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Category: Antiwar crowd

  • A name change – that’s the ticket!

    Suppose your organization was irrelevant and no one is paying attention to your message which is becoming less and less germane to your particular conversation, what’s the best way to make everyone pay attention again? Change the name? Well, that’s Victor Agosto’s idea. TJ Buonomo says the new name needs an adjustment;

    I told you that TJ was the smart one. Since a large number of IVAW haven’t served in either Iraq or Afghanistan, TJ’s idea has merit. Beth Roxby agrees;

    I SUPPORT limiting membership [of Iraq Veterans Against the War] to veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan. I know that’s an unpopular idea right now, but I don’t really care. I think the liberal membership policy has possibly caused more problems, both for member retention and media credibility, than any other single factor. And granted, IVAW is currently facing a lot of dividing factors.

    We already have an anti-war organization that welcomes all veterans, and that’s Veterans for Peace. They’re big-umbrella

    Big umbrella – that means everyone who doesn’t have enough credibility to speak to combat veterans’ issues. Including TJ who barely finished MIOBC when he got out of the Army. If they narrowed membership to veterans who’ve actually been to the war, most of the Board would be gone as well as most of the membership.

    So what do you guys want…a credible organization, or larger membership? I think they’ve already made up their mind – after all, dollars are more important than credibility.

  • Think of the Children/Afghanistan version.

    It seems that Rethink Afghanistan is claiming that it has a exclusive story that prove that NATO forces were responsible 50 civilian deaths to include women and children. But given that the first images of the area are from Al Jazeera is enough to give pause considering their past actions. DC wrote a post about it that talks about it in more detail.

    The video goes into several interviews from people that claim that say what exactly happened/ But considering what the Taliban does to people that oppose them I find that these are suspect. Like the video of Al Jazeera recording the Taliban arresting people who voted in the 2009 Afghanistan election. In this case the fate of the people is not good. Also considering the Taliban is threatening to behead anyone who it considers a “informer”

    The Taliban in Afghanistan has threatened to behead informers who have been revealed following the explosive disclosure by WikiLeaks. WikiLeaks has put out over 90,000 uncensored intelligence documents, causing a security scare.

    So is this still a victimless crime now?

  • Code Pink Protest at Quantico for Manning

    Several of you have sent me notification of Code Pink’s planned protest Sunday noon at Quantico Marine base where Bradley Manning, the Wikileaks, butt-bandit is currently incarcerated. Code Pink and the Left are all calling Manning a “whistleblower”. Although the second half of that phrase might be accurate, I’m pretty sure that it wasn’t a whistle. In the current usage of the word, I guess the Rosenbergs and Alger Hiss were whistleblowers, too. So was Benedict Arnold, I suppose.

    Anyway, for those of you who plan to be in the Metro DC area, there’s a counter-protest being sponsored by Free Republic;

    All patriots are urged to stand up for the Marine Corps and the United States this Sunday, August 8, 2010, from mid-morning to as long as needed as the terrorist support group Code Pink descends on the Quantico Marine Corps Base in Virginia to give aid and comfort to accused Wikileaks traitor Bradley Manning. From the Code Pink website: CODEPINK, Veterans for Peace, Courage to Resist and others will be holding a rally at Quantico Base to support whistleblower Bradley Manning. We will be delivering Bradley Manning letters of support to the base. To submit a letter to be delivered please email it to medea@globalexchange.org and we’ll print it out and hand deliver. If you live in the DC area please join us at the rally. When: Sunday, August 8, noon Where: Quantico Marine Corps Base, VA where Manning is being held in pre-trial confinement Private First Class Bradley Manning, a 22-year-old intelligence analyst stationed in Iraq, stands accused of disclosing a classified video depicting American troops in Iraq shooting civilians from an Apache helicopter in 2007. Eleven people were killed, including two Reuters employees, and two children were critically injured. No charges have been filed against the soldiers who did the killing. News sources have also speculated about Manning’s involvement in the leak of over 90,000 secret documents (collectively known as the Afghanistan “war logs”) made public by WikiLeaks on July 25. RSVP to tell us your coming at medea@globalexchange.org / 415.235.6517 (carpool available). Thank you for turning this leak into a tsunami of anti-war pressure, Bonnie, Dana, Farida, Gael, Gayle, Joan, Jodie, Medea, Nancy, Rae,Victoria and Valerie

    The ‘Jodie’ in the list above is Jodie Evans. She funded Barack Obama’s presidential campaign and works with his administration to undermine Obama’s official war policies. Jodie Evans and Code Pink also work with terrorists and state sponsors of terrorism against the United States. Jodie Evans and Code Pink also act as couriers between terrorists and Obama. Many Freepers remember that Code Pink delivered $650,000 in cash and humanitarian aid to what Code Pink called “the other side” in Fallujah as the Marines were clearing that Iraqi city of al Qaeda and other Sunni terrorists in late 2004. Jodie Evans and Code Pink also publicly endorsed the terrorists in Iraq. Lately Code Pink has been working with Hamas, the Taliban and the Muslim Brotherhood. Code Pink’s treasonous ties to terrorists and Obama has been extensively reported at Big Government and of course here at Free Republic. Code Pink also waged a campaign against the Marine Corps officer recruiting center in Berkeley. Mapquest link for Quantico. Basically, it is off I-95 just south of Dumfries. Afterward, you may want to take the time to visit the nearby National Museum of the Marine Corps. Details as to where to meet in Quantico on Sunday morning will be added to this thread, but plan to arrive around 10 a.m. As always, the D.C. Chapter of FreeRepublic.com’s rules for demonstrating will be in effect. Briefly, they are: No violence, no profanity, no racism, no provocations, obey the law and treat all law enforcement officers with respect.

    Times like this, I miss DC.

    By the way, that MOTHAX guy (whoever he is) has more at The Burnpit.

  • Execute Manning?

    Last night, a lot of people thought Ace had lost his mind when he wrote that Wikileaker and DADT advocate Bradley Manning should be hanged;

    Kill him. Make it a cause celebre, and make him an example to the next leaker.

    String him up and choke him until he is dead, dead, dead.

    This morning a Michigan Republican Congressman is advocating for his execution, too;

    “I argue the death penalty clearly should be considered here,” [Republican Rep. Mike Rogers] said. “He clearly aided the enemy to what may result in the death of U.S. soldiers . . . If that is not a capital offense, I don’t know what is.”

    Now, I really don’t believe in the death penalty, not for the reasons you might think. In my opinion, I don’t trust the government to take anyone’s life. I mean, would you put your life in the hands of Charlie Rangel or Maxine Waters? Anyway, I’m opposed to Manning’s execution regardless of how his trial turns out.

    But you see while I’m lifting my chin and feeling morally superior to the rest of you, I come across nimroddery like this from Michael “are you going to finish those fries” Moore;

    Moore thought that Manning “is exactly who we want in our armed forces,” and deserves the Profile in Courage award for helping to make the WikiLeaks public knowledge. “You can’t just line up and be a good German and do what you’re told to do,” Moore said in defense of Manning’s audacity.

    At that point, I realize that the only way to make sure Manning serves out his sentence without some pompous and arrogant windbag like Moore advocating for his undeserved early release from his 90,000 life sentences is to kill Manning.

  • Can’t Imagine Why.

    It seems that the reporter that leaked private conversations is wondering why his request to be embedded with Military in Afghanistan was rejected according to Army Times.

    The author of the Rolling Stone article that ended the military career of Army Gen. Stanley McChrystal, the former top commander in Afghanistan, has been denied permission to join U.S. troops fighting in Afghanistan, the Pentagon said Tuesday.

    Defense Department spokesman Col. David Lapan told reporters that freelance writer Michael Hastings was rebuffed when he asked to accompany, or “embed,” with American forces next month.

    I mean this is a total shock right, I mean posting angry comments about why support has taken over a year to get to Afghanistan and expects to be accepted there again?

    The inspector general is considering whether officers were insubordinate and how far up the chain of command responsibility for decisions involving the Hastings interviews extended, officials said. Defense officials outlined the investigation on condition of anonymity because it is ongoing and has reached no conclusions.

    On a side note we need to make a drinking game that sates that if anyone says “Not authorized to speak to the Press.” or something we drink. Because I see this happen way too much in our and Foreign news.

    Oh the same reporter has a book deal that he s going to talk about him leaking these conversations, I mean why in the world would you not want him back.

    Oh on the subject of Generals and Politics here is one for a good laugh.

    General Pace – you have the power to fulfill your responsibility to protect the troops under your command. Indeed you have an obligation to do so.

    You can relieve the President of his command.

    Not of his Presidency. But of his military role as Commander-In-Chief.

    You simply invoke the Uniform Code Of Military Justice.

    There is only one possible response for something like this.

  • Left plots exploitation of Wikileaks documents

    The Left didn’t waste any time getting together in New York City yesterday looking for ways to use the documents from the Wikileaks drop for their own nefarious purposes. Someone dropped a link to me Saturday about the conference. They highlighted the luminaries that they had invited to speak;

    * Dahr Jamail, journalist, author of “Beyond the Green Zone”
    * Cindy Sheehan, antiwar leader, author, Director, Peace of the Action
    * Josh Stieber, Army veteran of Bravo Company 2-16
    * Matthis Chiroux, Army veteran, Iraq war resister
    * Mike Ferner, President, Veterans for Peace
    * Ray McGovern, former CIA Agent, Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity
    * Jeff Paterson, Courgage to Resist, spokesperson for Bradley Manning Support Comm
    * Elaine Brower, military mother, World Can’t Wait
    * Debra Sweet, Director, World Can’t Wait

    Debra Sweet calls them “a strong group of resisters and truth-tellers”. They resist common sense and none would know the truth if it bit their collective ass. Dahr Jamail has made a career of ignoring facts that get in his way, Cindy Sheehan you all know, Josh Stieber bears witness to the “Collateral Murder” video yet he was still behind the wire during the events of that day. Matthis, well he’s a celebrity here. TSO dealt with Jeff Paterson‘s hyperbole last year. Elaine Brower, hiding behind her son’s service, calls other troops baby killers.

    Someone just sent me a video of their discussion (obviously an event designed to raise money to put up their noses). The video is 2 hours long and obviously, I haven’t watched the damn thing, I just skipped ahead to 1:10 (that’s an hour and ten minutes) and saw Matthis with his little band of pirates at the Under The Hood cafe. I couldn’t even listen to him drone on about something about himself and his plan to spend a month in Killeen with the junior buccaneer club.

    You’re welcomed to watch all of the video that you can stand. Looking at Deborah Sweet’s and Elaine Brower’s fat thighs wears out pretty quickly, though. That’s why I put it below the jump;
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  • Whittenberg’s AAR of the protest last Friday

    In case you were wondering how well the participants thought the protest went outside of Fort Hood last week, Bobby Whittenberg, the head pirate of the new revolution, says it went well;

    Whittenberg sounds a little disappointed that no counter protesters showed up, but I’m sure everyone else had better things to do on a Friday afternoon than hang out with pirate-wannabes in the Central Texas heat.

    I’m sure getting a thumbs-up from Carl Webb was worth the whole thing for them. Oh, and why wasn’t Webb there? No one to lend him a bicycle? Couldn’t get off someone else’s couch soon enough? He wasn’t working for the Man, was he?

    Yep, speaking truth to power, that’s what it was. That’s what we expect from buccaneers like Bobby and his parrot, Mike Kern. This is how I envision Kern and Whittenberg’s relationship.

    Welcome to the new revolution – same as the old revolution.

  • General Pelosi disagrees with White House on drawdown pace

    Well, you get the government you deserve. Here we are a year from the projected pull out from Afghanistan and already the Administration and the Congress are at odds over how fast we should cut and run. Pelosi and SecDef Gates have vastly disparate views on the pace;

    Since when does the Speaker of the House get to decide for the commander in chief? Just write the checks and shut up Pelosi. Politico writes;

    Pelosi, who saw 102 of her Democratic colleagues break ranks with President Barack Obama and oppose further war funding in a vote last week, suggested Americans would be disappointed and surprised if the initial withdrawal amounted to only a few thousand troops–a possibility recently laid out by Vice President Joe Biden.

    “Well, I hope it is more than that,” Pelosi said. “I know it’s not going to be, ‘Turn out the lights and let’s all go home on one day.’ But I do think the American people expect it to be somewhere between that and a few thousand troops.”

    Yes, a slim margin of Democrats broke with the Speaker on funding the war – probably 102 Democrats who won’t be in the House next year. The same peckerwoods who have voted against funding the war since the beginning. So who cares?

    Of course that’s been the plan all along – withdraw from Afghanistan while looking like the Administration wants to win. The goal isn’t making Afghanistan safe for us, it’s about ending our involvement no matter what Afghanistan looks like. That’s why there’s a schedule for withdrawal and not a model for success. That’s why that dick Eikenberry is still the ambassador to Afghanistan. He’s been a failure at everything he’s ever done and deflects blame so well.

    This is like last year’s tax cut. It was anemic and ineffectual, but the administration points to it every time the coming tax hikes are mentioned as proof that they’re against tax hikes. They’ll do the same in 2012 when they’re accused of losing Afghanistan – they’ll point at the anemic troops increases as proof that they want to win the war.