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Category: Antiwar crowd

  • Duff: We were smarter and tougher than WWII vets

    Gordon Duff made perhaps the stupidest comment on the internet made by any veteran ever. First of all let’s look again at who is talking. According to his records, Duff reported to basic training, or boot camp, or whatever you Marines call it, on February 28, 1969, on August 22, 1970 he was in Fort Living Room waiting for someone to invent cable TV. 18 months of military service. Of that time, he was in Vietnam August 5, 1969 until August 5, 1970. Out of those twelve months he spent from August 5, 1969 until Christmas day as a rifleman – the rest was spent as a gopher in the S-3 shop. I’m not disparaging his service – majors need someone to fetch their coffee and fluff their pillow, too.

    But you’ll see where I’m going when you read his idiot comment;

  • Gordon Duff says:

    Bobby,
    Rather than “liberal” I would point out we were better educated, more independent, and fought a brutal war with less “down time” than any American army since the Revolutionary War.
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    • Duff spent 18 months in the Marines. There were Marines in the Pacific that were there on Dec. 7th, 1941 and didn’t see home until after August 1945. Now unless the Revolutionary War was fought after the Second World War, his math might be off a bit. The same comparison could be made for soldiers in the Civil War who marched off to war in 1861 and didn’t get home until the summer 1865 – that’s longer than a year, too – but I didn’t need to tell you that, because you’re better at math than Duff.

    And I have to tell you, candidly, that list of awards on Duff’s FOIA is REAL light for a TOC Rat. Battalion pogues usually get medals for an especially good job of tightening tent ropes on the officers’ toilet. Couldn’t get the hang of that, Gordon?

    Those of you who know me know that I highly respect Vietnam veterans, that on countless occasions I’ve credited the training I got from some of the toughest and smartest warriors whoever wore the uniform in Vietnam for my survival and the survival of my soldiers. And I’m pretty sure that most Vietnam vets would credit WWII and Korean War veterans for their success and return home.

    No, Duff, you’re a fucking Liberal, you aren’t tougher or smarter than anyone, maybe that mouse you keep in your pocket…but that’s it. That’s your whole problem, dipshit. We’re all veterans no matter how or why we served, or how long, or what our jobs were. I don’t think there’s more than one or two real veterans I’d throat punch, but you just joined that list Gordo.

    And yeah, the VFW disrespected Vietnam veterans by disallowing them in the organization. But, your generation taught them a lesson…they came to my door and offered to pay half of my life membership dues if I’d join. So be a fucking man for a change and get over it – you limp-wristed pussyboy.

    Next time you want to measure dicks, go measure them with Code Pink, you might come out ahead.

    Thanks to TSO for the link.

  • Medea: Jon Stewart is trying to make us look silly

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    Little Suzie Benjamin writes in the Huffington Post today that she’s disgusted by the attempt by the Daily Show crowd to make fun of her;

    When Jon Stewart announced the Rally to Restore Sanity, he included CODEPINK among the “loud folks” getting in the way of civil discourse. He also equated progressives calling George Bush a war criminal with right-wingers calling Obama Hitler.
    […]
    We did, indeed, get a call from the producers but it was not for a live interview with Jon Stewart. No, it was for a taped session with myself, a Tea Party organizer and a tear-gas dodging, anti-globalization anarchist “giving advice” to Daily Show’s Samantha Bee about how to organize a good rally. It was clear they wanted to portray us as the crazy folks who should not come to their rally for reasonableness.

    Crazy? Never!

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    Ya know when you spend seven years or so trying to convince people you’re an immature little twit and half off your rocker, sooner or later, someone’s going to believe you.

    Thanks to Daniel for sending us the link so I could paw through my pictures.

  • Those non-partisan folks at IAVA

    You probably remember TSO’s well researched and documented article last week entitled “Criticisms of the New IAVA Scorecard (Actually, ALL Scorecards)“. Well Veterans Today decided that Michael Farrell would do an article on the IAVA scorecard, too, but apparently they wanted to the complete opposite – just cut and paste without a moment’s research.

    The part that got me was this line;

    It’s hard to be an upstart organization for Vets and be totally nonpartisan but IAVA tries.

    Are you serious, numbnuts? March 6th last year, I wrote about how “nonpartisan” are IAVA and it’s Executive Director, Paul Reickhoff. Reickhoff is as non partisan as I am – the difference is that I’ll admit it. That’s probably why I got an email from Reickhoff a few weeks ago asking me to attend some piece of shit IAVA event. Funny how that came just before the scorecard was released, huh? Probably because Reickoff was still smarting from the first spanking TSO gave him over the 2008 scorecard.

    The Veterans Today article is entitled “Maybe someday we’ll wake up as a group …” From what I can tell, the crew at Veterans Today is in a deep coma with no chance of waking up if they think Paul Reickoff, the founder of OpTruth, the Army lieutenant who gave the Democrat response to one of President Bush’s Saturday Radio Addresses, is trying to be nonpartisan.

    Take this one that Farrel takes at face value;

    A couple of other interesting trends: one Democrat in a tough race went from an A+ rating to an A (Barbara Boxer) while another went from an A to an A+ (Blanche Lincoln).

    Yeah, poor anti-war Barbara Boxer, who berated a general for calling her “Ma’am” instead of “Senator” fell from an A+ to an regular old “A”. Poor thing. I guess that’ll teach her. Farrell takes the “fuckstick” title I bestowed on Reickhoff once.

    Thanks to TSO for the link.

  • Duff: Some fat Jew called and he wants you to attack US

    TSO, whose obsession with Gordon Duff is beginning to worry me, sent this latest missive from Veterans Today. You remember Gordon Duff, right? He’s the guy who, one week, declared that Iran’s president Ahmadinejah is a Mossad agent and then the following week declared him a super-genius mouthpiece for the anti-war left.

    He also declared that Adam Perlman, the American Taliban, Adam Gadahn, is also a Mossad spy. His proof was this unmistakable picture of Gadahn on an Israeli beach;

    Well, this week’s fantasy from The Mind of Duff is that Perlman phones in a threat to the US from his bungalow on the Mediterranean coast;

    Does anyone wonder why Gadahn never calls for attacks on Israel? In fact, Al Qaeda doesn’t seem to know Israel exists. They never threaten Israel. They never attack Israel. They never even mention Israel, never. All those Osama bin Laden and Adam Perlman, sorry, “Adam Gadahn” tapes have one thing in common.

    Israel doesn’t exist. Get the picture?

    Now, everyone in the Near East has been calling for an attack on Israel and what effect has it had? Hardly anyone outside of Palestine has heeded those calls. Why does Duff think that Perlman would have a different effect? This right up there with Duff’s declaration the battle in Marjah, Afghanistan never happened because Duff had never heard of the city before the Marines assaulted there.

    The genius of Duff is the volume of crap you have to wade through to get to his point – and many times I miss it completely. This is one of those times – unless it’s simply that we’re all being fooled by the Jews once again – those crafty people who convinced the rest of the world to give them a narrow strip of barren wasteland which they transformed into Europe’s agricultural equivalent of California.

    But here’s one of the more curious bits from Duff; not only has bin Laden been dead since 2001, he also denies involvement in 9/11. It’s difficult to determine whether bin Laden died before or after his denial because Duff’s source is al Jazeera which didn’t bother to date it – or Duff figured the date conflicted with his other information and didn’t bother to add it.

  • Dahlia Wasfi the lying POS

    Dahlia Wasfi was born in Iraq and fled the Hussein government with her family when she was six years old. In recent years, instead of blaming the Hussein government for conditions in Iraq, she’s found it more profitable to rage against the US. In this video which someone sent me, she makes the outrageous claim that since World War Two, 90% of causalities of wars have been civilians. You’ll notice that she’s on Iran’s PressTV – the English language press arm of the Iranian government.

    Ya know, if you factor in The Sudan’s persecution of Christians, the Rwandan genocide, the killing fields of Cambodia, the Vietnamese extermination of opponents, she might be right. But, of course, her assertion is that 90% of the casualty in US wars have been civilians.

    It shouldn’t surprise you that Wasfi was a vociferous supporter of Carl Webb and his philosophy that IVAW should support the killing and maiming of US troops. The length of time that Wasfi spent in Iraq during the war there can almost be measured in days – she spent three months there in 2006 and plays the expert. She banks on your acceptance of her expertise on the subject of Iraq based merely on her parentage.

    Every bio that I can find on her says the same thing about her education “Dr. Wasfi graduated from Swarthmore College in 1993 with a B.A. in Biology, and in 1997 graduated from the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine.” Graduated with what degree? She calls herself a doctor, but it seems to me that she mention what in what endeavor was her doctorate. See the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine has several areas of study, some have little to do with medicine.

    Given her activism, I’m guessing that whatever her degree was in, it probably wasn’t as profitable as yapping about shit with which she’s unfamiliar.

  • Yea great idea. Why didn’t we think of that, oh yeah it is stupid.

    I have friends who are active in the group Rethink Afghanistan. Sometimes the post stories and comments that seem more like satire. But lately I am having a hard time telling the difference anymore. This one is a perfect example.

    Nicholas Kristof’s New York Times column shares a shocking statistic that shows the U.S.’s warped priorities in Afghanistan: if we brought home just 243 troops, we’d save enough money to pay for all higher education everywhere in Afghanistan this year.

    Yep cause the fact that Afghanistan’s illiteracy in that most people in Afghanistan cannot read and write. So the money that would be freed up would be used for post secondary education would not be abused for other things.

    “Remember Afghanistan has been at war for 30 years, and neither the Soviets who were here before the Taliban nor the Taliban put people through school. So education was not prized. As a matter of fact, the Taliban shut down the schools.”

    But with the time proven statement of “Nothing is impossible to those that do not have to do it” have people over at Rethink Afghanistan is a great idea.

    Mr. [Greg] Mortenson says that $243 million is needed to fund all higher education in Afghanistan this year. He suggests that America hold a press conference here in Kabul and put just 243 of our 100,000 soldiers (each costing $1 million per year) on planes home. Then the U.S. could take the savings and hand over a check to pay for Afghanistan’s universities.

    The war in Afghanistan isn’t making us safer, and it’s not worth the cost. The fact that bringing home 243 troops could pay for all higher education in Afghanistan this year shows that there are much, much better ways of stabilizing Afghanistan and improving the lives of Afghans if we’re willing to let go of military force as the answer.

    Yea with so in review how does passing around this little gem that would not only not work but no one that thought of it will be willing to make it work. But it sounds nice, which is more important then anything else.

  • VFP Phony in Seattle?

    Rurik sent me a link to this post at Geobent about a gaggle of organizations who protested the war in Seattle. I see ANSWER signs, a Military Families Speak Out sign, and some Veterans For Peace banners and participants. One guy from the latter group stuck out to me. He wore four rows of ribbons with the Combat Infantry Badge beneath them. Anyone who was ever earned the CIB knows that it goes above everything. Well here’s a picture of the hero;

    I blew up another picture that shows his rack a little better;

    I may be off a bit, but it looks like his highest award (reader’s top left) is the Korea Defense Medal which is certainly not the highest among the medals he’s wearing. Next is a single award of the Army Commendation Medal which is plausible, but the next is a Meritorious Service Medal – the highest award of the whole mess. Then the Army Achievement Medal, then the Reserve Components Achievement Medal 4th Award followed by the Republic of Korea War Service Medal – a foreign award which goes after all US Army awards – and it has some funny devices on it that I don’t recognize. The ribbon on your far left in the second row from the bottom is the South West Asia Service Medal. The next one is the Overseas Service Ribbon – not a medal so it’s lower than medals. Next is what looks like four awards of the Army Service Ribbon – awarded for six months in the Army. I’m not aware of consequent awards of the ribbon. I’m pretty sure you only get it once without any palm leafs. Following that ribbon is the National Defense Medal which should be above the two ribbons preceding it – it’s a medal. That’s followed by the foreign award of the Saudi Arabia Defense Medal, it’s followed by the Kuwait Liberation Medal, but it should probably be right-side up instead of the way this doofus is wearing it.

    Now, below that is the CIB and master Sergeant rank, so I have to think that he’s trying the give the impression that he’s a Master Sergeant with combat infantry experience. Now he has some reserve medals, which mean he was in the Reserves. If he was in the Reserves during Desert Storm, he didn’t get a CIB, because no reserve infantry units deployed to Desert Storm. If he was on active duty when he deployed to Saudi Arabia, where is an Army Good Conduct Medal? Just one for three years of service without stepping on his dick.

    There’s no NCO Development Ribbon, yet he made it to Master Sergeant? Impossible if he was promoted after 1986. So he thinks he’s a Master Sergeant, but got his ribbons and medals mixed up and upside down? And if I’m not mistaken, the Korean Defense Medal is for combat.

    But I do know that if everything on his uniform true, and someone walked alongside of me with that sign, I’d seriously think twice about the company I’m keeping because associating myself with someone that stupid doesn’t honor my fallen comrades.

  • Vote Vet wastes money on Harry Reid ad

    If I were to name one person in the Senate who did absolutely nothing to support the troops deployed in combat, it would be Harry Reid. He declared the “surge” a failure before it began. He spent two years trying to defund the wars and leave the troops in the field without resources – two entire years. During that time, he couldn’t pass a defense budget, yet found time to bring to the floor of the Senate time and again legislation that would prematurely end our involvement in the Near East.

    Here’s VoteVet’s “About” statement;

    The mission of VoteVets.org Political Action Committee is to elect Veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to public office; hold public officials accountable for their words and actions that impact America’s 21st century servicemembers; and fully support our men and women in uniform.

    Yet, here’s the ad that VoteVets is running in Nevada for Reid, who somehow managed to avoid military service, and has managed to to avoid support for the troops in the field.

    Dicksmith writes;

    Titled “Highway,” the ad shows a young man hiking along the road, just as Harry Reid did once a week as he went back and forth to school. Narrated by Anthony Funches an Air Force veteran from Las Vegas, the ad chronicles how Harry Reid has always beat the odds, including his leadership to provide care and benefits to our nation’s veterans.

    Are they talking about the same Harry Reid the rest of us know? In Pennsylvania, they’re supporting Patrick Murphy – their sole survivor of the 2008 cycle after their other goofus, Eric Masa screwed himself out of the House of Representatives – with this ad;

    Yeah, I’m sure Mike Fitzpatrick is a bigger threat to veterans than Reid. Dick Smith promises more ads tomorrow – wanna bet it’s for Sestak?

    Jon Soltz writes about the commercials and Vote Vets;

    We’ve been there to push through the new GI Bill, to push back against truly wasteful spending that could be used for the troops, and to support veterans who want to continue their service in public life, among many other things.

    Yeah, since when. VoteVets and Soltz has been charging hard for the Clean Energy Bill (Cap and Trade) which has nothing to do with supporting the troops – name one thing they’ve done this year that didn’t have to do with Cap and Trade or getting Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell reversed.

    He forgot to add one thing to that last sentence. It should read; “…to support veterans who want to continue their service in public life, as long as they’re Democrats“.

    ADDED: TSO pointed out that last Friday dicksmith wrote;

    Look, I’m not real comfortable with a Veterans organization endorsing non-Vets at all. If there is no Vet in the race or you don’t like the one in the race, just don’t endorse.

    So why are they throwing money at Harry Reid. He’s not a veteran, there’s not a veteran in his race? Why doesn’t dicksmith and Soltz just come out and be honest that the only requirement for their support is membership in the Democrat Party? Are they just that treacherous and unscrupulous?