{"id":10014,"date":"2009-04-23T07:56:09","date_gmt":"2009-04-23T12:56:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/valorguardians.com\/blog\/?p=10014"},"modified":"2009-04-23T10:56:08","modified_gmt":"2009-04-23T15:56:08","slug":"making-sense-of-the-chirouxivaw-theater-of-the-last-few-days","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.azuse.cloud\/?p=10014","title":{"rendered":"Making sense of the Chiroux\/IVAW theater of the last few days"},"content":{"rendered":"

Yeah, I know, I was a little confused yesterday, too. I woke up to the news (in my email) that Matthis Chiroux had been recommended for an general discharge under honorable conditions. I’d talked to LTC Maria Quon the day before and she had told me that was the worst he could receive, so imagine my surprise when I read that he had called it a victory for the Left<\/a>. It was the same discharge he would have gotten if he hadn’t gone to St. Louis and made a buffoon of himself. And dragged his groupies along with him.<\/p>\n

And then, I saw his asshattery on the St Louis local news<\/a> with the upside down flag patch on his sleeve like some spoiled child. I’m pretty sure he didn’t wear it like that for the board or they’d have thrown him irons on the spot. The only thing that’s distressed here is Chiroux.<\/p>\n

So then I spent the rest of the morning talking TSO in from the ledge (his office in on the second floor, but still, he might have landed on a hobo and we wouldn’t have been able to get the smell off before the weekend and the MilBlog convention is like tomorrow). Soon after that, someone sent a copy what Kris Goldsmith wrote on his Facebook page<\/a> about Matthis – the best part of the whole thing is that it jibes with what a former friend of Chiroux told us last month<\/a> – almost letter perfect. Luckily, I was between TSO and the window this time.<\/p>\n

Of course, I emailed some of the folks in IVAW who I know to get their reaction. One of them sent me Camillo’s (one of the VVAW handlers of IVAW) reaction to Goldsmith’s missive;<\/p>\n

Camillo Mac Bica at 2:19pm April 22
\nKris, this is truly overwhelming. Please know that I have always respected you and all you have done for the movement and I don’t question your honesty and motivation in coming out on this. Here is my problem, though, and this is what I worry about. Like it or not, deservedly or not, Matthis has become one of the most visible faces of the movement, the poster boy, if you will. As such, should “right wing bloggers” as you mentioned, get a hold of this, it will be the entire movement that will suffer a set back, a loss of credibility.<\/strong> Now I’m not saying not to let the truth be known, hey let’s air this out and let the chips fall where they may. <\/p>\n

But can we do this in house, wthout giving the Fox fuckers a hey day to the detriment of IVAW and the rest of the peace movement?<\/strong> If I can be of any assistence in resolving this with the least amount of chaos, please let me know. You are an intelligent and honest man, Kris, so I trust your ability to look at the whole picture.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Emphasis is mine. I found it odd that Camillo, was willing to throw Goldsmith, a long time member of IVAW, one of the well-known and arguably one of the most believable testifiers at Winter Soldier right under the proverbial bus and cover up for Matthis Chiroux, the habitual liar and the guy who has never served in combat in either Afghanistan nor Iraq. But, as Camillo explains “Matthis has become one of the most visible faces of the movement, the poster boy<\/em>“. Chiroux has been willing to say anything for anybody – for a price. He’s tall and blond and I guess Camillo finds that more attractive than the truth.<\/p>\n

From what I’ve heard from members of IVAW as well as former members, Mejia is running off anyone from IVAW who won’t toe the International Socialist Organization line, and we’ve already seen Chiroux cozy up to World Can’t Wait<\/a>, that had been established by the Revolutionary Communist Party. So while many IVAW members are a little shy about aligning themselves with folks who have far-Left tendencies, Camillo and Chiroux have no problem with that.<\/p>\n

Here’s a reminder of what Camilo Mejia wrote to Army Sergeant last month about her patriotism and the Constitution;<\/p>\n

What you have before you, Selena, is a typical GI Resistance publication, Vietnam-era style. Many such publications were the work of civilians who were working alongside GIs, which is the case of GI Special. Tom Barton works with members of VFP, IVAW, VVAW, etc and they reprint articles from papers like the Army Times, and from web sites such as our very own.<\/p>\n

Your opinion of this publication is a reflection of just how out of touch you are with the organization you’re in. Have you ever checked out Vets For Freedom? They loooove the constitution, they’re flag waving patriots, and they want troops to reenlist. I bet they would have a similar opinion to yours about GI Special.<\/p>\n

I’m not going to waste too much on this, Selena, but I really think you should explore other organizations that would better meet your desire to be a hard core patriot. IVAW is really not that place.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Yeah, see, if you happen to believe that the Constitution is a good legal guide for our country, Camilo doesn’t think you belong in the IVAW. If you happen to wave a flag right-side-up, you don’t belong in IVAW. Chiroux belongs in IVAW because he’ll prostitute himself – he’ll say and do anything for a price. As long he gets his nose full of cocaine and gets to live in a big expensive apartment in NYC, Chiroux will do anything. Kris Goldsmith reports<\/a> that this pompous arrogance is what’s on Chiroux’ Facebook page this morning;<\/p>\n

\u201cOh the fates are twisted! 8)8) Forgive the liars and the lame of heart. They know not what they do. Oh the splendid peace I feel; it shall not be moved from me. More to follow from Winter Soldier yesterday!\u201d<\/p>\n

Thought you guys might like that, how he\u2019s projecting this bible-speak at all the sheep who can\u2019t see that the crown of thorns on his head is made of compressed feces.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

He’s like Ward Reilly <\/a>(who by the way is recommending that IVAW investigate the charges Goldsmith has made about Chiroux – so that they can sweep it under rug before us wingnuts get a hold of it – too late, Ward). Reilly never went to Vietnam<\/a>, yet he’s a Vietnam Veteran Against the War. Reilly dresses in jungle fatigues and boonie hats<\/a> even though he was stationed in Germany (like Chiroux). And now Reilly is a useless, ghastly-looking old man who has never accomplished anything except fooled a new generation of warriors into thinking Reilly is someone<\/a>. Reilly and Chiroux are nobodies.<\/p>\n

The list of IVAW members who are disillusioned with IVAW’s support for Chiroux is growing, judging by the number of emails I’m getting.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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