Category: Oath Keepers

  • Kokesh and Rand Paul – BFFs

    TSO phoned me from the road yesterday about a Rand Paul/Adam Kokesh video. I hope I found the right one, because it appears that there are several on Youtube. This one is from last summer and filmed in Kentucky;

    It’s funny, but I agree with everything they said – but it’s what they don’t say that makes them dangerous. Like in other clips where Kokesh mentions “humble foreign policy”. Yeah, that sounds like what we need right now, what with Chavez building up his military for a confrontation to our south and negotiating away oil to China. With North Korea expected to build a missile that can reach the US by the end of next year. With Iran threatening the Middle East and Europe. Russia trying to rebuild the old Soviet Union. Yeah, let’s be humble.

    I wonder if Rand knows he’s discussing gun rights with a convicted arms smuggler (sorry, a little Gordon Duff-style hyperbole there).

    Too Kooky for Kentucky finds white supremacists supporting Rand Paul just like they supported his father. Here’s another Kokesh for Congress video edited by Josh Paul. I can’t find any familial ties to Ron Paul, but it’s a bit coincidental.

    I think it’s hilarious that Kokesh avoids talking about IVAW these days. There’s a reporter for Stars and Stripes who did an interview with me and Army Sergeant last summer about the IVAW who is holding up publishing the interview until he can interview Kokesh who won’t return the reporter’s call. Kokesh now likes to call himself an “Iraq War veteran” instead of an IVAW member these days. I guess the need for xanax and gin has worn off.

  • Conflicted

    Claymore sent us this link from the Las Vegas Review Journal which profiles the Oath Keepers;

    Launched in March by Las Vegan Stewart Rhodes, Oath Keepers bills itself as a nonpartisan group of current and retired law enforcement and military personnel who vow to fulfill their oaths to the Constitution.

    More specifically, the group’s members, which number in the thousands, pledge to disobey orders they deem unlawful, including directives to disarm the American people and to blockade American cities. By refusing the latter order, the Oath Keepers hope to prevent cities from becoming “giant concentration camps,” a scenario the 44-year-old Rhodes says he can envision happening in the coming years.

    It’s a Cold War-era nightmare vision with a major twist: The occupying forces in this imagined future are American, not Soviet.

    “The whole point of Oath Keepers is to stop a dictatorship from ever happening here,” Rhodes, a former Army paratrooper and Yale-trained lawyer, said in an interview with the Review-Journal. “My focus is on the guys with the guns, because they can’t do it without them.

    I guess this is just Rhodes’ way of justifying the Department of Homeland Security’s report about right wing terrorists. My personal conflict is that the only person the Review Journal could find to comment against Oath Keepers is my old friend Mark Potok, of the Southern Poverty Law Center, who happens to see hate groups around every corner;

    “I’m not accusing Stewart Rhodes or any member of his group of being Timothy McVeigh or a future Timothy McVeigh,” law center spokesman Mark Potok said. “But these kinds of conspiracy theories are what drive a small number of people to criminal violence. … What’s troubling about Oath Keepers is the idea that men and women armed and ordered to protect the public in this country are clearly being drawn into a world of false conspiracy theory.”

    Yeah, whenever Potok says “I’m not accusing…” that’s exactly what he’s doing. Why else would he be writing in a column he calls “Hate Watch”? Stuart Rhodes is a former Ron Paul staffer, and we saw how quickly the Ron Paul movement petered out last year. They became an annoyance, but they’re certainly not dangerous – unless Stuart Rhodes doesn’t tone down the rhetoric.

    On the other hand, SPLC, in perpetual search of hate groups doesn’t do the discourse any favors by amping up the hate talk.

    According to the law center, militia groups are re-emerging in this country partly as a result of racial animosity toward Obama.

    It’s the “cross-pollinating” of extremist groups — some racist, some not — that is of concern, Potok said. As evidence that the danger is real, he points to several recent murders committed by men with anti-government or racist views.

    The U.S. Department of Homeland Security reached a similar conclusion in a report earlier this year about the rise of right-wing extremism. The report said the nation’s economic downturn and Obama’s race are “unique drivers for right-wing radicalization and recruitment.”

    The homeland security report added that “disgruntled military veterans” might be vulnerable to recruitment by right-wing extremist groups.

    That warning was enough to make Rhodes feel paranoid.

    It would have been nice of the Review Journal to mention that the DHS report leaned heavily on the SPLC’s own “research”. So quoting the DHS report is the same as quoting Mark Potok – and includes his intellectually-vacant rhetoric.

    So you see how I’m conflicted – two organizations who are equally distasteful engaged in equally harmful verbal warfare. I don’t know for whom to root – I guess the best I can hope for is mutual annihilation.

  • Oath Keepers remove IVAW “testimony”

    The other day I linked to “testimony” of an IVAW member by the name of Eric T Orseske at the Oath Keepers website. Some of you went over there and engaged the Oath Keepers and called them on their hypocrisy in a battle that lasted for over 50 comments. Founder Stuart Rhodes defended his decision to leave the young man’s testimony on the website by using the words of Ron Paul who endorsed Adam Kokesh’s Congressional candidacy;

    Adam Kokesh has been a tremendous supporter – of both me AND you! As a leader of Iraq Veterans Against the War, Adam has spent years traveling the country to spread our message of peace, a strong national defense and limited government. Adam has tremendous credibility because of his service in the United States Marine Corps and I have deep respect for his commitment to principle.

    Of course, using Ron Paul to quell dissent in their ranks only tells you the level of discourse at Oath Keepers.

    Well, finally, Rhodes and “the board” has capitulated and removed that particular testimony. During the discussion, Oath Keepers used phrases like “is our great nation afraid of a few communists?” Well, apparently Oath Keepers are afraid of a few communists;

    IVAW in particular has direct connections with some radical left collectivist individuals and organizations, who would scrap this Republic in a heartbeat if they could, to replace it with their own collectivist vision. Such collectivism is incompatible with Oath Keepers, an organization dedicated to the preservation of this Republic. As Oath Keeper Vietnam Vet Lew Waters said: “IF someone shows and acknowledges a propensity to support the very views we are swearing to stand up against and openly admits to obeying those who would impose the very programs we say we will oppose, are we not leaving our flanks exposed?”

    Those were the arguments you and I were making through out the discussion. Thanks to all of you who participated in the removal of this IVAW garbage from the internet. As long as IVAW refuses to silence the subversive voices in their ranks, we’ll be there to silence it for them.

  • Oath Keepers and IVAW

    I’ve been receiving emails over the last few months about Oath Keepers and my initial impressions of the organization were good. I mean, I’m all for military and law enforcement officers pledging to keep their respective oaths. And the Southern Poverty Law Center is scared by them, so that’s always good.

    A week or so ago, one of my RSS feeds took me to an article on Oathkeepers’ website that was written by Eric T Orseske, an IVAW member. At the time, I let it slide to see what Oath Keepers would do about it – within a few days, the post came down. Well, the same post popped up again today;

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    Well, i just think it’s odd that Oath Keepers would associate itself with someone blatantly opposed to oaths. The IVAW has recently, at least at Fort Hood, encouraged soldiers to break their oath to serve. The IVAW won’t even vote to boot members who encourage violence against our troops.

    So what about the IVAW lends itself to cooperation with an otherwise commendable organization like Oath Keepers?