-20T07:00:53","date_gmt":"2023-11-20T12:00:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/valorguardians.com\/blog\/?p=149981"},"modified":"2023-11-19T20:36:04","modified_gmt":"2023-11-20T01:36:04","slug":"a-tale-of-two-successful-ships-sorta","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=149981","title":{"rendered":"A tale of two successful&#8230;ships, sorta"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"caas-img-wrapper\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"caas-img caas-lazy has-preview caas-loaded aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/s.yimg.com\/ny\/api\/res\/1.2\/E2W7swYKNtyWXFcfkPYTtg--\/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtoPTY0MDtjZj13ZWJw\/https:\/\/media.zenfs.com\/en\/the_warzone_735\/06b14c39dc24882c394e5a7865e3ab79\" alt=\"JS&lt;em&gt; Noshiro&lt;\/em&gt;'s forward Mark 45 127mm naval gun system. &lt;em&gt;Japan Ministry of Defense&lt;\/em&gt;\" width=\"500\" height=\"333\" data-caas-lazy-loading-init=\"1\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Hate to lead off an article with the ill-fated Littoral Combat Ships, the Navy&#8217;s floating equivalent to the Army&#8217;s old Sergeant York\u00a0 system which crashed and burned before it ever got rolling&#8230; (I carefully didn&#8217;t say anything about the F-35 because that overpriced pig at least flies like it is supposed to.)\u00a0 But yes, let&#8217;s use them as a comparison&#8230; say, to the Japanese Mogami class frigate.<\/p>\n<p>The Mogami is a bit larger than either LCS model, up to 5500 tons versus 3450. A better direct comparison might be the Asigiri class, but actually we&#8217;re looking at the launch process, not the tonnage &#8211;\u00a0 the LCS was started in 2002 and its first completed ship delivered in 2008. The Mogami-class started orders in 2018, and to date has already delivered 4 ships, the most recent of which went down the ways on November 18. The prime difference, of course, is that the LCS has been widely accepted as a disaster, with ships breaking apart, and in come cases retired before adequate service. A total of 12 Mogami are to be delivered by 2027.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Propulsion-wise, ships of the <em>Mogami<\/em> class are powered by a single Rolls-Royce <u>MT30<\/u> gas turbine and two MAN Diesel <u>V28\/33DD STC<\/u> engines. The ships can achieve high speeds in excess of 30 knots (some 34.5 miles per hour).<\/p>\n<p>Each frigate is armed with BAE Systems&#8217; Mark 45 5-inch (127mm) naval gun system, alongside two 12.7mm remote weapon systems by Japan Steel Works. They also boast Lockheed Martin\u2019s 16-cell <u>Mk 41<\/u> vertical launching system for launching MHI\u2019s <u>Type 03 Chu-SAM<\/u> surface-to-air missiles. The vessels can fire eight\u00a0ship-launched variants of MHI\u2019s <u>Type 12<\/u> anti-ship missile. Raytheon\u2019s <u>SeaRAM<\/u> system provides a close-in last line of defense against incoming missiles and even small boats. Sea mines, exactly which variants are unclear, along with mine-laying equipment can be deployed for mine warfare work.<\/p>\n<p>With regards to sensors and radars, the frigates boast Mitsubishi Electric\u2019s OPY-2 X-band multi-purpose active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar and Mitsubishi Electric\u2019s OAX-3 electro-optical\/infrared (EO\/IR) sensors. Owing to their multi-mission purpose, the frigates feature the NEC OQQ-25 variable depth sonar (VDS)\/towed array sonar system (TASS) for anti-submarine warfare (ASW), and a hull-mounted OQQ-11 anti-mine sonar from Hitachi. The vessels also feature the OYQ-1 combat management system and the OYX-1-29 information display\/processing system.<\/p>\n<p>To the rear of the frigates, a landing deck and single-hagar can support a <u>Mitsubishi SH-60L<\/u> Sea Hawk helicopter. <em>Mogami<\/em> class frigates are also capable of deploying and recovering two of <u>MHI\u2019s OZZ-5<\/u> uncrewed underwater vehicles (UUV), and two uncrewed surface vehicles (USV) \u2014 the exact type remains unclear \u2014 for minesweeping. They also feature two <u>rigid-hull inflatable boats <\/u>(RHIBs).<\/p>\n<p>All of this is packed into a reduced signature design which will provide greater survivability for the class, allowing it to look like a much smaller vessel when operating in highly trafficked waterways or littoral areas. Overall radar detection range is also decreased, making long-range detection and engagement more challenging for enemy forces.\u00a0 <a href=\"https:\/\/news.yahoo.com\/japans-futuristic-mogami-frigates-everything-213510605.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall\">TheWarZone<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So they have a littoral combat ship&#8230;successfully. Oh, and due to advanced automation, the Mogami needs a crew of 90, versus its predecessors&#8217; crews of 220. By comparison, the Navy LCS core crew is 40 &#8211; but needs an additional crew, up to 75 personnel, depending on what mission it has. Sure helps with recruiting shortfalls, huh.<\/p>\n<p>Then the part that really hurts&#8230;average cost for a Mogami is estimated at about $300,000,000. The best price for an LCS is about $352 million, but the first few cost over a half-billion &#8211; each.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The Navy is decommissioning nine of 35 littoral combat ships in the next few years, alongside the five already abandoned. Some, like the recently retired LCS Sioux City, entered service less than five years ago.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>All in, that is a loss of about $7 billion&#8230;\u00a0 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.defensenews.com\/naval\/2023\/10\/04\/can-the-us-navy-save-money-by-accepting-the-lcs-as-a-sunk-cost\/\">Defense News<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Maybe we need to have the guts to order them from Japan?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hate to lead off an article with the ill-fated Littoral Combat Ships, the Navy&#8217;s floating equivalent &hellip; <a title=\"A tale of two successful&#8230;ships, sorta\" class=\"hm-read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=149981\"><span class=\"screen-reader-text\">A tale of two successful&#8230;ships, sorta<\/span>Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":668,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[213,119],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-149981","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-your-tax-dollars-at-work","category-navy"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/149981","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/668"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=149981"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/149981\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=149981"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=149981"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=149981"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}