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Category: Antiwar crowd

  • It is easy to be brave…

    When you are not the one doing it. But that does not stop people from telling people to do what they are afraid to do themselves.

    Hey, #occupydc…lots of weapons dealers hawking their wares to govt at Wash. Convention Center this week. Just sayin. http://ow.ly/6SR3Y

    Yea I did not see your picture in the “Occupy Austin” so what was your excuse?

    Or trying to blame the military spending for the failure of the green jobs that were suppose to bring us back to economic recovery?

    These stories will proliferate as the military contractor corporations push to protect their profits. When you see them, PUSH BACK. Military spending *costs jobs* compared to other ways of spending the money.

    It is so easy to tell people what to do when you are not the one doing it.

  • Marines to “protect” Wall Street protesters

    You’ve probably heard that there were hundreds of protesters arrested on Wall Street> well, Ward reilly, the phony Vietnam Veteran and phony Ranger, in a link sent by Toothless Dawg, posted on his Facebook page that a group of former marines are headed to Wall Street to supposedly “protect” the protesters” from police;

    “I’m heading up there tonight in my dress blues. So far, 15 of my fellow marine buddies are meeting me there, also in Uniform. I want to send the following message to Wall St and Congress:I didn’t fight for Wall St. I fought for America. Now it’s Congress’ turn.

    My true hope, though, is that we Veterans can act as first line of defense between the police and the protester. If they want to get to some protesters so they can mace them, they will have to get through the Fucking Marine Corps first. Let’s see a cop mace a bunch of decorated war vets.I apologize now for typos and errors.

    Typing this on iPhone whilst heading to NYC. We can organize once we’re there. That’s what we do best.If you see someone in uniform, gather together.

    A formation will be held tonight at 10PM.

    We all took an oath to uphold, protect and defend the constitution of this country. That’s what we will be doing.

    Yeah, guys, who wants to protect the rest of us who depend on the activity on Wall Street? You know, those of us who have 401ks and mutual funds. Um, grow up, fellas. if you’re somehow attached to Ward Reilly, the phony, you’re on shaky ground in the first place. What are you going to “protectt” the protesters from, anyway? From being arrested for breaking the law? Nice way to “defend the Constitution”. When you Marines get to New york and the protest, look around at the ash and trash hippies you’re “protecting”. Most are professional protesters and rumors persist that many of them are Canadians – so you’re going to defend the Constitution by protecting Canadians from arrest?

    Someone asked me if Adam Kokesh is going to be there in New York. Apparently not. he was in DC protesting against Obama along with GWU students, according to this video sent by one of my ninjas;

  • The “smarter than you” crowd

    You know someone had to say it. al-Awlaki’s death has been ruled murder by the “smarter than you” crowd, beginning with DOCTOR Ron Paul and now Glenn Greenwald;

    The vacuous Greenwald goes on to say;

    What’s most amazing is that its citizens will not merely refrain from objecting, but will stand and cheer the U.S. Government’s new power to assassinate their fellow citizens, far from any battlefield, literally without a shred of due process from the U.S. Government.

    Far from any battlefield? al-Awlaki was far from any battlefield when he encouraged Nidal Hasan to murder 14 American soldiers. In fact, Hasan was far from any battlefield when he did his dirty deed. So was Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab when he lit his drawers on fire and scorched his nuts off over Detroit that fine Christmas day. Carlos Bledsoe was far from any battlefield on that day that he shot two young soldiers outside of a recruiting station in Little Rock after getting his orders from al-Awlaki.

    Um, Glenn, there is no battlefield and the enemy has no rules of warfare. it should have been made clear to you when Daniel Pearl was beheaded for our television entertainment.

    Glen’s bedfellow, Ron Paul said;

    “No, I don’t think that’s a good way to deal with our problems,” Paul said in a videotape of the questioning by reporters. Awlaki “was never tried or charged for any crimes. No one knows if he killed anybody. We know he might have been associated with the ‘underwear bomber.’ But if the American people accept this blindly and casually that we now have an accepted practice of the president assassinating people who he thinks are bad guys. I think it’s sad.”

    Nice try…we had months to “accept this blindly” since the White House announced there were shoot to kill orders on al-Awlaki. If the American people had a problem with this, there would have been outrage and marching in the streets which would have made this president waffle, like he did on Guantanamo.

    I guess no one noticed that our enemies in this war don’t exactly fight by the traditional Western European rules of war and in order to beat them, we have to do unorthodox things. And make no mistake, we HAVE to beat them.

    Greenwald and Paul are only feeding the terrorists propaganda lines for their next screed.

  • Ah, the follies of Youth.

    I got this reply to a comment I made about this photo of some shirtless wonder being arrested at the Wall Street Protest. Mind you before you start that this person is still in High School. (I spaced it out for a easier read)

    warren, no offence, but that’s a rather ignorant view… Professional protesters? Really? I’d sooner believe over half of them were there to pick up chicks. This is why I don’t support non-violent protests.

    March as an army or not at all. I want no more martyrs and real changes. And if tearing everything down is the only way to make some changes, then so be it. And I guarentee some of these “hippies” (that just got assaulted for doing something that is specifically protected in the bill of rights) are starting to think more militantly as well. Hopefully they do something with those ideas within my lifetime (talking the next 20-30 years).

    I have been jumped by cops, I have had cops give false testimony in court after being beat by my gfs mom and stepdad, I have been profiled and prejudicely accosted by police for looking like I fit their statistics. Don’t even try to say that the police didn’t instigate it and assault foolish kids and true patriots. Pigs were probably just bored of sitting around and figured they’d get the show over with… And of course a big problem is that the protesters did leave. They should have brought tents. And as far as I’m concerned, they should have brought an armoury and taken the building. THIS is exactly what “the right to bear arms” is all about. A gun was practically a necessary tool for survival when the bill of rights was wrote, it has nothing to do with owning a gun, really. And for the record, I don’t think guns would be the best means of fire power anyways… I don’t feel much sympathy for these people.

    This is how American “non-violent” protest ends. the other side (police) instigates the violence and drag them away bloody and burned (if not gassed and shot with rubber bullets). History has a tendency to repeat its self. They knew it was coming, even if they WANTED to believe that THIS protest would be different. The time has passed for such nieve optomism. And you know, it’s funny how none of the cops ever make it to protect planned parenthood from protesters (or for similar protests) Simple fact is, the police are not here to protect and serve the people. They are against the people, even in every day interaction. And the judicial system is a running joke. And we’re basically back to the “nobility” stage. It’s time to remove this taint on our country! I say people need to start being MORE radical!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Do you prefer the “hippies” now?

    She reminds me ofBobby Whittenberg but double the douch.

  • VFP tries to arrest Rumsfeld

    Daniel sends us a link to a report that the Geezers for Sitting on Our Hands (Veterans For Peace) tried to conduct a citizens’ arrest of Donald Rumsfeld in Boston last night;

    “I went down in front and looked Donald Rumsfeld in the eye and said, ‘I’m making a citizen’s arrest,’” protester Nate Goldschlag told WCVB-TV.

    “He lied us into Iraq. He lied about weapons of mass destruction. He lied about Saddam Hussein being involved in 9/11.”

    Three of the protesters removed from the event were with Veterans for Peace and a fourth was a member of Code Pink. One protester was arrested outside the event for allegedly using a bullhorn to assault a police officer.

    Goldschlag forgot to mention that Rumsfeld was on the grassy knoll in Dallas and staged the moon landing in Arizona.

    Of course, the people who wanted to hear what Rumsfeld had to say booed the four tiny-penised protesters.

    I only wish that they’d had the gumption to try that shit at the Milblog Conference when Rumsfeld spoke to us, but that was early on a Saturday morning, you know the hippies couldn’t drag themselves out for a principled stand at 8am.

    Here’s the protester’s side of the discussion below the jump;
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  • That “Poverty Draft” thing

    Matthis and Adam Kokesh, along with Iraq Veterans Against the War Executive Director Jose Vasquez, encouraged by Charlie Rangel and his push for a draft, are all fond of calling the all-volunteer military fighting our wars in the Middle East a “poverty draft” military, meaning that we recruit from the nation’s ghettos for the cannon fodder we send to war. Ann Marlowe, in the Wall Street Journal writes about a Heritage Foundation study which lays that canard to rest;

    Indeed, the Heritage report showed that “low-income families are underrepresented in the military and high-income families are overrepresented. Individuals from the bottom household income quintile make up 20.0 percent of Americans who are age 18-24 years old but only 10.6 percent of the 2006 recruits and 10.7 percent of the 2007 recruits. Individuals in the top two quintiles make up 40.0 percent of the population, but 49.3 percent of the recruits in both years.”

    What about the charge that our Army is disproportionately black? This too is false, as is clear from data for fiscal 2010 available on the Army’s website: Whereas blacks comprise 17% of Americans ages 18-39 with high school degrees, they represent only a slightly larger proportion of enlisted soldiers, at 21%.

    But we all knew that, didn’t we?

    Marlowe concludes;

    The myth of the ghetto Army is as nastily racist as it is false.

    You should read the whole opinion piece.

  • What a peace message from the Taliban looks like.

    So it seems that the Taliban have killed Burhanuddin Rabbani, chairman of Afghanistan’s High Peace Council

    Rabbani, a former Afghan national leader, was killed and his deputy wounded as “they met two men who said they had come from Quetta, Pakistan, with a peace message from the Taliban,” said council member Habibullah Fawzi. Kabul police spokesman Hashmatullah Stanekzai said the men hid at least one bomb in their turbans, which guards failed to search when the men entered the home.

    Are we talking notes? If anyone thinks that the Taliban wants peace were they do not have control of everything is only fooling themselves.

    Dr. Abdullah Abdullah, a former presidential candidate and Northern Alliance leader, summed up the sentiments heard from many Northern Alliance figures in the wake of the assassination: “This is a lesson for all of us that we shouldn’t fool ourselves that this group, who has carried out so many crimes against the people of Afghanistan, are willing to make peace.”

    Dr. Abdullah added: “We have to be realistic about what we are up against. We are up against people who don’t believe in any humanity. They assassinate people on the streets of Kabul, they assassinate those trying to achieve peace.” Last spring the Taliban had proclaimed that they would kill members of the High Peace Council.

    “No one took it seriously and they should have and it is also time for President Karzai to wake up,” he said. “These are the people who he calls his ‘dear brothers,’ they are behind what happened.” He referred to President Hamid Karzai’s predilection for calling the insurgents “dear brothers” or “upset brothers.”

    If I another video that tries to say some useless feel good message as a legit solution for Afghanistan it will be too soon.

    Here is a interview with the late Burhanuddin Rabbani.

    He was quoted with saying the following below before the suicide bomber attack.

    “Especially in our country, there are a number of individuals who kill Muslims in the name of Muslims. We should take a clear stand against this new phenomenon when the killing of Muslims is seen as something allowable,” said Mr. Rabbani, a former jihadist and Afghan president who, for the past year, had sought in vain to negotiate with insurgents as head of Afghanistan’s High Peace Council

  • DOD certifies DADT repeal

    Tamn and Jerry920 want you guys to know that the Pentagon has certified that the military is ready for the repeal of the decades-old Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy. Jerry wonders where Dan Choi is today. Well, according to the Global Post, Choi is hoping to go to prison;

    “I want the government to force me to go to jail,” Choi insists. “I’m not going to let them take the easy way.”

    Yeah, I hope he punches someone in the chest in prison. I hope he gets jail time, too, then he won’t be able to enlist in the Army. lord knows there are enough drama queens in the military these days, they don’t need Dan Choi chaining himself to some military front gate to protest pulling guard duty over the holiday.

    And, oh, Choi is now anti-war, according to that article in the Global Post, so the IVAW can look forward to him joining them soon, I suppose.

    But, anyway, where are the thousands of gays who wanted to serve in the military but couldn’t because of their conscience? They should be lined up around the block at your local recruiters’ office. Can you see them?

    Stars & Stripes Leo Shane laments that it’s decision for gays and lesbians to decide whether they want to come out of the closet or not.