{"id":138919,"date":"2023-03-20T06:00:22","date_gmt":"2023-03-20T10:00:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/valorguardians.com\/blog\/?p=138919"},"modified":"2023-03-19T19:19:30","modified_gmt":"2023-03-19T23:19:30","slug":"just-doesnt-feel-quite-right","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=138919","title":{"rendered":"Just doesn&#8217;t feel quite right"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-111917 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/aav-300x158.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"158\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/aav-300x158.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/aav-768x403.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/aav-500x263.jpg 500w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/aav.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>You may remember back to July 2020, when a US Marine Assault Amphibious Vehicle (AAV) went down in training and killed 8 Marines and a sailor. At the time, the Corps did a thorough inspection of the vehicle fleet:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"Paragraph-sc-1tqpf5s-0 kEzXdV body-paragraph body-paragraph\">The thorough inspection, based off of initial tests developed by the manufacturers, found that nearly all AAVs in the Marine Corps leaked at unacceptable rates.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph-sc-1tqpf5s-0 kEzXdV body-paragraph body-paragraph\">Only 10 of 3rd Assault Amphibian Battalion\u2019s nearly 200 vehicles passed the more intense inspection, Operations Officer Marine Maj. Justin Davis said while testifying at a board of inquiry for the unit\u2019s former battalion commander, Lt. Col. Keith Brenize, on Dec. 7 at Quantico, Virginia.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph-sc-1tqpf5s-0 kEzXdV body-paragraph body-paragraph\">\u201cThese are old vehicles,\u201d Lt. Col. Matthew Hohl, the executive officer for 3rd AA Battalion, said during his Friday testimony.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph-sc-1tqpf5s-0 kEzXdV body-paragraph body-paragraph\">\u201cAs a community, AAVs are extremely maintenance heavy,\u201d he added, noting that an AAV typically requires eight hours of maintenance for every hour of operation.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.marinecorpstimes.com\/news\/your-marine-corps\/2021\/12\/15\/marine-amphibious-assault-vehicles-permanently-pulled-from-deployments\/\">Military Times<\/a><\/p>\n<p>10 out of 200&#8230;like Mr. the Cable Guy would say, I don&#8217;t care who you are: that&#8217;s a lot. And operational time of an hour for 8 hours of maintenance? Incredible.<\/p>\n<p>In late 2021 the Marines said the AAV was not to be used on water or landings except in emergencies (it&#8217;s replacement, the Amphibious Combat Vehicle (ACV) would take over the A\u00a0 (Amphibious) bits, despite at the time having a problem with its own towing mechanism. So, on water, no AAVs, used an ACV instead &#8211; except they were restricted, too. As of November, ACVs were restricted in surf zone operations, so I guess you could use them off shore and on-shore but not in between? This is a bit confusing.<\/p>\n<p>So the upshot is that we have these $5,000,000 ACVs,\u00a0 which we are using to replace the 40-year-old AAVs. OK<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In a statement to Defense News on Friday, a Marine Corps spokesman said that while fleet\u2019s average age is 40 years, the vehicles have undergone \u201ca Service Life Extension Program (SLEP), a Reliability Availability Maintainability\/ Rebuilt to Standard Program (RAM\/RS), and scheduled cycles through depot-level maintenance\u201d throughout their lives.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Geez, these things have been through more facelifts than Phyllis Diller. (You youngsters can ask someone older what that means.)<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"Paragraph-sc-1tqpf5s-0 kEzXdV body-paragraph body-paragraph\">The U.S. government has approved the sale of dozens of\u00a0 Assault Amphibious Vehicles to Greece roughly a year after the Marine Corps barred the tracked vehicles from regular deployments following a fatal sinking incident in 2020.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph-sc-1tqpf5s-0 kEzXdV body-paragraph body-paragraph\">The U.S. State Department approved NATO ally Greece to buy up to 76 Assault Amphibious Vehicles worth $268 million, according to an announcement on Friday. The Marine Corps, which maintains the vehicles are safe, intends to supply the vehicles from its inventory.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph-sc-1tqpf5s-0 kEzXdV body-paragraph body-paragraph\">Greece, which has sought the deal since at least 2022, has asked to buy 63 of the personnel variant of the so-called AAV, nine of the command variant and four of the recovery variant, with 63 50-caliber machine guns, as well as MK-19 grenade launchers and M36E T1 thermal sights among the related equipment.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.militarytimes.com\/pentagon\/2023\/03\/17\/greece-buying-vehicles-that-marines-corps-beached-after-fatal-sinking\/\">Military Times II<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Objectively, if these things cost $5 mill new and after 40 years we can get $3.5 mill each, that&#8217;s incredible. Wish my cars did that. On the other hand, two questions:<\/p>\n<p>1) One can hope the Greeks know their limitations. After all, they are our allies &#8211; if they aren&#8217;t good amphibious vehicles, should we be inflicting them on a predominantly island\/coastal country? On our friends?<\/p>\n<p>2) The sad one&#8230; do we have some serious Naval design issues? I look at all the fast and good designs from WWII\u00a0 and then I look at deployment time for the Gerald Ford, or some of the designs that barely last an election cycle (yes, you, Littoral Combat ship), and I cringe. 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