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Weekend open thread

by Jonn Lilyea••192

Proof that hindsight is 20/20;

I’m thinking a poll in 1945, which would be more relevant, anyway, would have quite different results. Folks with actual skin in the game would probably have vastly different opinions. But, these days, Americans are more comfortable having no skin in any game – their opinions reflect that attitude.

I hear that the next CBS poll will be ask Americans if the Revolution was really necessary.

Anyway, our picture for the weekend thread comes from a joint effort of Frankie and Ex-PH2

Dragonflies Framed Bk (1)

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        1. I hope you do distract me next Friday.

          If you, I, and 3/17 Air Cav are all together on that day, thoughts about being the First on the WOT will be so far on the back burner, it’ll never see the light of day.

          Looking forward to getting together. If there are any other TAH commenters within a reasonable distance of Stately Claw Manor (Idaho Falls) and want to stop in, the open invitation stands to come join us.

          3. I was stationed there 28 years ago, if that counts.

            Christ, I’m old.

        2. Well hello fellow 3/17 vet. I was with A Troop scout platoon 68-69. Medevaced out after two gunshot wounds. Stayed in and retired. C Helms

  3. Just wanted to post a shout-out to my sons who celebrated their 47th Birthdays yesterday.

    One Army and one Navy.

    1. These uneducated punks today haven’t a clue about anything thanks to our communist N.E.A., the dumbing down of this society has worked! Millions on BOTH sides would have been killed had the nukes not been dropped, the japs even had little kids,women, old ladies, old men, training with broomsticks to defend the homeland…!

      1. I saw a poll on that. I believe the same polled individuals took part in the A-bomb query. Anyway, if I recall correctly, 67% of the respondents thought that Germany should not have bombed Pearl Harbor.

        1. And, 78% of respondents couldn’t find Hiroshima, Nagasaki or Pearl Harbor anywhere on a map, with both hands and coordinates, or on their smart phone. They did offer the opinion that Nagasaki shouldn’t have been bombed, as saki was a pretty good drink.

          1. Ok,are you two saying some people who respond to polls ain’t the sharpest knife in the drawer

            2. Well, you tell me. No sarcasm here, no joking, but in a recent study by the University of Florida concerning genetically modified organisms (GMOs), it was found that 84% of the respondents thought that there should be mandatory labeling of all foods containing GMOs. The same poll found that 80% of their respondents thought there should be mandatory labeling of all foods containing DNA.

              1. You left out the fact that NO GMO will germinate until Dihydrogen Monoxide has been applied to it and the plants will DIE without regular applications of that compound. Maybe they’ll want specific labels saying that DHMO was applied to them?

                1. Don’t laugh. A couple of years ago, a city council in California debated whether or not to ban DMHO.

                  I wish I was kidding.

                  2. DHMO, that’s some mean stuff!

                    It is an ingredient added to every agricultural pesticide and herbicide before application.

                    It is known to corrode cast iron and carbon steel.
                    Fast food franchises not only add it to their soft drinks, they use it to clean floors.
                    It is an additive to bleach and laundry detergent as well as juices.
                    It is the main chemical compound used in sewage treatment.
                    If inhaled sufficiently, it causes death.

                    1. Not to mention that it is nearly the most corrosive substance on Earth.

          2. Believe it or not, after Pearl was bombed Hitler asked his staff where it was, and not one damned person had any idea.

          3. Not surprising, they couldn’t find their own ass at high noon with both hands!!

    2. Probably a lot of the PC crowd who believe we deserve the worst that can happen to us as a country. That’s just a little sarc.

      1. No, it’s not. I had a co-worker tell me that she didn’t feel anything when 9/11 happened, because we ‘deserved it.’ The only reason you didn’t read about me in the papers was because there was a door behind me, and I used it — fast.

        1. Thank you for saving yourself.

          Meanwhile, my clients (european Phd medical researchers working in the US) wanted to know what they could do to help. I told them to keep doing what they were doing. Our guys would protect them, and they would give back some of our grandchildren.

  7. I wonder how many of the morons polled would even be here if their Father, Grandfather, or great-grandfather had to invade the home islands.

    Maybe the Fucktards should ponder that.

    1. That would require at least two step thinking, such conceptualizing is lost to a lot of millennials.

      1. My grandson (17) informed me last night that one of his friends stated that ‘dairy cows suffer more than meat cattle because of the daily milking’…fortunately my boy has been on a farm and thought the other idiot was…well, just that

    2. My grandfather led troop assault craft in most of the island invasions. He would have been in the first waves of the invasion of Japan. My vote never changes.

    3. I’ve wondered that, too. My paternal grandfather was an Army doctor in Alaska during the Second World War. If we had to invade the home islands, would he have been moved to a firebase near the action, only to be KIA? I would probably still have been born, as my Dad (God rest his soul) was born in 1940. But maybe my aunt and uncle wouldn’t have been?

      1. Mom’s dad was sounded in WW1. My three uncles served in WW2. Dad was a paratrooper (BOTH 82nd and 101st) (apologies to all if I got the numbers wrong) and lost part of his skull. Also awarded a BS but no valor device. He had a piece of medical ‘stuff’ covering a portion of his brain. I did 23 years in the Navy. At one time, I talked to our daughter about military service. She’s now 40 and, as a professional, I THINK she’s running out of time to join, although her profession is very highly sought by the military. Right now, though, I don’t think I could have another conversation with her about joining. I’m not liking some of what I see in today’s military. It has taken on the appearance of a PC Festival. I retired in 91 and from my observations the changes began in late 70s to early 80s. Would I join today knowing what I know? Yes, I think so. The gratification I had as a Corpsman I can’t fully explain. Just one of those things, I guess.

        1. My dad was ‘sounded’ in WW2? Make that ‘wounded’ and it will make sense. I bet he didn’t even hear the round coming his way. Thanks, dad, for your service.

  8. I’m surprised at the % who feel the use of atomic weapons did not save American lives. I don’t know in what semi-parallel universe they live.

    Omistake is on another around-the-world apology tour. The ‘man’ has no pride. He’s a PC whore.

    1. If they understood the idea of cause and effect, they wouldn’t embrace a fraction of the opinions given to them by their masters.

    2. They also have no clue about Japanese casualties, either. Had we expanded the fire bombing campaign to all of Japan’s major cities throughout the islands, the civilian casualties would have been in the multiple millions. Had the emperor allowed the general staff to fight to the last man as those fanatics wanted to do, the casualty count from multiple amphibious invasions and the subsequent ground warfare would have been even more millions.

      Idiots today have no idea of that on which they are asked to opine.

      1. I would imagine that we actually would have seen chemical warfare with nerve gas like VX if an invasion was actually done.
        That would be the only real way to ensure complete victory. There is no way that Truman would ever be able to justify up to a million American casualties…
        It might have cause the extinction of the entire Japanese race or at least the ones on that island.
        The survivors would be left a totally ravaged homeland that would be pretty much uninhabitable for a couple of decades.
        The consequences of that would be a million times worse than any atomic bomb…

    3. I disagree, he’s not a PC Whore, he’s a pukeface, POS, grave robbing, spittlefaced, turdbreath, attention grabbing, psychopathic narcissist, holier than thou, moronic, and a few hundred more things that I don’t want to mention here, pimped out ho that deserves a friggin’ rope necklace.
      It and it’s entire administration need to be replaced and done quick…

    1. Out for service. When you have thirty-foot long Carboniferou-era dragonflies, they can carry a fine heavy load without a tail rotor needed.

      I always thought they looked like Hueys, myself.

      1. Careful or we’ll have Jimmy Walls over here telling us how he flew those in VN…

  10. I’ m right behind you, Bud! Now let’s go round up some PV9 Gaineys, SGM Carrot Top, PV4 DONKEY Balls and PV8 Moeck and as well as Killer Killiam, James Fritch, William Grahame William, Roger Stuvrstant, Bill Batho, Amber Dawn Brown, Art Leal and send them to the front lines again so they can relieve their stories and prove their common sense mentality and leadership skills to one another. Instead of calliing it the Gainey Cup, we can rename i t “Look at me Cup” with the motto “Do as I say, not as I do.” Throw in a little pinch of Enablers, such as Linda ViLava, Fox Andler, Lance’s wife, Joe Gainey, Besty Wetsy Bill Bathos’sobbing, Bible based wife, and the DRG and voila! A free afternoon/evening entertainig show with lots of popcorn and beer/soda and water. What a way to celebrate Memeorial Day…HE-HAW!!!?

      1. I Keep forgetting Lol… I’m way under the weather today I guess I caught the New Mexico bug

  12. There were estimates of over one million Allied Casualties in the event of an invasion of Japan. The ruling Military Junta at the time had declared for all Japanese civilians to train and fight to the death as well. My opinion is that the use of the A-bombs likely saved far more Japanese lives than Allied. An atrocity? Yeah, anyone saying that can read “The Knights of Bushido” and then try to tell me how bad we were.

    1. Add to that the fact NO estimates went past the first 90 days, and only one considered potential Navy casualties.

      Looking at how badly they lowballed the casualty estimates at places like Iwo Jima and Okinawa, and the fact the US was in fact rapidly going broke funding the war, and the inevitable civilian casualties, yes, the atomic bombing saved far more Japanese as well as American lives.

    2. There is a picture of Japanese civilians training with sharpened bamboo spears to defend against the American invasion. I believe the picture is in the Marshall Cavendish encyclopedia of WWII. Spears against machine guns; how many Japanese would have be slaughtered when the USMC landed at Yokosuka?
      I must remember not to point these things out to liberals, it only confuses them.

      1. IMHO liberal moonbats are VERY severely allergic to facts, logic and common sense.

      2. Or, if you push logic on them hard enough, they’ll use the old standby: “That was just government propaganda!”

    3. That’s not to mention the suicide brigade. Dennis mentions below training photos. I remember seeing photos of entire Japanese families throwing themselves off the cliffs after we captured Guam. Or was it Okinawa? It’s been a while.

      Either way it was terrible to see.

      Another factor: by that time the Soviets would have absorbed Manchuria and invaded the home islands. We would have ended up with another partitioned country.

  13. This is the same liberal BS education system that has turn a whole generation of Americans or a big part into a bunch of morons…

    1. Yeah, it’s been said the same is true in Japan. That country is hesitant to teach the cold, hard truth about its own history and what level of barbarism it fell to during that country’s quest for domination in the Asian/Pacific part of the world.

      I guess it’s easier to claim being the victim instead of acknowledging some responsibility.

      1. When I was at Yokota some locals asked me if I was going to do any traveling. I told them I was going to Iwo Jima that weekend (the trip was cancelled and I never got there). They asked me where Iwo Jima was. I broke their hearts when I told them that was where John Wayne got killed.
        Outside of the Japanese WW II veterans I met, I got the impression a Japanese lesson on WW II is: Tojo was made Prime Minister, the Americans dropped the bombs, the war ended.
        The Japanese are not the only ones. In 1972, my high school American history book did not mention any wars, not the American Revolution, the Civil War, WW I, WW II, none of them. I asked the history department head about this and he replied, “If you don’t study war; you won’t do war”. Look at how well that’s worked.

        1. My grade school and high school history books covered war in considerable detail. I had a high school teacher who could recite from memory individual letters from soldiers in the Civil War, and it consequently became one of the most interesting classes one could take as it gave a very real feel for the people fighting, on both sides, not merely the objectives at stake.

          If there was ever a pervasive ‘if you don’t study war, you don’t do war’ mentality in the education system, it either skipped my schools or went away not long after your time through the system.

          I abhor most things about our modern education system, but that’s because it’s generally incompetent, not because it’s a liberal tool.

    2. I’m assuming you’re making that statement in reference to the poll about the A-bomb, so I’ll play devil’s advocate with two different viewpoints on it. And first, let me state that I grew up being taught, in that liberal BS education system, that the bomb lead to Japan’s surrender, saving countless American lives. And if we were to frame the poll question in such a way that this was an incontrovertible truth and it came down to, “Should the US government have dropped the bombs to save the lives of countless American soldiers who’d have died at the hands of Japanese?”, I imagine the ‘yes’ answers would be considerably higher. Not 100%, because some people are just like that, but still, a sizable number.

      However, it’s entirely possible that BS liberal education system teaches history as seen by historians,.. and historians hotly debate whether the bombs ended the war, or whether it was Russia’s entry into the fray that was the catalyst for surrender. Here’s one link with a bit more info[1]. Now, if people are learning both versions of this part of our history, I’d think it could be argued the dropping of the bombs was unnecessary from a certain standpoint.

      Another possibility is the ‘civilian’ factor – currently we’re engaged in wars against terrorist groups, not states, and the consequence of that is a focus on avoiding civilian casualties. After all, it’s the terrorists who kill civilians, right? What did the bombs do? They directly killed a bunch of civilians. It’s certainly true that was a different time and a different war, but given the visceral reaction people have towards acts that target civilians now, I think that can account for some of the shifting in the poll.

      History, like life, is imprecise. When you ask complicated questions of a poll and take responses from all viewpoints without the benefit of deeper analysis, you’re likely to get varied responses. It doesn’t necessarily make people who pick one over the other idiots. 😉

      Just my two cents on a reasonable, alternate perspective. My personal opinion, given what I currently know? The US didn’t know the surrender was imminent anyway, and had to act in her own best interests, and thus the bombs were likely necessary. But I’m not deep into the history and I’m willing to admit that if considerably evidence that we knew surrender was imminent arises, I’d be willing to change my mind. Would you?

        1. The idiots making that argument are simply unknowing “fellow travelers” for today’s left.

          The Soviet invasion of Manchuria was aimed more at two things: (1) assisting Mao in a takeover of China, and (2) acquiring a bargaining chip (captured Japanese forces in Manchuria) for use in regaining Sakhalin Island and/or a role in postwar Japan.

          Japanese forces in Manchuria would have been of little or no use in defending the Japanese home islands. By that point in the war, the Japanese simply didn’t have enough naval forces and merchant marine shipping left to transport them and their equipment from Manchuria back to Japan quickly. Had they tried, a large fraction – perhaps a majority – wouldn’t have made it back.

      2. An atomic bomb would eventually have been used. Far better to use those two when they were the only ones in existence, than to have used who knows how many when we had hundreds (?) of them. Had we waited long enough, the casualties would have been astronomically worse than they were. Hiroshima and Nagasaki may well have been the best thing that ever happened.

        1. An atomic bomb would eventually have been used. …

          I’m in regrettable but full agreement with that sentiment, yes. Again, I don’t currently disagree with the choice of dropping the bombs, I simply wanted to offer some reasonable viewpoints, even if they’re not ones people agree with. It was more a dig at the notion that the education system has turned us into a nation of idiots because of a poll result.

          Hiroshima and Nagasaki may well have been the best thing that ever happened.

          I completely understand what you’re saying, but I think it’s a poor way of saying it. Maybe the least bad option? I mean, if we believe that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have kept us safer from AQ types, who are always seeking NBC-weapons, it’s possible to argue -from the same viewpoint- that 9/11 was the ‘best thing’ that could have happened as we hardened our weak security afterwards. But I’m pretty disgusted by the thought from even having typed that out. It was a horrible thing, … out of many possible horrible things, many even worse.

  14. IN MEMORIAM
    Irving Tarchis, Y2c USNR. Born 1922 Passed over the bar 2014. Combat Action Ribbon(2000 SecNav order), Navy PUC w/star, Navy Good Conduct,Asiatic-Pacific Campaign w/11 stars, World War II Victory, Philippine Liberation w/2 stars. Served aboard USS Belleau Wood(CVL-24)
    Miss ya Dad

  15. “I knew what I was doing when I stopped the war that would have killed a half a million youngsters on both sides if those bombs had not been dropped. I have no regrets and, under the same circumstances, I would do it again — and this letter is not confidential.” From a letter to Irv Kupcinet of the Chicago Sun times from Harry S. Truman, The letter is dated 5 August 1963.

  16. Hey, it’s Friday! So, it’s time for my weekly shout out to the two fucksickles that are the “leaders” of the DRG, Dickless Danni-boi Bernastypants and is booty banging butt buddy, CoCkSlUuUuRrRrPeTh41!

    Still waiting on “the letter” Danni-boi? Well, as your butt buddy would say, it’s a “cometh” real soon. But, I’m sure that you’re aware that there are others looking at your behavior and questionable activities… so the disbarment may be just the tip of the old iceberg when it comes to your legal problems. Just be sure to listen to DuLlAsS about how to act in jail – he’s a pro when it comes to being the jailhouse bytch!

    As for QuEeFeRs… dude, are you getting ready for the weekend… as inrubbing yourself down with vasoline, downing another 50 gallons of DRG “Cock”tails and pissing on your self while wearing your skydiving clown suit? Still making the rounds at the local DZ as “Piss-pants, the inebriated, hobo, skydiving clown” ans scaring off adults and kids? Maybe you and Jerry Foster should get together and do a clown and magic show – and show the crowd how you made your honorable military careers “disappear” in a bunch of lies? Well, maybe you shouldn’t… you’re overdue for another run in the can for public intoxication. Just remember to shave your junk and splash a little Brut on your taint before you go in… for that “just fresh and violated” feeling when you make bail.

    Anyway, I’m 27th (again) and OUT!

  19. I will throw this out.. The fire bombing of Tokyo killed more people than both of the atomic bombs.

    1. How many people were hacked to death with machetes in Rwanda back in 1994? If you guessed in excess of 100,000, you move on to the bonus round. It is a shame that Japanese civilians died, but it was a crime what the Japanese military did to civilians in Korea, China, Vietnam, Thailand and The Philippines. Not to mention the treatment they inflicted in prisoners. America was not and is not the bad guy in this situation. They started it, we finished it.

      1. I hate American America haters with all my heart. These are the same people that support the liberal lie. I would bet that none of them know how many people have been and are being killed by their socialist and communist heroes. So I am with you. I could care less how the Japanese feel about this. Shout out to my Father who was in Korea and my Uncle who was in the Pacific in WWII.

        1. Careful there Charles..you are stepping on the toes of pseudo intellectual Commissar
          ( AKA Comrade Poodle Dik ) who has said more than once on this web site, “People who are afraid of Communism are foolish”. Both your father and your Uncle would have a lot to say to Comrade Poodle Dik.

          1. Sthop making thfun oft me! I’m sthpethel! I’m so sthpethel there’sth nobothy elth like me!

            POTHATO!

      2. Check out the book “The Knights of Bushido”, it chronicles some of the Japanese atrocities such as lining up local civilians for bayonet practice, Japanese Soldiers marching through hospitals bayoneting patients in their beds (Dutch West Indies), cannibalism of our Men held as POWs,…

        1. API…are you shittin’ us? Those same people who Comrade Poodle Dik tells us, “People who are afraid of Communism are foolish”. Hush yor mouth API, you’re about to give me a case of the vapors. Why those Commies are good people according to General Dingbat Berkeley.

          1. COMMIES SUCK!!!

            COMMIES ARE NOT COOL.

            COMMIES ARE CORRUPT

            COMMIES AND THOSE THAT FOLLOW THEM ARE IMBECILES.

            Communists were mass murdering scum of the earth all through the Twentieth Century.

            Communists are mega-???????

            ??????

          2. Well, you guys have to understand that the poodle thinks money falls out of the sky and he shouldn’t have to work for it. He’s a bum. He wants half or more of your income so that he can be a bum and sit on his useless ass spouting drivel that he thinks is ‘smart’.

            This is Jon Lovitz on paying taxes.

            https://youtu.be/5OhnQEP2Hl4

              1. Yeah, but now he’s sorry he did. We have to forgive people who admit to their mistakes, don’t we?

    2. For obvious reasons, the number of deaths worldwide in WW II are estimates. The National WW II Museum carries these numbers: Battle deaths of 15,000,000 and civilian deaths of 45,000,000. That big number has an * after it that signals a note which points out that, in China alone, 50,000,000 civilians may have been killed during the war. Other estimates vary widely but range from very high to incredibly high. There are no small estimates. So, as civilian deaths go, I must say that those who perished as a result of the bombs constitute a very small percentage of civilian deaths. It could have been much smaller but Japan, for whatever reason, allowed a second bomb to be dropped needlessly. All those bastards had to do was call it quits after the first one. And they certainly knew that, like the first, if a second was necessary, the target would be another Japanese city. So, Kerry and oBaMa can bow and scrape all they want to pay homage to the murderous Japanese. The time to think about the innocents is before one starts a damn war.

        1. I would guess they do. I do not see how those exterminated in German concentration camps can be regarded as non-civilian deaths.

  20. I’ve always felt the a line from the poem,
    “I Am the Infantry”, was appropriate in considering America’s use of the A-bomb against Japan.

    “I set the Rising Sun”

  22. Maybe they should take a poll at All-Points Logistics on the popularity of Green Thumb?

    Through various methods of interpretation, it could have very interesting results…

    1. I’d say do the same for A Proud Infidel®™ there as well as among The Dutch Rudder Gang, but A Proud Infidel®™ doesn’t give two hoots of a flying ratshit fuck what they think about him!

    2. You guys talk a lot of shit about Commander Phil Monkress, but he must have some great leadership skills to inspire such loyalty that a senior executive would be willing to commit career self-murder on the Internet in order to protect his lies.

      1. And be black-balled…. Phildo-style.

        Especially his nefarious senior staff. Turds. The “Less-Than Honorable COL W III, Drunken Wolf, Bird Woman, Gay Carlos, Paul-mer (of the Ballsack) and the rest. Just to name an few. And, I forgot to add, Lori Benton.

        Hang around the ATM machine (All-Points Logistics) until it is empty
        (imagine the fight for the last dollar).

        Shitbags.

        And they know……

        1. Any word on what’s up with Pslmer (of the Ballsack)… doesn’t he have an upcoming court date for stiffing a company? Must be those halpo groups in charge again, he’s just like his dear old dad – the one that stiffe investors out of money for a radio station in Longview, WA in the early 60’s

          1. July 6 08:00. Tailgate party in the courthouse parking lot begins 05:30. Activities for all of the family. People will fire up the grills, the kids can play “Dunk The Nordic With Superior Genes In Tge Porta-John”, a static display of classic Jaguar automobiles (which will be towed to the event), and at 07:45, a drunken skydiver in a purple jumpsuit, who will NOT be the late Prince, will leap from an airplane that is about to crash due to no fuel.

  23. From the Greater Boston South Shore area to you all, I wish you a pleasant and reflective memorial day weekend. If you choose to, visit the burial or memorial place for a veteran who has gone before us, or who has died keeping us free, and give him or her the thanks. I will receive thanks for service, but will direct the person to give more thanks rather to those who have given themselves for our freedom.

    1. We buried one of those this week, complete with rifle volley and bugle call. Figure we’ve done our memorializing. More than enough, actually.

    1. In other news, a ten year study conducted by engineers at MIT have proven the theory that aircraft require fuel to sustain flight. While doing this research, they also concluded that Daniel Bernath is batshit crazy.

  25. I have been reading up on John F. Kennedy, and I was surprised to read that during his innaugaration speech in 1961, he said “Ask not what your country can do for you; ask why the fuck would Daniel Bernath take flight with insufficient fuel.”

  26. I just came across another quote that for years I thought said something else. During Frznklin Roosevelt’s innauguration speech in 1933, what he actually said was “The only thing that we have to fear is Daniel Bernath crash landing into our vegetable garden.”

  27. I was stationed in Japan for 12 years and have lived here as a civilian for 5. The Japanese I know don’t really speak about the war. Most think the whole thing was a mistake. I think they are more appreciative of what we did after the war to help them rebuild and to keep them free from the jackboot of soviet communism more than anything else. Today, their armed forces are highly capable and very professional. The reason the PLAN hasn’t ventured out into the Senkaku islands is they know the JMSDF would wipe them from the sea. Two things do worry them though, one is that for some unforeseen reason our guys keep killing them and second is a retreat back to the US and abdication of our treaty obligations. Finally, I would personally like the beat the guy who just killed the lady in Okinawa with a bat for being a sociopathic asshole and for making us all attend “don’t kill or rape the host nationals” training for the umpteenth time. Unfortunately for him he will be going to the prison in Kurihama near the naval base. They don’t play there. His world will definetly be shit soon enough.

    1. You forget to mention the official Japanese line that they were the victims of WW2, a policy created before the actual surrender. We have the decrypted cables to prove it.

      That’s one reason most Asian countries (South Korea especially) still don’t trust Japan. The latter never ‘fessed up to what they did.

      1. I never got that vibe from anybody (them being victims). The people I know pretty much blamed the imperial military for the whole affair and think it was a huge waste of life and resources. My father in law and mother in law never tried to piston me and always treated me with respect. They were small kids when we were bombing the holy bejeesus out of them.

          2. Piston? I like piston! That’s a new slang word now, for pummeling someone, some enemy, right into the ground, as in ‘hammer into the ground’.

            I will make use of it. Thank you!

            1. I somehow feel honored providing you a new slang word. It was due to my stupidity, but I still feel honored. If you ever use “pistoned” in the sentence “Dullas really pistoned Bernasty” I can die a happy man.

              1. We are a members of a select club, then. I found Ex a cool name for one of her bad guys, named after the Death Watch Beetle, Xestobium rufovillosum.

                Xesto Rufo, I believe. Pretty badass, if I do say so myself.

                1. I have not forgotten Xesto Rufo, not at all. He may be the REAL Villain Behind The Curtain.

                  I only get the highlights of TV shows but this guy on ‘Flash’ who wants to burn the world? I keep wanting to ask him if he does that, where’s he going to get groceries? Who’s going to clean his house? Who’s going to change the oil in his car? All those sensible questions are never thought of by the writers of these Nasty Villain type people.

            2. Here we go: his fists, like matured hams, pistoned those hard, pounding punches into Dimaroni’s solar plexus.

    2. I read that. I think the guy was a civilian contractor. That was going on when I was there in 1970-1971. Drink a few too many (NOT an excuse) or otherwise be an asshole and feel the need to thump someone. Taxi drivers and working girls were popular targets when I was there at Hansen.

      I was genuinely impressed with the civility of the Japanese. They were a class act on Okinawa. Their mentality during the war years was very much different, but I have read this was the result of being conditioned by their leaders to do so.

      I worked 3RD Med BN shrink office at a time in 70 and we would visit the prison or jail to see the conditions or check on mental health of any U.S. military members who were ‘stationed’ in the slammer. Folks, you don’t want to go there except as a visitor. Can’t sit all day, must kneel throughout much of the day, facing forward, until instructed otherwise. Can’t speak unless spoken to. Anyone know if conditions have changed?

      Re the guy recently arrested on Okinawa, he has no idea what he is in for if he serves his time there. He also has no idea how he has damaged our relationship with Japan. The Okinawans are pretty much tired of our being there and the behaviors of morons such as this are one of the reasons.

      1. The conditions in the prison are pretty strict. I knew an LN1 that used to do health and comfort visits and he said their life pretty much sucked. They get provisions from the navy base and the US military prisoners cook their own food. They also receive medical attention from the Naval Hospital but other than that, they are treated like Japanese prisoners, which is they are treated pretty much like shit. When they come to the hospital they are transported by base MA’s and guards from the prison. They are shackled the whole time, even while they wait. They are a pretty miserable looking lot if you ever see them.

        1. I remember seeing them when I was stationed at USHN Yokosuka… they wore power blue clothing so they stuck out like a sore thumb if they tried to escape. Most would make up complaints so they could go to the hospital and talk to Americans.

          HMC Ret – “better dead than 3rd Med” – been there, done that.

          1. Senior, that was actually a phrase when I was at Hansen in 1970. One of the best experiences of my life. I really enjoyed being a Corpsman with the Marines.

          2. I saw one of them last wee when I was picking up a prescription. I am sure he was wishing he could get some McDonald’s or even some galley food. Tough shit. I am sure that asshole made me sit through the “don’t rape, rob or kill the locals” training so fuck him. Hopefully he smelled McDonald’s right as they were loading his ass in the van to go back to prison (or piston).

  28. You know what I’m against? The 31,000,000+ human beings, mostly Chinese, who were butchered by the peace loving peoples of Japan in the name of their god emperor. Wife #2 was from mainland ChIna, and once angrily asked me “Why you Mellicans no drop more bomb?”, and I had to read off whole litany of us firebombing 67 Japanese cities, and how that didn’t seem impress them all that much, oh, and how we didn’t have any more fucking atomic bombs after Nagasaki. Weighed against the carnage Japan caused, Hiroshima was a very lenient retribution . If it had been up to the Chinese, Japanese would be a language only spoken in hell.

      1. Speaking of statues, remember the one that B. Hussein 0bama had made for the MLK Monument? Yeah, MADE IN CHINA.

  29. Wonder how my Uncle Ray who was busy getting ton’s of sun and surf island hopping with The USMC would have voted

    1. I am glad we dropped the bomb on them twice. I would have kept dropping them too if I was Truman. I
      would have never wanted to invade the home islands because too many Americans would have needlessly died. I am glad your uncle never had to invade the home islands and the Japanese surrendered. My three best momentous from my military career are a flag that flew over the Arizona memorial, the USS MISSOURI (BB 63) and the and the fact I can drink beer in the CPO and O’ club at Commander Fleet Activities Yokosuka, Japan.

  30. Look up comparison photos of Hiroshima and Nagasaki right after the bombings versus today and then do the same for Detroit then and now. Hiroshima and Nagasaki are vibrant metropolises versus the wasteland that Detroitistan is today. My conclusion? Decades of demo-rat rule is far worse for a city than GETTING NUKED.

    1. API: And their excuse is that if ‘only’ they had this many more billions of dollars they could do so much better to improve the lives of their citizens. Really? After trillions poured into ‘improving’ the lives of the downtrodden their excuse is they don’t/didn’t have enough money. How about two-parent households and an incentive to get the hell off the couch and really do something? How about instilling in your children that they have not only a responsibility to themselves but also to their fellows? Yeah, I know it’s not PC to make such suggestions. Does anyone really think more trillions will improve the plight of the people and the cities? Right, me either. But, just wait, there are more surefire programs on the horizon that will make all well.

      1. This is what is coming next….

        Hillary’s rumored running mate, Housing Secretary Julian Castro, is cooking up a scheme to reallocate funding for Section 8 housing to punish suburbs for being too white and too wealthy.

        The scheme involves super-sizing vouchers to help urban poor afford higher rents in pricey areas, such as Westchester County, while assigning them government real estate agents called “mobility counselors” to secure housing in the exurbs.

        Castro plans to launch the Section 8 reboot this fall, even though a similar program tested a few years ago in Dallas has been blamed for shifting violent crime to affluent neighborhoods.

        http://nypost.com/2016/05/08/obamas-last-act-is-to-force-suburbs-to-be-less-white-and-less-wealthy/

      2. It would improve the lives of the corrupt politicians that divert that money to their friends and family. Seriously, you can go to any big city newspaper website and read an article about a politician at the local or national level being investigated for or on trial for corruption. And an overwhelming number of them have Democrat following their name. That is if it is an honest news site, otherwise, they do not mention party affiliation for the accused when it is a Democrat.

  31. I sometimes watch O’Reilly on Fox. I once thought he was OK, but am now thinking he’s too in love with himself. His recent attempt at trashing George Will reinforced my thinking in the matter. Anyway the best part of O’Reilly is Watters World. He takes to the street and questions people about military, political, economic and historical matters. The stupidity of the typical citizen, particularly those in their 20s & 30s, is overwhelming. He recently questioned several in their 20s about American wars. Folks, they are clueless. He asked people of color the reason for the Civil War, who were the combatants in that and other wars, and other questions to which folks should know the answer. Nope. Clueless. Google Watters World and the first story is the story to which I refer. I’m thinking they can name all the Kardashians but are clueless about the history once taught in school. Well, maybe it is still taught, but the kids today don’t listen.

    1. Come on, Doc. you think they’ll air rational, informed, and educated responses to a Man On The Street interview hit piece like Watters World?

      I quit watching that slanted trash long ago.

      1. I know. My post was sarc light. The taping would never see the light of day if those interviewed knew shit from shinola.

  32. Anybody know off hand which network is televising the Indy 500?

    Yeah, sure, am gonna look it up myself in a bit, but if someone else has already done so, how’s about sharing. And yes, I should remember who broadcast it last year, but my rememberer is doing other stuff today.

    1. Just as it has been for the past 50 years, ABC has the broadcast contract.

      I think the only thing that I watch on ABC is that new Tim Allen sitcom, “Last Man Standing.”

      As a youngster, I went to the Indy 500 a couple of times courtesy of the gas station manager my dad bought all his gas and oil from.

  33. This polling is the result of revisionist “historians.” There’s pressure to not only publish, but to publish something “fresh.” So, the lesser lights of the field cast about for new things to say. When the memories were more direct, they could not get away with the kinds of slander they do, today.

  34. “I guess it’s easier to claim being the victim instead of acknowledging some responsibility.”

    That reminds me of some of the posers outed on this and other sites. I didn’t do it. And I’ll never do it again. It was the PTS. My ex posted that stuff to discredit me.

    Maybe my favorite is the Wide Load camp arguing that her actions re use of her private email server was commonplace among other officials. Yeah, well, if that’s true, they are equally guilty for breaching national security.

    Yeah, I can only hope enough people come to know her for the person she really is. And that’s not very flattering. I’d pay to see her doing a perp walk.

  35. ….Breaking News….

    Commissar is protesting at Berkeley after he was informed by the BCS that he must relinquish his entire pink pantie collection. BCS troops are currently deployed at the scene.

    “This is just not fair, commies are stupid!” Lars said. Earlier today, the Bernie Commie Squad broke down the door to his rented “Tiny House” on Petrograd Street to inform Commissar that he must relinquish his entire pink pantie collection for the better good of the country. Witnesses report that as his recycled door* came crashing in, Lars squealed, “But I am THE Commissar”.

    An anonymous BCS Comrade indicated “We were aghast when we discovered the extent of Mr. Commissar’s pantie collection, wait is today Friday? What I meant to say was, We were aghast when we discovered the extent of Ms. Commissar’s pantie collection, why would anyone need over 12,000 pairs of pink panties?” Lars is known as Poodle in his inner circle.

    The decision to confiscate pink panties nationwide has come amid the recent outcry of the shortage of pink panties and in response to Targets recent unnecessary reminder that they have always allowed trans-whatever to use men’s or women’s bathrooms. A current $15/hr Target employee was quoted “We must provide adequate under garments to our trans-whatever friends when they need to take a piss in our stores”.

    Commissar recently kicked-off the “Pick Your Bathroom” campaign and had planned to give out pink pantie door prizes to his/her trans-whatever pals/BFF’s. With tear filled eyes, Lars choked out “This is a sad day in Amerika when Commie Government takes from honest pink pantie owners and hoards them and only gives them away to the top 1% of people who self-identify, my peeps are going to be devestated.”

    Although not confirmed by reliable sources, it has been rumored that the United Nations played an integral role in the recent shakedown.

    *The recycled door that was injured in this pantie shakedown will be recycled again.

    We will bring you more as this story develops….

    1. ….Breaking News….UPDATE….

      In the aftermath of the protest at Berkeley yesterday, Commissar was taken into custody by the BCS. To further hammer home the BCS stance on pink panties, Comrades utilized pink handcuffs on Lars. The additional five protestors were released as they self-identified as innocent by-standers.

      In lieu of his commie right phone call, Lars begged the BCS squad leader to post a message on TAH. BCS policy prohibits extreme requests like this, however, made an exception since he is THE Commissar. The simple message “Guys, commies are bad, bad people, but we should not fear them” is in draft status on TAH and a BCS representative will click “post comment” once Lars arrives at FGU IK-14.

      1. Commissar has arrived at FGU IK-14 safely and is currently being tucked in by none other than James Walls aka The Cocksucker (Google famous phony UH-1 pilot). May we all rest easy knowing that the pink pantie hoarder is behind bars.

  36. Anyone see the Scripps Spelling Bee last evening? Four of the final five were American born but their parents (I’m pretty sure) were born in India. That’s the way it typically ends. Two shared the championship as has been the case for three consecutive year. One was an 11 y/o. Refreshing to see stuff such as this.

  37. Weekly Friday financial forecast:

    ‘USA payroll reports come out on Friday, June 3, right in the midst of these (financial) signatures. Expect a wild reaction to that report.’

    Here’s an observation:

    ‘A Kauffman Foundation study cites a proliferation of ‘incumbent protection’ rules as a reason for a decline in small business entrepreneurship. A Brookings Institution study shows an unheralded change in American life, business closures exceeded business starts during much of President Obama’s tenure.” Holman Jenkins, Jr., “Trump for Blow-Upper in Chief,” Wall Street Journal, May 21, 2016

    And this one: “… a portion of Republicans will break from the GOP over Donald Trump; some Democrats, especially among the affluent will, in the next cycle, start to peel off from their party over its lurch leftward. They will not be at home in a party of smiley-faced socialism that threatens to become actual socialism. They will not want the American economy destroyed; they do not want their 10-year old daughters using transgendered bathrooms with men. They will be opposed to the political correctness that has swept the universities.” – Peggy Noonan, “Clinton-Sanders: Maybe That’s the Ticket,” Wall Street Journal, May 21-22, 2016.

    Now step back. Take a deep breath. We still have 2 months or so in the primaries, and you must be patient.

    My family motto is simple Latin: Vigila et Ora: Watch and Pray.

    1. At the advice of GDContractor, I happened to watch the film Inside Job a couple of days ago, and although it had something of a left-leaning slant, there were a few twisted things that became apparent no matter where on political spectrum you happen to place yourself.

      It seems to me a key falsehood is the idea that the people pulling the levers of the economy both know what they are doing, or are at least fundamentally trying to do the right thing. And I’m not talking about the greed-head trader on Wall Street flogging a toxic stock, but instead those who are supposed to be keeping an eye on the toxic trader for the rest of us. There’s a word for selling dodgy bond derivatives, and it’s no different from the word used to describe a guy holding up a convenience store. It’s called stealing.

      There also seems to be a real echo chamber effect going on in the financial markets, with the same cast of characters showing up in various roles. And when the echo chamber gets it wrong, it has even more serious consequences because there were no dissenting voices to point to alternatives. There were a couple of economists interviewed in the film, both reputable professors from Harvard and Columbia, and I swear either would be hard pressed to carry on a coherent conversation in a truck stop in Tonopah.

      People have a legitimate beef about the amount of executive compensation on Wall Street, but it actually points to a deeper problem. It’s no longer a simple matter of the money; it’s that the game is rigged in such a way that those in control don’t face win-loss consequences like the rest of us. Either competent management– or wild speculation that pays off– can be amply rewarded, but incompetent management– or wild speculation that doesn’t pay off– is also rewarded. Just not as much.

      All of which would be somewhat moot if there were any real efforts underway to change things, but there’s not. The mortgage collapse took the economy to the brink in 2008, and nothing much since then has been done to keep it from happening again.

      1. Wow. Gratified. I don’t lean left, and yeah I felt the slant too…but I could not find any factual error in the content. During 2008-09 I read everything I could about financial current events. Inside Job seemed to bring a lot of it together in one place in a cohesive presentation. The boldness that some of the lies are/were told with is astounding. Fortune favors the bold I guess, until it doesn’t.

    2. Spend a few minutes watching a video of Janet Yellen when she’s speaking to Congress about the Fed. She deliberately does not answer direct questions; she utters sentences that sound incredibly ‘aware’ but when you really listen, she is saying NOTHING. She’s worse at it than Alan Greenspan, who could rattle on for an hour and say NOTHING while he was doing it.

      I saw that film when it was first released. It was clear that everything those people do blinds them to the even remote possibility that they might be wrong. They’re no different from people who are addicted to gambling and even referred back then to some of their shenanigans as ‘sure bets’. And there is no cure for that. It has happened before and it will happen again. They are not completely insulated from it.

  38. Hey kids, in other happy Saturday morning news, the Navy’s “Fat Leonard” bribery scandal continues.

    ‘Navy commander arrested in Hampton Roads in connection with “Fat Leonard” bribery scandal’

    http://pilotonline.com/news/military/local/navy-commander-arrested-in-hampton-roads-in-connection-with-fat/article_2b415dc9-9241-5ecf-87e1-e31803610cd4.html

    ‘NORFOLK

    A Navy commander was arrested in Hampton Roads on Friday in connection with the “Fat Leonard” bribery scandal. Court records show he’s accused of tipping off the maritime executive that he was under investigation and providing him with a copy of an internal criminal report.

    Cmdr. Bobby Pitts has been indicted by a grand jury in California for conspiracy to defraud the United States and for obstruction of justice.

    “Fat Leonard” is the nickname given to Leonard Francis, the owner and chief executive of Glenn Defense Marine Asia. Francis pleaded guilty last year to presiding over a decade-long conspiracy involving “scores” of U.S. Navy officials, tens of millions of dollars in fraud and millions of dollars in bribes and gifts, according to the Justice Department.

    Four Navy officers, an enlisted sailor and a Naval Criminal Investigative Service agent have already pleaded guilty to various charges in connection with the case.

    Glenn Defense Marine Asia is a multinational corporation based in Singapore, and had provided services to the Navy for more than 25 years.

    The indictment says Pitts was the officer in charge of the Navy’s Fleet Industrial Supply Command in Singapore from 2009 to 2011, where he was responsible for overseeing the negotiation and execution of the husbanding contracts for the Navy’s 7th Fleet. Husbanding includes coordinating, scheduling and procurement of items and services needed to by ships and submarines in port.

    Pitts received briefings and internal NCIS documents about investigations into husbanding contracts, including an NCIS investigation into Glenn Defense Marine Asia.

    According to the indictment, Pitts provided Francis in December 2009 with a hard copy of an NCIS report that described the allegations the federal agency was investigating, detailed investigative steps NCIS had taken and identified witnesses NCIS had interviewed.

    In November 2010, Pitts forwarded an internal Navy email to the company that discussed the Navy’s intention to contact Thai officials to determine if Francis’ company had billed the Navy for force protection services the Royal Thai Navy had provided for free, the indictment says.

    The indictment says Pitts did this in exchange for “meals, entertainment expenses, and, on at least one occasion, the services of a prostitute.”

    A public telephone listing for Pitts could not be found and he did not immediately respond to a message on his LinkedIn page. It wasn’t clear whether Pitts had an attorney.

    According to the Navy Office of Information, Pitts is a commander assigned to Navy Warfare Development Command in Norfolk. He arrived in July 2013, after two years in Washington and two years in Singapore.

    Pitts’ LinkedIn page, however, says he left the Navy in January 2015, lives in Chesapeake and works for a Beach-based IT company.

    Pitts made his initial appearance at the federal courthouse Friday in Norfolk, where he was released on a $5,000 bond. He is scheduled to appear at a hearing in San Diego on June 10.’

  39. Since this is Memorial Day weekend, I’m going to leave this here. It’s not nostalgia, just a checkback on a few things.

    I made a nice chopped salad for supper last night.

    Here’s how that works: Do a coarse, chunky chop or dice of several vegetables. I used radishes, green onions, zucchini, bell pepper (use the colorful peppers), cucumber, celery, etc. I sometimes use yellow summer squash, too, for the color. Dice some good smoked ham or leftover roast beef or chicken. Toss that into a good mix. Season with garlic salt (not too much) and Mrs. Dash (I use the garlic-herb version), then add red wine vinegar or fresh lemon juice, and extra-virgin olive oil and give it another toss. Cover it and let it chill for about an hour.

    I prefer using the zukes over cukes because cucumbers tend to wilt, but if I make it in small batches, they hold up okay. I sometimes use cherry tomatoes and red onions, too. I don’t use carrots unless they’re shredded. It’s hearty and filling and on a hot day, it really hits the spot. Add some good crusty bread and butter, and a glass of red wine, and it’s a good meal. Just basic food groups, covers everything, including vitamins and minerals.

    Butter is better for you than margarine. Finally, someone figured out that those artificial foods like margarine (loaded with trans fatty amino acids which clog your arteries) and high fructose corn syrup (check labels – it’s everywhere) are the worst possible things you can put into your stomach. They’re slowly falling out of favor now.

    Real sugar is just dried cane juice. It’s back on the store shelves now. Table salt is mostly mined in Louisiana, Detroit, Virginia and western New York.

    Welch’s makes ‘natural’ fruit spreads (fruit, sugar and pectin) with NO HFC, and Smucker’s makes ‘natural’ peanut butter (peanuts, salt). They cost the same as the other stuff, but they’re made the way things were made before all these harmful additives were added to your food. I am stocking my shelves with stuff like that. It’s how we made grape jam when I was 6, for Pete’s sake. And it never got moldy if it sat on the kitchen table, despite having no preservatives.

    I started using butter when I left home in 1967. My mother insisted on using margarine because it was what you got during WWII, and she was sure it was better for you than butter. Wrong.

    Remember that fad called the Mediterranean diet? It was supposed to be the ‘fix’ for what ails you? Well, people who live in the Med area grew up with it and are descended from people who lived on it for several thousand years. The ‘Med’ diet is in their genes. That’s the ‘fix’. My father had heart disease, which he got from HIS father. He died at 85 of a stroke and heart attack, while he was in the hospital for a new pacemaker. My mother lived to 94. Her mother lived into her 90s as did her sister, and my other grandmother and her three sisters all lived into their 90s. I expect to outlive all of them. It’s your genes. What you eat should support your genes.

    Oh, that thing the medical industry has had about salt – too much is bad, right? Well, now they’re finding that if you don’t get enough salt, you’re more likely to have a heart attack.

    I think it’s time to ignore the medical industry’s advice because they’re beginning to sound like a bunch of quacks and snake oil salesmen. Use some common sense, and if someone gives you a prescription, ALWAYS ask about the side effects before you ever swallow one single pill.

    That’s my story, and I’m sticking to it.

    2. There ya go again – applying common sense and thousands of years of human history to good use in your own life!

      It never made sense to me that consuming unpronounceable chemicals could be healthy. Probably do little damage in the short term, but potentially dangerous long term.

      Oh, well.

  40. Attention all hands on Team TAH: “Flying Leathernecks” starring John Wayne and Robert Ryan will air today (Saturday) from 1115-1300 EDT on the Turner Classic Movies channel.

    This information was brought to you by Team TAH MWR.

  41. An A-Bomb covered in bacon grease dropped on the cease pool called the middle east.

    One can only dream.

  42. And here we have yet another bad personnel policy decision by SECDEF. This also sets a very bad precedence.

    ‘Defense secretary: Navy’s Reynolds, Swain can play in NFL’

    http://pilotonline.com/sports/football/professional/defense-secretary-navy-s-reynolds-swain-can-play-in-nfl/article_af1ff900-6cde-5c40-8315-d63fe437d5fb.html

    ‘ANNAPOLIS, MD.

    Defense Secretary Ashton Carter announced Friday that former Navy quarterback Keenan Reynolds and fullback Chris Swain can defer their military service to play in the NFL.

    […]’.

    These two young men attended the U.S. Naval Academy and received a top notch education at taxpayer expense in exchange for a commitment to serve their country following graduation as officers in either the U.S. Navy or U.S. Marine Corps. However, SECDEF is now allowing them to “defer their service” (whatever that means) and go straight into playing football for big money in the NFL, while their peers head out into the Fleet/Fleet Marine Force and likely into harm’s way while serving as Ensigns or 2ndLts.

    Completely unacceptable.

    The reason that one attends the Naval Academy is so that one can achieve the goal of becoming an officer in the Naval Service (which includes the Marine Corps). That’s the sole reason for attending USNA. Playing sports at USNA is tangential to that goal.

    If one wants to use college as a means to get into the NFL, then go to school somewhere else.

    My recommendation would be that the Navy require these two to go on active duty along with their peers, and then they can go to the NFL after they work off their initial service obligation. That’s what Roger Staubach did.

    If the Navy isn’t willing to do that, then deny these two their commissions, and then require them both to pay back their Naval Academy tuitions in full. They should be able to handle that on NFL pay.

  45. Since this is the open thread, here’s the question for the day. Whatever possesses a Soldier (NCO with a formerly good record) to go full retard, and then double down on teh stoopid when he’s called out on it? Perhaps it’s a rhetorical question–not sure we’ll ever find out the answer.

    1. Someone who is in severe need of some wall-to-wall counseling at the hands of some Vets!

  48. Norwich University is going to let a female cadet were her trash bag on her head. She still planes to sue the Citadel for hurting her feeling’s.

  49. Vermont Thunder tomorrow I am looking forward to good weather and a good ride.
    CVMA, Vets helping vets.

  50. Unless you’re a die-hard basketball fan, you probably never heard of one Bryce Desean-Jones. He was shot to death in Dallas by someone after he kicked in that someone’s apartment door and then tried to break into that someone’s bedroom. It is believed that the NBA player thought it was baby momma’s crib. Whoops. Wrong door! Anyhow, the NBA commissioner called the death “tragic” and released a statement saying that “Bryce inspired countless people with his hard work and perseverance on his journey to the NBA, and he had a bright future in our league.” Um. Not so much. Bryce started out as a highly recruited USC player but ran into trouble quickly. He broke a teammate’s nose and had a confrontation with a another student in his dorm. So, he was told to transfer or be dismissed. He transferred to UNLV. The geographic cure didn’t work. He turned on UNLV teammates, too, and was suspended for behavioral issues. “It was decided that he will not be on our team next year” was how his UNLV coach put it. What I want to know is who was inspired by this guy, if the NBA commissioner is to be believed. And what were they inspired to do?

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