{"id":1346,"date":"2008-03-14T09:23:31","date_gmt":"2008-03-14T13:23:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/valorguardians.com\/blog\/?p=1346"},"modified":"2008-03-29T16:40:37","modified_gmt":"2008-03-29T20:40:37","slug":"live-ivaw-winter-soldier","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=1346","title":{"rendered":"Live blogging Winter Soldier II (Part I)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There&#8217;s a blow-by-blow and more in depth profiles of the testimony at <a href=\"http:\/\/3-116thsniper.blogspot.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">The Sniper<\/a> by my battle buddy on this operation Thus Spake Ortner.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/03\/dsc_0004.JPG\" title=\"dsc_0004.JPG\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/03\/dsc_0004.JPG\" title=\"dsc_0004.JPG\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/farm3.static.flickr.com\/2195\/2332344975_bee420483e.jpg\" alt=\"dsc_0004.JPG\" height=\"333\" width=\"500\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Clifton Hicks and Stephen Casing ; buildings bulldozed is a crime? &#8220;I know of people who took advantage of the &#8220;free fire zone&#8221;, &#8220;collateral damage&#8221;, &#8220;I heard&#8230;&#8221; &#8220;I know for a fact that (700-800 casualties) were civilians because they were on the other side of the road&#8221;, &#8220;damaged city square is evidence of civilian casualties&#8221;. &#8220;I know there were no insugents&#8221; &#8220;Some insurgents engaged with mortar fire from the buildings.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/farm4.static.flickr.com\/3072\/2332367243_dc69bf55a1.jpg\" height=\"333\" width=\"500\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">Thus Spake Ortner says he saw Dennis Kucinich here.<\/p>\n<p>Hicks;  &#8220;A packed Hummvee (82d ABN) engaged insugents after an IED attack &#8211; couldn&#8217;t find insurgents, kicked in door of house (source of fire) found a wedding party (old Grampa, et al.) troops shot up wedding after receiving fire from house. Found six-year-old dead after paratroopers were done shooting up the party. Not soldiers fault, illustrates carelessness over civilian casualties of the command structure &#8211; told to charlie mike.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Gerry Kiley (about 60 years old) just jumped up and shouted &#8220;Kerry lied, good men died&#8221; and was manhandled from the room by security. Here&#8217;s a video I found at YouTube of Kiley&#8217;s arrest;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">[youtube -GUmX3HY1AU nolink]<\/p>\n<p>Stephen Casing; Video of busting up a suspected insurgent house &#8211; only occupied by &#8220;a little old lady&#8221;.  The &#8220;old lady, we can&#8217;t see because of the video quality speaks real good (I mean REAL GOOD) English. Supposed frightened she shouts &#8211; &#8220;My children! My children! Help me!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Mortillo: &#8220;Hard to tell who&#8217;s the enemy &#8211; makes you mad&#8221;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">[youtube Z4_dj_xGgb0 nolink]<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/farm4.static.flickr.com\/3196\/2333256026_da11d4836f.jpg\" height=\"333\" width=\"500\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Jesse (); Iraqis (security forces) don&#8217;t show restraint firing their weapons. &#8220;I never saw civilians getting killed by these actions&#8221; &#8220;Pretentious of us to change their culture &#8211; Iraq is a lost cause because the Iraqis are so primitive&#8221; &#8220;it&#8217;s their culture &#8211; let them do what they want&#8221;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/farm3.static.flickr.com\/2126\/2333194916_8831d3daa0.jpg\" height=\"333\" width=\"500\" \/><\/p>\n<p> Adam Kokesh; Now claims he was against the war before he went the first time (he&#8217;s claimed the opposite at varying times)<\/p>\n<p>Read aloud the Rules of Engagement (&#8220;Isnt that classified?&#8221; asked TSO)<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">[youtube jSZtzdH9XFI nolink]<\/p>\n<p>Unit unofficial motto; &#8220;We care so you don&#8217;t have to&#8221; &#8220;So Paul Bremer, Dick Cheney, George Bush doesn&#8217;t have to care. SO you can go to the Mall and not think about what we&#8217;re doing in Iraq.&#8221; Admits that interrogators were punished for abusing  captured Iraqis.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/farm3.static.flickr.com\/2123\/2332478733_fb2fb45dd6.jpg\" height=\"333\" width=\"500\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Jason Hurd (medic 2ID) complains that a fifty cal. gunner unloaded 200 hundred rounds returning fire &#8211; never shecked the building for casualties so he doesn&#8217;t know. He just knows that a fifty cal fired at a building. Appalled that soldiers joked about their exploits &#8220;Did you see that car I fired up?&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Claims he almost (but didn&#8217;t)  shoot an 80-year-old woman because she wouldn&#8217;t stop for him. Does the Army use medics (noncomabtants) to stop traffic? &#8220;If a foreign occupation force took over the US&#8230;blah&#8230;blah&#8230;blah&#8221; Enthusiastic applause from crowd.<\/p>\n<p>Time for a break.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There&#8217;s a blow-by-blow and more in depth profiles of the testimony at The Sniper by my &hellip; <a title=\"Live blogging Winter Soldier II (Part I)\" class=\"hm-read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=1346\"><span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Live blogging Winter Soldier II (Part I)<\/span>Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[8,28,37,5,31,38],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1346","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-antiwar-crowd","category-bloggers-and-stuff","category-ivaw","category-politics","category-protestsrallies","category-winter-soldier-ii-live-blogging"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1346","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1346"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1346\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1346"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1346"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1346"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}