This ain't Hell, but you can see it from here

Category: Protests/Rallies

  • More martyrs for the cause

    So this link has been came up on my Facebook feed. Seems that the Occupy are willing to martyr anybody if it will bring publicity to the Occupy Movement. The newest one involves a nineteen year oldprotester that lost her baby during a protest.

    “I was standing in the middle of the crowd when the police started moving in,” she says. “I was screaming, ‘I am pregnant, I am pregnant. Let me through. I am trying to get out.’” At that point, Fox continues, a Seattle police officer lifted his foot and it hit her in the stomach, and another officer pushed his bicycle into the crowd, again hitting Fox in the stomach. “Right before I turned, both cops lifted their pepper spray and sprayed me. My eyes puffed up and my eyes swelled shut,” she says.

    Oh sounds very odd to begin with but continuing into her statements.

    When she arrived at Harborview at 11:00 a.m., she says, a doctor told her that “there was no heartbeat” from the baby. “They diagnosed that I was having a miscarriage. They said the damage was from the kick and that the pepper spray got to it [the fetus], too.”

    Now it is getting weird. I get that a kick to the abdomen can terminate a pregnancy. But the Pepper Spray having that much of a effect in a pregnancy? Something seems off. I am not the only one to thing so.

    Fox has declined to provide medical records supporting her claim that she had a miscarriage five days after being hit, and her family has cast doubt on the claim.

    But Seattle police have launched an internal investigation because of the “seriousness of her allegations,” spokesman Mark Jamieson said.

    “Their goal is to find any — any — info that supports her claims,” he said. “You have to take her word.”

    In an interview Tuesday at the Occupy Seattle encampment on Capitol Hill, Fox said she had three ultrasound pictures of her fetus in her tent, but declined to show them to reporters.

    She also said she did not plan to pick up medical records at Harborview Medical Center that could document the miscarriage until after a planned memorial service Saturday, and she declined to sign a waiver allowing reporters to obtain the documents independently. She said the baby was a girl, to be named Miracle.

    Also I this little quote caught my attention.

    Fox has conducted several interviews with local and national media, and said she plans to consult an attorney.

    She said she learned the sex of her fetus about 10 weeks into her pregnancy via an ultrasound test, although gender typically is not detected via ultrasound until the 16th week of pregnancy, according to a medical journal. Fox said the baby’s father is in jail.

    Kinda puts more questions into this. Also there are claims that she is the same person that we talked about here. Stay tuned, this one is just getting started.

    UPDATE: Here is a police report that was made in September that shows that she was three months along at the time.

  • More fun from Occupy Wall Street.

    Lets see, it seems that the OWS managed to to get a retired police chief to decry the New York Police department. The same person that was arrested at a Occupy protest in New York. Oh and if you have to ask he was from Philadelphia. I figure that he is part of the police equivalent of the IVAW.

    I think that these people need to be reminded about Appeal to Authority fallacy.

  • The reality of the Occupy movement.

    The video is self explanatory.

  • National Lawyers Guild trying to keep OWS going.

    It seems that despite past concerns about health risks from camping/squatting in Zuccotti Park the National Lawyers Guild is trying allow people to return with their tents after the the clean up is complete.

    The National Lawyers Guild says it has obtained a court order that allows Occupy Wall St. protesters to return with tents to a New York City park.

    The guild says the injunction prevents the city from enforcing park rules on Occupy Wall Street protesters.

    Mayor Michael Bloomberg says the city knew about the court order but has not seen it. He says the city plans to go court immediately.

  • Portugal Has an Army

    And they are pissed!
    Portugal’s soldiers hold rare protest against cuts

    At the army protest, there was anger at government proposals to decimate armed forces numbers and cut back wages and promotions.

    Antonio Lima Coelho, one of the organisers, said servicemen and women were willing to make their share of sacrifices, but the government was taking a big risk in rushing through measures that were not properly thought through.

    “A military institution is organised in a pyramid way. If we start stopping this pyramid to be well formed, we will endanger discipline, cohesion and the mission of the armed forces,” he said.

    The military has a special place in society – and in Portuguese hearts.

    In 1974, a group of officers ended decades of dictatorship with a coup that ushered in democracy.

    But the military gradually withdrew from politics.

    So, many people were taken aback when one of the leading conspirators of 1974 said in a recent interview that another coup would be in order if the government went too far in curbing the military’s rights.

    Kinda fascinating. There are some parallels with what DC seems to be proposing for our military, of course, but I ain’t gonna push any comparisons too far.

    Frankly, I’ve never fully understood why the whole Euro-Zone business left standing national armies anyway, but that is for another discussion.

    I suspect the scenes with Portugal and their military will be playing out in several other countries across the Atlantic as more counties try to find ways to protect their heavy socialist agendas. Time will tell, but they do have a lively track record.

  • The single dumbest thing I have read in a long time.

    Here is another article about the Occupy movement and how the IVAW are taking part. It is titled “At Occupy Camps, Veterans Bring the Wars Home” It gets to the crazy in short order.

    In Zuccotti Park, Army Specialist Jerry Bordeleau, 24, was sitting next to a table of IWW (Industrial Workers of the World) literature. On his sweater were two buttons: an Iraq Campaign metal and one from the IWW. He served two tours in Iraq and now says he’s unemployed and can’t find work for over $10 an hour. And he can’t live on $10 an hour. When I asked him why he’s at Occupy Wall Street he says, “I went and fought for capitalism and that’s why I’m now a Marxist.”

    At Occupy Baltimore, I met 21-year-old Justin Carson, who tells me he served in the Army National Guard in Iraq from 2009 until this February. His nickname is Crazy Craze. He says he has PTSD and is bipolar but won’t “do pharmaceuticals.” Then he told me I should look into the Illuminati since I’m writing an article.

    I had to double check to make sure that I am not reading the onion. Because for a movement that is desperate not to be linked to socialism or communism that Jerry Bordeleau’s comments are exact opposite of this. Not to mention that Justin Carson’s comments are very damaging to the image of veterans today. It is bad enough that Veterans are fighting against the craze war vet meme of old, but worse when people are actively trying to bring it back. This is how you want to open your story?

    At Occupy DC, a painting of Scott Olsen in uniform is draped on the side of a tent. He’s become a symbol of the Occupation Movement — he fought overseas only to be injured when exercising his “freedom” of peaceful assembly at home. His name has become a shorthand to talk about why so many vets are at Occupy Wall Street.

    Ok that is creepy, I thought the picture of him in a stain glass artwork was bad enough but this is just weird. Also considering how he spoke out against the Marine Corps image, but the people have no problem doing for his uniform that he was never suppose to wear in the first place. Also I thought that he had a non-combat MOS. If so how much “fighing” did he really do? Moving on.

    Patterson still sports a military haircut and a bit of the Army swagger. He also has a touch of that telling hyper-awareness war vets sometimes display; he’s a little twitchy, a little intense. He tells me he has PTSD and has been self-medicating with weed. He says it helps. What’s also helped is being a part of this protest movement. “This is the only peaceful solution,” he says. “If this movement doesn’t work, our country is not going to make it … We’re just not going to make it.”

    Great, so your third Vet is a self medicating with illegal drugs. Still trying to push the “Crazy War Vet” meme. Also I promise you that the Country will carry on without your movement.

    Patterson became an interrogator in Iraq straight out of high school. His mother had to sign his enlistment papers. He turned 18 in Basic. “We’re an industrialized nation who’s a third world country. The super wealthy elite pretty much control our democratic process and everyone here is pretty much fighting for scraps and that’s not right,” he says.

    What? Are you kidding? I promise you people who live in real third world nations would jump at the change to live here. Because I promise you that there is a drastic difference between the two.

    I ask him what was the switch for him and when. He explained that it was WikiLeaks. It was the footage of the Apache helicopter gunning down Iraqis released by WikiLeaks in April of 2010.

    This is a dead horse that Doc Bailey has handled nicely. I am sure that he can rehash all the fallacies in anything that follows the statement above.

    He interrogated people who were later put to death in Iraq with no appeals process, he says. It haunts him. He didn’t fulfill his contract so he’s not eligible for the GI Bill. Even if he were, he explains, he still couldn’t afford to go to school without loans. He’d be wracked with debt just like so many other students who are down at their city’s Occupations. “I just want to go to college and teach high school,” he says

    Then stop taking about it and go do it. I hate to break this to you but sooner or later your going to have to take out a loan. Be it for school, house, or car. Also call BS on his Iraq interrogations as well.

    I say again, with this listed above is it any shock that most Veterans do not associate themselves with the occupy movement?

  • Just a reminder

    That is this the person that IVAW is going to champion during this years Veterans day. So I am sure once that his statements have been made public that they will be flooded over the net. So I figured I get a head start now.

    UPDATE: Looks like the press is finally looking his past from his website to his being chaptered out.

    Olsen served two tours in Iraq, working as a technician and earning a handful of service medals.

    Friends say he soured on military life after leaving the service started a now-defunct website called “I hate the Marine Corps” that served as a forum for disgruntled servicemen.

    Olsen received an “administrative discharge” from the service in late 2009, his uncle George Nygaard has said, though the precise reasons for it have not been confirmed.

    Such a discharge can result from any number of behavioral or disciplinary issues.

    Which would lend support that he was kicked out for drug use.

  • Done With The Silly for Today.

    Got slammed back, and rightfully so.

    NY, Washington protesters brave rare early snow

    NEW YORK — Anti-Wall Street protesters hunkered down at encampments in New York and Washington Saturday as they faced their first winter weather test, with a rare early snowstorm hitting the US east coast.

    “Snow, what snow? I’ve got a country to worry about,” read a sign at New York’s Zuccotti Park held by a girl as snow and sleet pelted downtown Manhattan, where demonstrators have gathered to protest and call for financial reform since September 17.

    Don Surber again swings the reality hammer.

    Brave? No, the 99 twerps are camping out. The heroes and heroines in Afghanistan are the ones who are braving the snow — and the bombs — and the cold — and the loneliness.

    I never forget those serving, but Don’s juxtaposition does shift the focus where it is needed well.

    Disgust is not quite strong enough.