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Category: Veterans For Peace/VVAW

  • VFP’s Bill Perry on Gaza

    Bill Perry in Keffiyeh
    Bill Perry in Keffiyeh

    Recognize the pudgy little shit in keffiyeh? It’s Veterans For Peace chief coward Bill Perry who I wrote about last month. He was involved in the protest against Israel last week in Philadelphia. I guess he did such a bang-up job of getting the US troops pulled out of Iraq, he figures he can contribute his considerable weight to the effort to get Israeli troops withdrawn from Gaza. He was so full of himself after participating in this protest, he penned a long letter to the Veterans For Peace National Office to urge them to action against Israel. But those dirty Zionists keep getting in his way;

    Zionist Embeds have totally confused our “low information” VFP members by pointing to MLK & Gandhi, and by saying that the Palestinians should submit to total humiliation and degradation, and be glad that their lives and families are trashed by the Zionists, as they prevent the Gaza export taxes, medications, medical supplies, cooking oil, and food from International sources to get past the Israeli “Check Points”. Then saying VFP should maintain MLK / Gandhi ideals, and DO NOTHING about Israeli bloodthirsty THEFT & MURDER.

    Zionist “sanctions” kill almost as many as their American Missiles, Rockets, and Bombs kill !

    Hell, IMHO, VFP Zionist embeds with tortuous legal arguments are also WAR CRIMINALS. Why are they so powerful, in VFP circles? Do we REALLY need their contributions that bad?

    Dirty, stinkin’ Zionists are everywhere, ain’t they, Bill? Ya’all should find a final solution to cleanse the VFP of those stinkin’ Zionists. Do you know who you sound like, Bill?

  • Jesse MacBeth trashes IVAW [Jonn]

    Jesse MacBeth, the poster child of the phony soldier movement, and I find common ground. I’ll admit I know what MacBeth says in this video isn’t completely true, because it’s Jesse MacBeth, for Pete’s sake.

    However, he admits that IVAW had his DD214 and they helped him forge the DD214 he tried to pass off as proof of his combat experience. For those of you who haven’t seen his real DD214, here it is, courtesy of our friends at POW Network;

    I’ve always wondered about the DD214 forgery because MacBeth probably doesn’t have the brains to forge his DD214. But he also calls into question the character of service and the narratives coming from IVAW members.

    He also says “higher ups” helped him perpetrate his fraud on themedia. He doesn’t name the “higher ups”, but at the time he inflicted himself on the stage, that could only mean the Veterans For Peace and VVAW clowns who were running the organization behind the scenes.

    Now, MacBeth also claims that some IVAW members were discussing bombings. I don’t believe that at all – unless he wants to give us names, dates and places of these discussions.

    Well, here’s the video on YouTube he apparently made just last week;

    Like I said, you can’t believe MacBeth completely, he’s an habitual liar. However, he makes some of the same points I have proven on this blog. It’ll probably be quite some time before we get disillusioned IVAW former-members coming out publicly, so this all we’ve got for now.

    Thanks to Skye at Flopping Aces and The Paratrooper of Love, Blackfive for the links.

    ADDED: There’s another video I didn’t think was important the first time, but since MacBeth still draws a crowd here it is;

    And, for extra entertainment, TSO’s comments that MacBeth deleted at the YouTube link;

    He’s starting to monitor comments, but I got a few good ones in there

    jessemacbeth (8 minutes ago) Reply
    i suspect ur another ivaw idiot who dont like being exposed breing all your ivaw buddies here let them see the video and the others i am making exposing what frauds you all are

    e5infantry (12 minutes ago) 0 Reply | Spam
    OMFG, this gets better by the second! You tried to kill yourself with aspirin?

    Same shit with me, only I tried to kill myself with Preparation H and Flintstones vitamins.

    e5infantry (13 minutes ago) 0 Reply | Spam
    Dude, this is the greatest video eveh. You are such a dipshit it is astonishing. You had me at “crusted blood”. You show ’em RoughRider!

    e5infantry (16 minutes ago) 0 Reply | Spam
    I suspect you may be going back to jail, if I am not mistaken, your eyebrows are actually a protected species of caterpiller. Which makes sense since apparently gypsy moths have been feasting on your brains for years.

    He goes on to tell Army Sergeant that he’s got a book deal in the works and that he’s going to spill the beans on IVAW in a big expose`. It reminds me of a nerd slap-fight.

  • Lincoln Brigade; roots of Vets For Peace [Jonn]

    Someone emailed me a job offer from Veterans For Peace. In the listing, the group mentioned that “its membership comprises more than 7,000 members, including veterans from the Spanish Civil War to the Iraq War, who seek to raise public awareness of the true costs and consequences of militarism and war.”

    Well, last year I’d read Hemmingway’s “For Whom The Bell Tolls” about an American in the Spanish Republican Army fighting the facists in Spain and I remembered how I had to wade through the Stalinist propaganda in the story which was an excellent read otherwise.

    So I started doing some research on the war and the relationship to the communists. It turns out that the major recruiting efforts for the columns of the Republicans’ foreign fighters was conducted under Stalin’s Communist International (Comintern) Bureau. Most of the funding for the Republicans came from Stalin. OK, well, for a staunch anti-fascist I guess that wouldn’t matter, as long as they had the opportunity to fight Franco who was funded by Hitler and Mussolini. And in 1936-1938 one side was as bad the other, I suppose, if you look at it from an American perspective in the context of it’s own time – not knowing that the Holocaust was coming, or that Katyn Forest massacre and the Great Purge was a few years away.

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  • The shoe toss saga continues (Updated w/videos)

    Videos below the fold

    Today Code Pink took their shoe-toss road show to the Iraqi Consulate on P Street, in Washington DC to “demand” the release of Muntadhar Al-Zeidi, the journalist who threw his shoe at George Bush a few weeks ago. Code Pink has grasped this thing around the throat like grim death and refuses to let it go. The clowns were demanding that Muntadhar Al-Zeidi be compensated. I guess we should buy him some better shoes and pay for lessons so he won’t throw little a little girl any more.

    Needless to say, just like the protest TSO covered the other week, attendance was poor, even by the media;
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  • IVAW/VVAW links: Camil part II [Jonn]

    1stCavRVN11B found some information on Scott Camil, the former VVAW member now advising the IVAW who I wrote about yesterday. He sent me a .pdf of an article from the April 2, 1975 New York Times “US Agents shoot anti-war figure” describing the events. Apparently, Camile was in the business of selling cocaine to DEA agents in 1975, with a side business of resisting arrest;

    I have the whole article and I’ll email it to anyone who wants a copy of it for posterity.  So Scott “The Assassin” Camil is just another in a long line of sociopaths who find their way into the anti-war movement. And another clown influencing the IVAW.

  • VVAW/IVAW links: Bill Perry [Jonn]

    This is Bill Perry of the old VVAW. Here’s a picture I took of him with Elvis Kokesh at the Ron Paul march last August carrying an upside down flag – that’s him, the sea cow-shaped guy, in the Black Vets For Peace T-shirt on your left;

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    Here’s a picture of him in the VVAW T-shirt horning in on a photo of me and Army Sergeant shaking hands at the Winter Soldiers Congressional hearing back in April(I didn’t find out who he was until after I wrote the post and posted the picture);

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    Here he is planting a wet one on Elvis Kokesh last month in Nassau County when the charges against the IVAW arrestees were dropped.

    Here’s Bill Perry with VoteVets co-founder and chairman Jon Soltz along with some IVAW members:

    So who is Bill Perry, you might be asking. Well, he’s one of the original VVAW members and he testified at the first Winter Soldier hearings in 1971 (you know, with such luminaries as phony soldier Al Hubbard and John Kerry). He testified to his own misconduct which, if it happened, cost the lives of his own platoon as well as some innocent Vietnamese villagers;

    Bill Perry, 23, Pfc. (E-3), “A” Co., 1/506, 101st Airborne Division (November 1966 to August 1968)

    PERRY: I served in Vietnam from ’67 to ’68. I wouldn’t like to go too far into the horror stories you’ve been hearing about the last few days, but I would like to relate a few incidents. On March 5, 1968, in the province of Phuc Long, village of Song Be, a platoon of us, twenty-nine of us, were on a search and destroy mission. A few of us, who were considered expendable, were told to walk point.

    As we came up out of a bamboo thicket into a clearing, a woman with whom I and one of the other two people had previously had what you might call business transactions with concerning marijuana, informed us of an imminent ambush on the part of the local forces. Myself and two others ran into her home with her. We weren’t sure whether she was _____ us or what, but we were scared so we ran into her home. The rest of the platoon came up out of the valley into the clearing and was ambushed. We were isolated pretty well from the rest of the platoon while they were getting shot up. And when an NCO came up to look into the house where we were kind of looking out the door with the woman, the NCO automatically figured that we must be VC prisoners and he shot her up. She had a very young child inside her bomb shelter. Every Vietnamese home has to have a bomb shelter. The ambush actually lasted about two or three minutes, and the platoon got pretty well shot up. For about five hours they called in artillery and air strikes and pretty well demolished the town of Song Be. Finally when enough reinforcements came, they went out to sweep the area. They decided to throw fragmentation, or white phosphorus grenades, inside of each bunker regardless of what was going down in any bunker. We tried to stop them from fragging other bunkers where we could hear screams or moans or whatever, but they were really into it.

    There was another incident in mid-July 1968 in the vicinity of Nui Ba Den where we had been in about two days of steady combat. We had found a lot of bodies, some killed by air strikes and some killed by small arms fire. And the military fear, you know, came through once again in their mutilation of bodies. They were very much into cutting patches and numbers on dead bodies in this particular incident. I could go on with more horror stories, but like we all know what happens. You can hear it from the other GIs and when the rest of the people on the panel finish, I’d like to go into a little of what causes people to act this way, why people act this way, and what we can do to combat people acting this way. Thank you.

    Being a chickenshit coward, Perry hid in a mamasan’s hut without warning his platoon about the ambush (kind of the job of the point team). If he had done his job and warned the platoon, maybe the wanton killing of everything that moved in the area wouldn’t have happened. Then Perry went on to tell the tale of infiltrating Cambodia, apparently just for the sake of infiltrating Cambodia.

    MODERATOR: Perry, before we go on to the next one, you mentioned something before about an order received by the higher up and crossing across the national borders. Could you mention something on that?

    PERRY: It was very well known that we were within two klicks of Cambodia which is about a mile and two-tenths. Very often we went on search and destroy missions directly west as far as 8-10 klicks and back. We were definitely going into Cambodia.

    MODERATOR: Did you ever make contact in Cambodia? Did you ever make contact when you crossed the border?

    PERRY: No, I didn’t.

    So what was the point of that? There were no incidents in Cambodia so there’d be no reports of operations in Cambodia. Remember this was 1972 – one of the popular charges to make against the Nixon Administration that year was that they’d illegally extended military operations in to Cambodia. According to Perry’s service claims, he was out of the Army before Nixon was even elected.

    The end result of all the Winter Soldier in 1971 testimony according to Scott Swett;

    The Army’s Criminal Investigative Division (CID) had opened cases for 43 WSI “witnesses” whose claims, if true, would qualify as crimes. An additional 25 Army WSI participants had criticized the military in general terms, without sufficient substance to warrant any investigation.

    The 43 WSI CID cases were eventually resolved as follows: 25 WSI participants refused to cooperate, 13 provided information but failed to support the allegations, and five could not be located. No criminal charges were filed as a result of any of the investigations.

    So Perry’s story was pretty much bullshit. Again, these are the people behind IVAW.

  • VVAW/IVAW links: Scott Camil [Jonn]

    This is probably one of the most symbolic pictures of the relationship between the Iraq Veterans Against the War and the old Vietnam veterans Against the War – Scott Camil and Clifton Hicks in bed together;

    Here’s a video I found of Camil at the Winter Soldier II hearings;

    Clifton Hicks was one of the IVAW members who testified at the Winter Soldier hearings in Silver Spring, MD  I dealt with his narrative over a year ago. But some of you might not know or remember Scott Camil from the VVAW. Camil was one of the Gainsville Eight who skated on a conspiracy charge after the 1972 Republican National Convention in Miami when the FBI pre-emptively stopped the VVAW from attacking public safety elements of Miami and Miami Beach. From a Time Magazine article at the time;

    “Fire teams” using crossbows, wrist-rocket sling shots, automatic weapons and homemade grenades would roam the streets of Miami attacking police, knocking out electric transformers, and firebombing stores. According to FBI Informer William Lemmer, those bizarre, bloody plans to disrupt the Republican National Convention last year were hatched by a group of Viet Nam Veterans Against the War. Lemmer says he attended a secret meeting in May 1972 in a Gainesville, Fla., attic, where plans for the disruption were discussed and the plotters demonstrated the use of crossbows, carbines and explosives.

    Lemmer’s story was a major factor in the arrest of six members of the V.V.A.W. in July 1972 on charges of conspiring and crossing state lines to incite a riot (subsequently, another vet and a civilian ally were also charged).

    They got away with it because they didn’t actually do it, thanks to the FBI. But that’s not all about Scott Camil. He was known as Scott the Assassin because of his proposal to murder pro-war Congressmen and Senators. From the book, Unfit for Command;

    Known as Scott the Assassin, Camil was a firebrand within the VVAW ranks. He advocated the creation of VVAW assassination squads who could emulate the CIA Phoenix Program in Vietnam. The idea, as proposed by Camil, was that the VVAW assassination squads would kill politicians who opposed ending the war, beginning with prominent senators.

    From a 2004 Sun Times article;

    Another source is an October 20,1992, oral history interview of Scott Camil on file at the University of Florida Oral History Archive. In it, Mr. Camil speaks of his plan for an alternative to Mr. Kerry’s idea of symbolically throwing veterans’ medals over the fence onto the steps of the Capitol during the Dewey Canyon III demonstration in Washington in April of 1971.

    “My plan was that, on the last day we would go into the [congressional] offices we would schedule the most hardcore hawks for last ­ and we would shoot them all,” Mr. Camil told the Oral History interviewer. “I was serious.”

    These are the people behind the IVAW.

  • Medea, Millard and Uranus [by TSO]

    On 13 March 1781, Sir William Herschel announced to the world that he had discovered the heretofore unknown seventh planet in our Solar System.  Now, all of the planets up to this point were named after Roman deities.  This was not an idea which much appealed to Mr. Herschel who believed that such a discovery should be tied with the current King of England.  Thus, he decreed, the plant should be named “George.”

    Now, this would have ruined school children everywhere who would have been required in their yut to memorize the sentence “My Very Excellent Mother Just Served Geraldo Seven Pizzas” which doesn’t quite role off the tongue.  Luckily for 3rd graders and bloggers with a sophomoric sense of humor everywhere, the planet was instead named “Uranus” which my science has proven produces snickers like no other planet name EVER.  Unless planet X should be named “Booger.”

    Nonetheless, I tell this story because it segues nicely with the Jovian sized asshattery I just witnessed down at the White House.  Deciding to scrap a bad idea (George) with a potentially even stupider one (Uranus) always makes me melancholy about Code Pink.  But fear not, intrepid astronomer, because Code Pink has come through again.

    Here’s the short story:

    Peace Activists Take Shoes to White House in Solidarity with Shoe-Throwing Iraqi Journalist
    Call for his release and tribute to Iraqis who have suffered under US occupation

    WHAT: Peace activists to gather with shoes in solidarity to Iraqi journalist
    WHEN: 11 a.m., Weds. Dec. 17
    WHERE:  In front of White House, 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

    And what release would be complete without a quote from a phony CIB wearing PowerPoint Slide Clicker:

    “Having one shoe thrown at George Bush pales in comparison to the suffering that veterans and Iraqis go through everyday,” says Geoffrey Milliard of Iraq Veterans Against the War. “Perhaps if Bush can see some more of these shoes before he leaves office, he will feel some of our pain.”

    So, I braved the elements with my intrepid photographer, and down Ye Olde Whyte House.  Here are some pics, and here you are kids.

    You remember Geoff Millard from Jonn’s post the other day;

    A giant Bush decapitated head – BDS reigns supreme;

    And this guy was in another of Jonn’s posts last month; Jim Goodnow who defended the Impeachment Bus from a gang of wingnut facists (in his dreams);

    The press out numbered the protesters by about 3:1.

    I spoke with this young lady briefly.  She is from a Russian news station, and she is in quite a quandary.  She wants to come to the inauguration, but she has been unable to secure a place to stay.  I don’t want to give out her name, but if you know of anywhere, just email her at youmustbekiddingme@hotchicks.com

    She likes conservative men, bubble baths, frolicking naked, and drinking profligate amounts of alcohol.  Sometimes when she gets really drunk she likes to give massages, make out with other girls, and make samwiches.  If you can find it in your heart to help her out, won’t you please email now?  Because if not you, then who?  If not now, then when?