{"id":131969,"date":"2022-10-10T06:00:32","date_gmt":"2022-10-10T10:00:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/valorguardians.com\/blog\/?p=131969"},"modified":"2022-10-09T20:06:23","modified_gmt":"2022-10-10T00:06:23","slug":"vp-harris-says-you-can-be-religious-and-support-abortion-faith-leaders-say-uh-no","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=131969","title":{"rendered":"VP Harris says you can be religious and support abortion. Faith leaders say &#8220;uh, no&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-90020\" src=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/Kamala-Harris-300x209.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"209\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/Kamala-Harris-300x209.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/Kamala-Harris-768x535.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/Kamala-Harris-478x333.jpg 478w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>VP Kamala Harris says Americans of faith do not need to &#8216;abandon their faith&#8217; to support\u00a0 abortion.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cThat\u2019s such an important point to raise,\u201d she said. \u201cIt is her choice and it should be her choice to make, if she chooses a consultation with a loved one, with a healthcare provider, with her faith leader.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI say this,\u201d continued Harris, \u201cone does not have to abandon their faith or their beliefs to agree that the government should not be making that decision for her. It\u2019s literally that basic.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This follows in the footsteps of Catholic politicians like Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi, who also support abortion. Seems <em>her<\/em> bishop doesn&#8217;t agree:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a self-professed Catholic, said in August that it is \u201csinful\u201d to <a class=\"link \" href=\"https:\/\/www.nationalreview.com\/news\/pelosi-says-its-sinful-to-oppose-abortion\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" data-ylk=\"slk:oppose\" data-rapid_p=\"17\" data-v9y=\"1\">oppose<\/a> abortion, claiming that restrictions are an \u201cassault on women of color and women [in] lower income families.\u201d In May,\u00a0San Francisco archbishop Salvatore Cordileone <a class=\"link \" href=\"https:\/\/www.nationalreview.com\/news\/san-francisco-archbishop-bars-pelosi-from-receiving-communion-over-abortion-stance\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" data-ylk=\"slk:barred\" data-rapid_p=\"18\" data-v9y=\"1\">barred<\/a> Pelosi from receiving Communion in the Archdiocese of San Francisco over her stance on abortion, saying she was no longer eligible \u00a0\u201cunless and until she publicly repudiates her support for abortion \u2018rights\u2019 and confess and receive absolution for her cooperation in this evil in the sacrament of Penance.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/news.yahoo.com\/vice-president-harris-claims-americans-204900672.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall\">National Review via Yahoo, both<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Coupla folks from major religious groups had a few words for Kamal:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Dr. Bart Barber, pastor of First Baptist Church of Farmersville in East Texas and president of the Southern Baptist Convention, told Fox News Digital that it\u2019s &#8220;sometimes difficult to know what politicians like Harris actually want Christians to do with their faith when it comes to politics.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;If we fail to apply the teachings of our faith to questions like immigration or Herschel Walker\u2019s behavior or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/category\/person\/donald-trump\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Donald Trump\u2019s<\/a> behavior in the way that she thinks we should, we wind up being scolded and encouraged to let our faith shape our moral and political decisions more aggressively,&#8221; Barber said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;But when it comes to questions like abortion, she is willing to offer instruction about how we should divorce our faith from our moral and political decisions. I choose to let the teachings of Jesus instruct me about how to apply my faith. I show respect for our Vice-President by praying for her and by loving her as my neighbor, and I show respect for the fellow human beings waiting for their chance to be born by opposing their slaughter in the abortionist\u2019s chamber.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p>Bishop Robert Barron, bishop of the Diocese of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/category\/us\/us-regions\/midwest\/minnesota\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Winona-Rochester in Minnesota<\/a>, and founder of Word on Fire: Catholic Ministries, told Fox News Digital that abortion is an &#8220;objective evil&#8221; and a &#8220;willful destruction of human life&#8221; that should not be determined by a &#8220;consultative process.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>****<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Perhaps the Vice President was talking about a different faith than the one \u2018that was once for all delivered to the saints,\u2019 as Jude wrote,&#8221; Brent Leatherwood, President for the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/category\/world\/religion\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Southern Baptist Convention<\/a>, told Fox News Digital.<\/p>\n<p>****<\/p>\n<p>Rev. Lawrence R. Rast Jr., president of Concordia Theological Seminary in Fort Wayne, Indiana, and a former Lutheran pastor, told Fox News Digital that the vice president&#8217;s comments &#8220;trivialize the importance of one&#8217;s faith for making difficult decisions.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;She does this by deflecting the issue to the question of whether the government can limit choices for individuals,&#8221; Rast said. &#8220;Within the context of faith, however, this is not a question of government directive, but rather a question of biblical teaching and its implication for personal life choices. The Scriptures clearly teach that life is sacred from conception until natural death. And thus one cannot reconcile the Christian faith with the willful killing of children.&#8221;\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/politics\/christian-leaders-object-vp-harris-claim-dont-have-abandon-faith-support-abortion\">Fox<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Well, after seeing how she entered politics, it is not surprising that she seems to have learned her theology from Willie Brown, too (I&#8217;m not altogether sure that &#8220;Oh God! Oh God!&#8221; counts.)\u00a0 Meanwhile, in her home state Prop 1 is on the ballot, saying:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cThe state shall not deny or interfere with an individual\u2019s reproductive freedom in their most intimate decisions, which includes their fundamental right to choose to have an abortion and their fundamental right to choose or refuse contraceptives.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Note there is no language on , endangerment, viability, late terms, etc. up to the moment of birth. These were deliberately excluded, according to one of its authors:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>When the California legislature debated the proposal, lawmakers asked whether it would allow abortion past viability, when an unborn child can survive outside the womb. A promised answer never came.<\/p>\n<p>Dr. Pratima Gupta, a San Diego obstetrician-gynecologist involved in drafting the law, told the Northern California radio station KQED that drafters deliberately excluded the word \u201cviability.\u201d He said every pregnancy is \u201cindividual\u201d and a \u201ccontinuum.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ncregister.com\/cna\/california-voters-must-reject-no-limit-proposition-1-abortion-amendment-critics-say\">National Catholic Register, both<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Surely no one would ever misuse abortions&#8230;.remember back when Roe v. Wade came in, and they promised abortions would be rare? Me too.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>VP Kamala Harris says Americans of faith do not need to &#8216;abandon their faith&#8217; to support\u00a0 &hellip; <a title=\"VP Harris says you can be religious and support abortion. Faith leaders say &#8220;uh, no&#8221;\" class=\"hm-read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=131969\"><span class=\"screen-reader-text\">VP Harris says you can be religious and support abortion. 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